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In a message dated 6/12/01 5:41:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

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> Mine is 3.5 and seems totally incapable of removing a single

> article of clothing, much less cleaning himself up. He can't even remove

> his pants if I pull them down to his ankles. I've tried having him assist

> me, but I literally have to grab onto his hands and force him to hold onto

> the pants to remove them with me. Is it really worth it?

>

Is he in ABA? If so, why not ask them to include a self-help section? I did,

and in the last few months my DD has learned how to put on a shirt, (almost)

and take off her shirt and pants. She can also kind of pull up her pants,

but still needs a

bit of help on that one.

She was in the same position when she was 3.5 - she had no clue about dressing

and undressing.

Margaret

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My son does the same thing! I don't think it has anything to do with

control for him. I just think he doesn't want to waste any more of his time

and he wants to flush the toilet (his favorite part). :-) I always tell him

to go all of his potty and try to fill up the toilet -- sometimes I don't

think he even realizes that he hasn't emptied his bladder.

Potty training - OT

> Hi

>

> We just recently started training our 4yo DD. The problem is she holds

her

> pee

> until she's off the potty. She can hold it longer than I can! Yesterday,

> she started

> doing just a little bit in the potty so she could get up, then doing the

rest

> of it

> in her pants! Am I right in thinking that this is a control thing with

her

> right now?

>

> What can we do about this?

>

> Margaret

>

>

>

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My son does the same thing! I don't think it has anything to do with

control for him. I just think he doesn't want to waste any more of his time

and he wants to flush the toilet (his favorite part). :-) I always tell him

to go all of his potty and try to fill up the toilet -- sometimes I don't

think he even realizes that he hasn't emptied his bladder.

Potty training - OT

> Hi

>

> We just recently started training our 4yo DD. The problem is she holds

her

> pee

> until she's off the potty. She can hold it longer than I can! Yesterday,

> she started

> doing just a little bit in the potty so she could get up, then doing the

rest

> of it

> in her pants! Am I right in thinking that this is a control thing with

her

> right now?

>

> What can we do about this?

>

> Margaret

>

>

>

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We had great success with giving a reward (jungle animals in a tube) every

time our son went potty. In addition, we remained unexcited when he went in

his pants. Our therapists told us to be indifferent. We kept a basket by

the basement, where he would have to place his soiled undies, and clothes if

he messed. He was required to remove his clothes alone, and use wet wipes

to clean himself off. Believe me, he started going in the potty within two

weeks. He was very stubborn. He too could hold his urine for a whole day!

That's ok for boys, but not good for girls.

a

> Hi

>

> We just recently started training our 4yo DD. The problem is she holds

her

> pee

> until she's off the potty. She can hold it longer than I can! Yesterday,

> she started

> doing just a little bit in the potty so she could get up, then doing the

rest

> of it

> in her pants! Am I right in thinking that this is a control thing with

her

> right now?

>

> What can we do about this?

>

> Margaret

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oh , I can so relate to you! My daughter is the same way! Her ABA

tutors are planning on potty training her in about 2 months (she is 3 1/2

yrs). Keep me posted! H

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> In a message dated 6/12/01 5:41:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> jljnov24@k... writes:

>

>

> > Mine is 3.5 and seems totally incapable of removing a single

> > article of clothing, much less cleaning himself up

> Is he in ABA? If so, why not ask them to include a self-help

section? I did,

> and in the last few months my DD has learned how to put on a shirt,

(almost)

> and take off her shirt and pants. She can also kind of pull up her

pants,

> but still needs a

> bit of help on that one.

Margaret,

You took the words right out of my mouth! When Brett started ABA in

Sept, he couldn't even pull his pants down, remove his socks, etc.

Now, he can undress completely and dress himself with a little help.

We just started slow, one thing at a time. Now he amazes me: When

we come in the house, I say " take off your shoes " and he sits right

down and does it! This from a child who couldn't comprehend the

word " mommy " in Sept!

Along those same lines, I have to brag today. We finally got serious

about potty training on Sunday, and are having GREAT success!!

(Brett was 3 in Feb) Our ABA coordinator gave us a strong push at our

team meeting, so we have hit it full force. Here's our program:

1) First thing in the morning, and at the start of each ABA session,

sit Brett on the toilet. Read books, or run ABA programs with him

sitting there. Between books and programs, give him LOTS of fluids.

He can't get off the potty until he goes.

2) When he goes PARTY TIME!! Hugs, tickles, applause, a cookie

(after washing his hands of course), songs about being a " big boy " ,

etc.

3) Put Brett in cotton training pants. Set the timer for 10

minutes. After 10 minutes, ask " Are you dry? " Brett has to check

(and answer). If the answer is " yes " , he gets a piece of popcorn.

4) Repeat above step twice. Every 3rd time (every 30 mins), take

Brett to the potty to try to go again. If he has success, see step

#2. Otherwise, repeat step 3 & 4.

Like I said, we started this Sunday night. At first, it took him 1

1/2 hours on the toilet to actually go. The second time, it took an

hour. Today, he went within five minutes of sitting on the potty

every time (if he had to go). We had several accidents, but he was

dry from 3:15 this afternoon until bed time.

From here, once we stop having accidents, we'll lengthen the time

between " dry " checks to every 15 minutes, then every 30 with potty

visits once an hour. From there, he should be able to tell me when

he needs to go (he's semi-verbal), or at least be able to go on

demand before we leave the house.

Sorry this is so long- I just am THRILLED with our progress the last

couple of days and had to share the method. I think our ABA

coordinator is a genius!! (although I'm sure she didn't come up with

this on her own...)

Looking forward to the end of 12.5 years of diapers :-) ,

Sue

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