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>Hi -

Thanks for your info. That's a better explanation

than I got from the eye doctor. LOL.

I guess I will go ahead and start the drops. The

stuff he recommended for nighttime was Refresh PM,

which I think is an ointment. I haven't heard anyone

mention that particular treatment, only the regular

Refresh drops, mostly for daytime. Maybe I should try

the Refresh for daytime and the Genteal for nighttime,

as long as we know it won't adversely affect TED. I

find that I just don't trust anything these days.

Barb

Hi Barb,

> I'm not an expert on dry eye (though I do have a

> mild case), but from what

> I understand, you can be tearing because of dry eye.

> That is because the

> tear film, which has 3 different layers, is

> insufficient (that film coats

> the eye). So it is good to lubricate with drops as

> needed. I like Genteal

> drops (some people like Genteal gel, but I prefer

> the drops). I find it

> helpful to use the drops before bed.

>

>

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> removed]

>

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You're welcome, Barb.

Refresh is all right. Just don't use anything like medicated Visine. You

really can use any brand you like, as different people have different

preferences. So it's " whatever works for you. " I find that Genteal is a

good brand, and it was recommended to me by the lasik docs. If you are

unsure about a product, you can ask the pharmacist or your doctor to clear

it with them before you use it (to make sure it is not something that has

potentially harmful chemicals, such as for redness removal).

At 08:41 AM 6/26/2003 -0700, you wrote:

> >Hi -

>

>Thanks for your info. That's a better explanation

>than I got from the eye doctor. LOL.

>

>I guess I will go ahead and start the drops. The

>stuff he recommended for nighttime was Refresh PM,

>which I think is an ointment. I haven't heard anyone

>mention that particular treatment, only the regular

>Refresh drops, mostly for daytime. Maybe I should try

>the Refresh for daytime and the Genteal for nighttime,

>as long as we know it won't adversely affect TED. I

>find that I just don't trust anything these days.

>

>Barb

>

>Hi Barb,

> > I'm not an expert on dry eye (though I do have a

> > mild case), but from what

> > I understand, you can be tearing because of dry eye.

> > That is because the

> > tear film, which has 3 different layers, is

> > insufficient (that film coats

> > the eye). So it is good to lubricate with drops as

> > needed. I like Genteal

> > drops (some people like Genteal gel, but I prefer

> > the drops). I find it

> > helpful to use the drops before bed.

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Barb,

I would just like to emphasize that before trying another brand, you should

clear it with the pharmacist or your doctor, just to be safe. (I think I'm

telling you the right things, but like I said, I'm just going on my own

experience, and wouldn't want to steer you wrong!) Nothing wrong with

Refresh, but I just preferred the other brand to it, and some people do

well with the gel at night, as it is for severe dry eye. I prefer the

Genteal drops, but that is what feels best for me at this time.

Good luck, and hope you find the relief you're seeking.

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In a message dated 6/26/2003 10:47:32 AM Central Daylight Time,

orka412@... writes:

> The

> stuff he recommended for nighttime was Refresh PM, which I think is an

> ointment. I haven't heard anyone mention that particular treatment, only the

> regular Refresh drops, mostly for daytime. Maybe I should try the Refresh for

> daytime and the Genteal for nighttime, as long as we know it won't adversely

> affect TED. I find that I just don't trust anything these days.

>

I have used the Refresh PM, and Hypotears, and Genteal. Generally I don't

find a lot of difference except it's important to use the gel at night and drops

during the day. ly, I buy whatever is on sale and find they are all

pretty good.

Terri

Graves disease 1979; treated with RAI; exothalmia 1982, treated with IV

steroids; since then on one or another form of replacement hormone. New flare

up

of TED with severe double vision, swelling in intraocular muscles and

inflammation in August of 2002. Currently hypoactive. Treated TED with

prednisone.

It worked while on prednisone, but TED came back worse after. Undergoing

Orbital radiation June-July 2003.

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