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Hi,

I read your not below and I have to say the same sort of things

drive me wild also.

Recently we were in Wash DC. People were very rude. I saw

several push an older woman who walked with a cane. They

were pushing her aside so they could get to their subway car.

The trains run every 8 minutes so why couldn't some one beside

me and my wife stop and help this person.

I was lectered at but some snot nosed little 18 year hold about

which side of the escalator to stand on. Adults and children

frequently cut in front of us in some lines. The list goes on.

We are trying hard to teach our son manners. Given our recent

experience, I am appalled at the lack of manners I have seen

lately. It drives me nuts, nuts nuts ( as my sone would say.)

Ken M

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> I'm sorry but I must bring this up as it applies to all children

and

> adults too. We just got back from a week at Disney World and it

was

> the worst. My feet and legs are black and blue from being run

ito by

> strollers and did one person say excuse me or sorry? NO!

children

> running everywhere screaming, cutting in line. It's just that I'm

> trying to teach my daughter this little thing called manners and

it

> doesn't seem like anyone else is. There was no one particular

group

> just people in general. What happened to manners and being

polite?

> Are they out of style now? I honestly had one gentleman

rubbing my

> back in line and telling me to relax! Now if I knew that

gentleman

> that would have been great but I didn't! It's everywhere these

days.

> I get the feeling Dinsey World was just a bigger place for all

this

> to happen. Sorry for my ranting but it drove me nuts.

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I have to agree. I also try to teach my kids manners, but it is so

hard because they (the 4 year old, more than ), notice that

others aren't saying please and thank you, and excuse nme. And, but

my friend calls me a poop head.....the list is endless. I feel like

I am fighting a losing battle sometimes. ANd the grocery

store......oh my gosh....don't get me started! Why do people always

think they are the only ones shopping and either park their cart

right in the middle of the isle, or take the ENTIRE isle between the

wife, husband, and three kids, and shop like they have all the time

in the world, while others are just trying to get around! Ooooh! :o)

Okay, like I said, I agree that this world is going downhill when it

comes to manners!

Jodi R.

> > I'm sorry but I must bring this up as it applies to all children

> and

> > adults too. We just got back from a week at Disney World and it

> was

> > the worst. My feet and legs are black and blue from being run

> ito by

> > strollers and did one person say excuse me or sorry? NO!

> children

> > running everywhere screaming, cutting in line. It's just that I'm

> > trying to teach my daughter this little thing called manners and

> it

> > doesn't seem like anyone else is. There was no one particular

> group

> > just people in general. What happened to manners and being

> polite?

> > Are they out of style now? I honestly had one gentleman

> rubbing my

> > back in line and telling me to relax! Now if I knew that

> gentleman

> > that would have been great but I didn't! It's everywhere these

> days.

> > I get the feeling Dinsey World was just a bigger place for all

> this

> > to happen. Sorry for my ranting but it drove me nuts.

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I totally agree with all of you!! Politeness has gone out of style in the

world today!!

I am a big fanatic about kids using manners!! And if you want your children

to be polite, then you need to set the example!!

My children have always been expected to use " please " , " thank you " , " excuse

me " , etc.... If they are permitted to call an adult by their first name,

then they have been taught to add a Miss or Mr in front of the name as a

form of respect. I was actually questioned about my youngest child's good

manners when she began school. They seemed to think that I had to be abusing

the child to get her to use her manners so consistently!!

The one that drives me totally crazy is the parents that see their children

doing something wrong, and say " Now honey...... you know that you shouldn't

be doing that. " Why can't they get off their butts, and make their child

stop??? They are bigger, after all! If the child KNOWS that they shouldn't

be doing whatever it is that they are doing, then why are the parents

sitting back and whining at them???? Get up, and take care of the problem!!!

Enough venting for now, huh? LOL

Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 30 months, 21.4#, 30.6 " , G-Tube)

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I just want to comment on this. We spent all day at Universal studios

yesterday, and had a great time. It was a beautiful day, maybe 10 minutes of sun

the

entire time. it rained a short while, but the weather was perfect. My guess

is that the weather has a lot to do with cranky and rude people. Although

universal is not as big as DW,it was still packed with people and we never got

hit

by one stroller, nor did we have one child or adult cutting in front of us. I

honestly would not want to spend a week there. Its just WAY to much walking.

Mind you we live in Florida and go to 2 themes parks every year and we have

come across what you have experienced in milder way. We have had many more good

days then bad days. It does get you angry when your being hit by strollers,

and the kids should not have been allowed to skip.

I had many episode where I had to stop Lindsey from leaning on people, and

during the line she would sometimes go in front of people, but she would go on

the rides with us of course. I had so many people smile at her, it warmed my

heart really. She meant no harm...I'm sorry you had a bad experience. Hopefully

you made it known when someone ran into you, it does seem to help put people

in their place. My husband is very verbal, works to our advantage at times,

but also embarrassing loll!

We did have one person in one of the 3-D shows, where Lindsey screamed a lot!

A lady kept looking (nasty) back at her. Sadly I felt the need to keep

covering her mouth. She was enjoying the show and really getting into it. But

it

didn't look 'right.' Lindsey has sensory integration dysfuntion,but I didn't

appreciate the stares.,but that's life wherever you go. Especially with special

needs child that looks so normal. sorry for the ramble, but I'm just saying

for the most part we have had nothing but good experience. Disney world is the

worst place in the manners department though.

Jennie

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Pat, et al.,

Whewww that was a sizzler, but I totally agree with you. At stores

people always comment on how polite my children are because they

consistently say please, thank you, excuse me, etc. And I'm wondering

why they are so shocked. Why aren't all parents teaching this

behavior?????

On the topic of Disney World, I'm anticipating and dreading our first

visit to the " Magic Kingdom " . I'm sure it will be hard no matter what,

but hopefully my parents will join the trip and we'll at least have a

1:1 adult to child ratio. I would like to forego strollers altogether if

possible!

, 's mom

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I totally agree with all of you!! Politeness has gone out of style in

the

world today!!

I am a big fanatic about kids using manners!! And if you want your

children

to be polite, then you need to set the example!!

My children have always been expected to use " please " , " thank you " ,

" excuse

me " , etc.... If they are permitted to call an adult by their first name,

then they have been taught to add a Miss or Mr in front of the name as a

form of respect. I was actually questioned about my youngest child's

good

manners when she began school. They seemed to think that I had to be

abusing

the child to get her to use her manners so consistently!!

The one that drives me totally crazy is the parents that see their

children

doing something wrong, and say " Now honey...... you know that you

shouldn't

be doing that. " Why can't they get off their butts, and make their child

stop??? They are bigger, after all! If the child KNOWS that they

shouldn't

be doing whatever it is that they are doing, then why are the parents

sitting back and whining at them???? Get up, and take care of the

problem!!!

Enough venting for now, huh? LOL

Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 30 months, 21.4#, 30.6 " , G-Tube)

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Kate-

You went to disneyworld for a week and you didn't let me know? I

live TEN MILES from WDW. Harrumph! <G>

Anyway...as for impolite people. My #1 thing to say is that, as bad

as people are at home, they are TEN TIMES WORSE when they're on

vacation. People truly seem to leave their brains at home and

forego ALL forms of politeness, in order to make sure they get every

bang out of their buck, at any expense. Who cares if you've been

standing on the curb for 2 hours to see Spectromagic, if Joe Blow

and his wife and kids stroll in 5 minutes before the show...THEY

want to see the parade so THEY will cram in front of you. And then

the Cast Members tell them they can't stand there...I love it <wink>.

30, 40, 50+ years ago, people were taught to be polite and to think

about the needs and feelings of other people. Now it's very much

a " me, me, me " mindset. I'M not that way...YOU'RE not that

way...most of the people here are not that way...but I sure think

there are many more who DON'T think about that stuff, than those of

us who do. And it sucks.

-Sharon-

Just an RSS kid who grew up

38y, 4'6.75 "

Hovering around 95#, with continued water weight and need for

chocolate and salty snacks, but I went to the Dr. today so we're

working on figuring out why. And no, I'm not pregnant <G>.

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Do you have any pictures to share ? :) I think I came across wrong. I was

just sad you had such a bad experience. Glad your Daughter loved Mickey mouse!

Jennie

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Even though ne and I promised never to bring it up again for

public knowledge, I will share a story with you that is relevant to

your experience in a way.

On the way home from Niagara Falls, (ne, her son , Max

and I drove up there), something happened and I lost control of the

car. (I still don't remember everything.) We were on I-90 near

Buffalo, NY. We spun around and around a few times while I battled

to regain control of the car. Cars drove around us, thank goodness,

and it was quite apparent I was in BIG trouble. The skid marks in

the road alone were amazing. Would you believe that NO ONE stopped

to see if we were okay? (We were. There was just a little bit of

denting on the front passenger side wheel covering - a miracle in

itself!!!) We were all a bit shaken and the three passengers had

sore arms from being bumped into the car doors, so we sat on the

side of the road for a few minutes until I was ready to drive to the

service area a mile away. None of us could believe that after

seeing my car spin out of control, no one stopped to check on us.

Imagine if we had crashed!

I do not understand people these days. But I do think that it is

contagious. If one person starts doing something and " gets away

with it, " then another will do it and it keeps on going. That is

the animal instinct in us called " keeping with the pack. " Look how

even you began to be a little impolite on the last day. That's how

riots get so large and out of control. We don't even realize it is

happening to us.

Jodi Z.

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