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Thanks for the further info Pam. :-) I'll look and see what selenium levels

there are in food. Not sure if I'm getting oodles of it or not. The multi I'm

taking has 70 mcg...which doesn't sound like a lot, but what do I know? :-)

Have yourself a wonderful day!

In honor of all the new info I've gotten this last week, I decided to create

a new signature line for myself....at least till I absorb all this new

knowledge.

So much to learn, so little brain!

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Pam L,

Thanks for your posts. Especially glad to know that the ATD will lower TPO

antibodies!

As for the selenium question, maybe it depends on the person and their

requirements, deficiencies, etc. Basically, I come to the conclusion that

one should strive for balance, and use common sense. Moderation, not

extremes. Do what works.

I found some interesting bits online about this issue. Selenium seems to

work in a counterintuitive way...sort of like iodine in that too little

selenium, there can be too little T3, but if there is too much, conversion

is also impeded. From Elaine's article:

" And we all have different nutritional requirements. Without adequate, but

not excess, selenium, we can't convert T4 into T3. The recommended dose is

200-400 mcg/daily. Amounts greater than 800 mcg, however, impede

conversion. " http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/graves_disease/68414

One wouldn't want an excess, as it can be toxic. But not sure if having an

adequate amount is bad for all hypers...maybe just those with excess T3? (I

am speaking of those who are being treated.) Like me, right now, my FT3 is

at low normal. So maybe eating a brazil nut would be worth it, if it calms

down the TPO! I found this article to be compelling:

http://www.amazinggracewholefoods.com/newsletter/newsletters/0403/selenium.htm

Sorry to go on about this, but I'm trying to get a handle on this.

One interesting but complicated page I found was the following (can't make

much sense of it, but seems important, especially for those who truly have

a lack of iodine; selenium can make a hypO person more hypO by speeding up

conversion and lead to eventual T4 depletion?):

http://www.healthy.net/library/journals/ortho/issue10.2/corr10-2.htm

So I guess balance, and what works for you, is key.

At 01:30 PM 7/17/2003, you wrote:

>Selenium is for HYPO patients that have trouble converting their T4 into T3.

>It helps in the conversion process...thus makes them less hypo feeling..

>including their heart rate.

>

>To take selenium when hyper could cause problems...and the heart is more

>than likely the first place you would notice. Taking this would possibly

>cause problems....and is certainly very counter productive...in that most

>hyper patients have T3 issues in the beginning and that is why they went to

>the doctor in the first place....it is the high T3 that we FEEL.

>

>You can do a search on selenium in foods and see that it is very common .

>If, later on, you still have T3 too high ( and most patients I have seen

>with this problem are on Tap ) ...some have found avoiding the high selenium

>foods to be a solution.

>

>One reason PTU and Propranolol are commonly prescribed is because they help

>prevent the conversion of T4 into the more potent T3.

>

>-Pam L -

>

>3 1/2 years Graves', TED, and PTU. Remission due to SLOW reduction of PTU

>(despite an incompetent endo ! ), improved lifestyle, excellent nutrition,

>herbs, and looking at the big picture.

>Pills alone only help the symptoms. We must help our bodies to heal.

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