Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Lillie at 17 should have the " white fillings " since technology makes them available now. There are some cases where a white filling does not work, and silver fillings are the only solution unless a crown or " cap " is put on the tooth. Then your looking at $750.00 compared to maybe $158.00. I would not be worried about " mercury poison " from dental fillings, although you will hear from other's a big scare about it. If they prescribed a fluoride rinse, then Lillie needs to pay more attention to her oral hygiene and eating habits. She must brush and floss daily. Before bed time is extremely important, that she brush and floss then. The jury is still out on fluoride in city water, but the fluoride rinse will be helpful in stopping any " watches " that she may still have (almost a cavity, but not yet in the dentin, only in the enamel of the tooth) The fluoride rinse will be used after brushing and flossing at night, rinsed then spit out, not swallowed. Pop for Grave's disease and dental decay is a big no. The slogan " sip all day, get decay " is for real. Those that just chug down the pop, won't experience the decay problem, but if you just keep a can on your desk and keep sipping all day, you are continually bathing your teeth in it's acid, does not matter if it's sugar free or not. Now on novocaine, ok to use, ask for carbocaine without epinephrine if she is still having heart palpation's. As for the wisdom teeth. Ask if it is really important that she get them out this year, or will a year or two down the road be ok when she is more closer to being well from Grave's. If I remember, from previous postings, she has not had Grave's that long. Anesthesia is never a fun thing when your body is healthy, and why put her through that if the procedure can wait. Reason's it can wait are, 1, the wisdom teeth are present on the x-ray, but are impacted and can't erupt, but not doing any damage just sitting there for several years yet. 2, some doc's just think all wisdom teeth need to come out, well some people have room for them. They need to come out now if they are partially erupted and the gum tissue around them gets infected and swells, called periocoronitis. Or if they are impacted in such a way that they are pressing on the tooth in front of it and causing the other tooth to erode or dissolve (there's another word, but I can't think of it). I hope this information is helpful. Jen M CDA RDA Dental questions > 8/22/03 > Hello, > I have a few dental questions, hoping someone will be able to help. > Lillie (17 yrs old) just came back from the dentist where we learned > she has 4 cavities that need filling. I noticed some posts here about > mercury fillings vs " white " fillings, but didn't really get the gist > of it. > 1) Is there a reason to avoid mercury fillings? > 2) The dentist prescribed a fluoride rinse. Is there a reason to avoid > that? > 3) Lillie must have her wisdom teeth out (ouch!). Does anyone have > advise about anesthesia for this procedure? Are there certain types of > anesthesia that should be avoided? What about novocaine? > > Any help is greatly appreciated! > > > ********************* > ********************* > *************** > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Jen, Wow, what a terrific, thorough answer. This group is an amazing place. What do the letters CDA RDA stand for? I will certainly ask the dentist if her wisdom teeth can wait. They are partially emerged already. If it does turn out to be truly necessary, do you have advise about anesthesia for that? I will ask about carbocaine without epinephrine for the filling procedures. She's not having heart palpations currently. In fact she is having some hypO symptoms, and her dosgae was recently lowered. She was diagnosed in April and started treatment in early May. We think she had Graves for a few years previously. If there are no palpitations, then should I assume that novocaine is OK? Sorry if I seem to be repeating myself -- just want to be sure I understand. It's been hard to get her to take proper care of her teeth. We're hoping that the experience of getting 4 cavities filled will cause her to change her ways! I'm glad to hear you think the fluoride rinse will be OK. We live in a rural area, and use our own well water. Thank you!!!! > Lillie at 17 should have the " white fillings " since technology makes them > available now. There are some cases where a white filling does not work, > and silver fillings are the only solution unless a crown or " cap " is put on > the tooth. Then your looking at $750.00 compared to maybe $158.00. I would > not be worried about " mercury poison " from dental fillings, although you > will hear from other's a big scare about it. If they prescribed a fluoride > rinse, then Lillie needs to pay more attention to her oral hygiene and > eating habits. She must brush and floss daily. Before bed time is > extremely important, that she brush and floss then. The jury is still out > on fluoride in city water, but the fluoride rinse will be helpful in > stopping any " watches " that she may still have (almost a cavity, but not yet > in the dentin, only in the enamel of the tooth) The fluoride rinse will be > used after brushing and flossing at night, rinsed then spit out, not > swallowed. Pop for Grave's disease and dental decay is a big no. The > slogan " sip all day, get decay " is for real. Those that just chug down the > pop, won't experience the decay problem, but if you just keep a can on your > desk and keep sipping all day, you are continually bathing your teeth in > it's acid, does not matter if it's sugar free or not. > > Now on novocaine, ok to use, ask for carbocaine without epinephrine if she > is still having heart palpation's. As for the wisdom teeth. Ask if it is > really important that she get them out this year, or will a year or two down > the road be ok when she is more closer to being well from Grave's. If I > remember, from previous postings, she has not had Grave's that long. > Anesthesia is never a fun thing when your body is healthy, and why put her > through that if the procedure can wait. Reason's it can wait are, 1, the > wisdom teeth are present on the x-ray, but are impacted and can't erupt, but > not doing any damage just sitting there for several years yet. 2, some doc's > just think all wisdom teeth need to come out, well some people have room for > them. > They need to come out now if they are partially erupted and the gum tissue > around them gets infected and swells, called periocoronitis. Or if they are > impacted in such a way that they are pressing on the tooth in front of it > and causing the other tooth to erode or dissolve (there's another word, but > I can't think of it). > > I hope this information is helpful. > > Jen M CDA RDA > Dental questions > > > > 8/22/03 > > Hello, > > I have a few dental questions, hoping someone will be able to help. > > Lillie (17 yrs old) just came back from the dentist where we learned > > she has 4 cavities that need filling. I noticed some posts here about > > mercury fillings vs " white " fillings, but didn't really get the gist > > of it. > > 1) Is there a reason to avoid mercury fillings? > > 2) The dentist prescribed a fluoride rinse. Is there a reason to avoid > > that? > > 3) Lillie must have her wisdom teeth out (ouch!). Does anyone have > > advise about anesthesia for this procedure? Are there certain types of > > anesthesia that should be avoided? What about novocaine? > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated! > > > > > > ********************* > > ********************* > > *************** > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > > ---------------------------------------- > > DISCLAIMER > > > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement > of > > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Dear Pam and Jen, Thank you for your replies! I spoke with the dentist yesterday after reading Jen's advise. He agreed that it would be fine to wait for a while for the wisdom teeth to come out, though he said it will need to be done eventually, or they will crowd her front teeth as they come in. Lillie is VERY happy to have a reprieve. I feel much better, too, and very glad I wrote to the group about this. Pam, sometimes your descriptions of Amy's experience are just like ours. I feel more sure than ever now, that there are particular ways that a teen reacts to this Gravesian metabolic interference (for lack of a better way to put it!). Slowing down is good advise. We're learning the hard way of the necessity of doing this. Also it's hard with a 17 yr old -- to be at a stage where you want to start letting out the rope, so to peak, and give more freedom, to be in a situation where we must hold on tighter for a little longer. Thanks again! ******* > > > Lillie at 17 should have the " white fillings " since technology makes > > them > > > available now. There are some cases where a white filling does not > > work, > > > and silver fillings are the only solution unless a crown or " cap " is > > put on > > > the tooth. Then your looking at $750.00 compared to maybe $158.00. > > I would > > > not be worried about " mercury poison " from dental fillings, although > > you > > > will hear from other's a big scare about it. If they prescribed a > > fluoride > > > rinse, then Lillie needs to pay more attention to her oral hygiene > > and > > > eating habits. She must brush and floss daily. Before bed time is > > > extremely important, that she brush and floss then. The jury is > > still out > > > on fluoride in city water, but the fluoride rinse will be helpful in > > > stopping any " watches " that she may still have (almost a cavity, but > > not yet > > > in the dentin, only in the enamel of the tooth) The fluoride rinse > > will be > > > used after brushing and flossing at night, rinsed then spit out, not > > > swallowed. Pop for Grave's disease and dental decay is a big no. > > The > > > slogan " sip all day, get decay " is for real. Those that just chug > > down the > > > pop, won't experience the decay problem, but if you just keep a can > > on your > > > desk and keep sipping all day, you are continually bathing your > > teeth in > > > it's acid, does not matter if it's sugar free or not. > > > > > > Now on novocaine, ok to use, ask for carbocaine without epinephrine > > if she > > > is still having heart palpation's. As for the wisdom teeth. Ask if > > it is > > > really important that she get them out this year, or will a year or > > two down > > > the road be ok when she is more closer to being well from Grave's. > > If I > > > remember, from previous postings, she has not had Grave's that long. > > > Anesthesia is never a fun thing when your body is healthy, and why > > put her > > > through that if the procedure can wait. Reason's it can wait are, > > 1, the > > > wisdom teeth are present on the x-ray, but are impacted and can't > > erupt, but > > > not doing any damage just sitting there for several years yet. 2, > > some doc's > > > just think all wisdom teeth need to come out, well some people have > > room for > > > them. > > > They need to come out now if they are partially erupted and the gum > > tissue > > > around them gets infected and swells, called periocoronitis. Or if > > they are > > > impacted in such a way that they are pressing on the tooth in front > > of it > > > and causing the other tooth to erode or dissolve (there's another > > word, but > > > I can't think of it). > > > > > > I hope this information is helpful. > > > > > > Jen M CDA RDA > > > Dental questions > > > > > > > > > > 8/22/03 > > > > Hello, > > > > I have a few dental questions, hoping someone will be able to > > help. > > > > Lillie (17 yrs old) just came back from the dentist where we > > learned > > > > she has 4 cavities that need filling. I noticed some posts here > > about > > > > mercury fillings vs " white " fillings, but didn't really get the > > gist > > > > of it. > > > > 1) Is there a reason to avoid mercury fillings? > > > > 2) The dentist prescribed a fluoride rinse. Is there a reason to > > avoid > > > > that? > > > > 3) Lillie must have her wisdom teeth out (ouch!). Does anyone have > > > > advise about anesthesia for this procedure? Are there certain > > types of > > > > anesthesia that should be avoided? What about novocaine? > > > > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************* > > > > ********************* > > > > *************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and > > is not > > > intended to replace expert medical care. > > > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new > > treatments. > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > DISCLAIMER > > > > > > > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the > > endorsement > > > of > > > > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to > > emails. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 Hi Fay, Lillie has not had orthodonture, and is blessed with straight teeth (UNlike every other member of her family!). The dentist is concerned about crowding, and it would sure be a shame if those nice straight teeth went crooked, so we will watch carefully and wait only as long as is prudent. We do want her to be more stable before assaulting her with oral surgery. Her levels seem to be fluctuating, she is having some hypO symptoms now, and we have an endo appt on Wednesday. She's been complaining of a lack of appetite, trouble sleeping, a bit down in the dumps, etc. Interestingly, last night we were out late, and when we got home she was hungry for the first time in a week and had a big midnight snack. Turned out she'd missed her evening dose of Methimazole. So I'm thinking she might need a further reduction in her dosage? Thanks for listening, I know there are people out there with way more serious issues, and my heart goes out to you. ********** > He agreed that it would be fine to wait for a > > while for the wisdom teeth to come out, though he said it will need > > to > > be done eventually, or they will crowd her front teeth as they come > > in. > > Did Lillie have orthodontia? If yes, ask your orthodontist what s/he > thinks. I was told that if my daughter wouldn't have her wisdom teeth out > when she did that it would have basically undone her orthodontia. Give > Lillie a brief reprieve - she needs it - but do keep on top of it. > > Take care, Fay > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 Thanks, Jen, I'll take your advise as I'm very apprehensive about the extractions at this time for Lillie. Lillie's own instinct is that her wisdom teeth are OK as they are, which is probably both valid and also wishful thinking. In any case we're willing to wait it out. Thanks for your attention to this matter -- it is truly appreciated. - ***** > It is a myth that wisdom teeth erupting will make all the other teeth > crooked and un do orthodontia. Please don't have Lillie get her wisdom > teeth removed at the time period for this reason. > > Jen M > Re: Re: Dental questions > > > > He agreed that it would be fine to wait for a > > > while for the wisdom teeth to come out, though he said it will need > > > to > > > be done eventually, or they will crowd her front teeth as they come > > > in. > > > > Did Lillie have orthodontia? If yes, ask your orthodontist what s/he > > thinks. I was told that if my daughter wouldn't have her wisdom teeth out > > when she did that it would have basically undone her orthodontia. Give > > Lillie a brief reprieve - she needs it - but do keep on top of it. > > > > Take care, Fay > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > > ---------------------------------------- > > DISCLAIMER > > > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement > of > > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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