Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Joan, The interpretation of diet challenges is difficult. There could be no reaction - for a number of reasons - or a delayed reaction - or a reaction that you don't happen to notice. The GFCFkids diet survey at www.gfcfdiet.com has a special section about infringements: You can look up the reports there, and see roughly how many that report (notice) what kinds of reaction after a diet infringement, how fast it does happen, and how severe the reaction is. I think you'll have to look for a long time before you find a better list. There are several individual types of reasons why you might not notice any reaction at all after a single infringements. Key words are " healed gut " (could be temporary) " re-established natural enzyme system " (could be temporary), " bell shaped dose response curve " (problems masked if you don't hit the " right " dose " habituation " (initial reaction might be opposite of long term reaction) " developmental " disorder (reaction consists of factors that affect development, and does not necessarily show up as symptoms of skewed development: That takes more time) If microbiological factors have also played a part in the puzzle, it might take weeks or months for fungi or bacteriae to re-establish themselves when conditions become " favourable " . Beware: It seems to be quite common for people to see no reaction for up to 6 weeks. When the reaction eventually comes, it happens so slowly and gradually that it's difficult to realise what's happening. Several people have made the kind of experiment that you're considering. It is most important, if you go off the diet, to watch and describe as objectively and fully as you can, all the parameters that are likely to be affected in the short to medium run by a diet challenge. When you make a challenge, you should be fairly decisive: Use a large quantity over a short period (1-2 meals) and then go back on the diet again, watching closely for any of the changes that might indicate a sensitivity. If you see nothing for a week, then make a bigger, longer challenge, and wait for ten days. This waiting period is important, because continued intake of offending protein might mask the most noticeable of the effects of the first dose. WRITE DOWN what you see! Share it through the GFCFkids diet survey! (www.gfcfdiet.com). You might also find it worth while to read the infringement section of www.advimoss.no/GFCF_results . Yours sincerely n Klaveness -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Joan Daigle Til: gfcfdiet <gfcfdiet > Kopi: gfcfkids <gfcfkids > Dato: 30. mai 2001 15:02 Emne: GFCF Diet..Time to call it quits? >Hi all, >I'd like to know what signs to look for so I'll know if we can quit this >diet. >My 2 sons, 12 yr old with AS and 10 yr old formerly diagnosed ADD, have been >GFCF for 6-8 months now. My 10 year old still had the same 'bad days' i.e. >'spacing out', off task, not paying attention, etc, until last Monday when >I figured out that eggs do it to him! I literally have a much different >child since last Tuesday when he became egg free! It has been incredible to >witnesses this change inn him. Even more awesome is the thought that >something so very simple has been plaguing him and holding him down for his >entire 10 years! >I have notes from teachers to back this up, and also outsiders called me to >comment on his being aware of what's going on and seeming more intelligent. >The words ' a different kid' were mentioned. We haven't seen any response >from my other son either way. > >Anyway, I am ready to have a food sensitivity panel run on each boy, and I >read that we could possibly get false negatives on foods that haven't been >ingested in a long time. So I decided to do a multiple food elimination >diet and when we got to step 2, adding foods back into diet, to do wheat and >milk challenges. I haven't seen any reactions. So, I'd like to know >where you think I should go from here. We added Lactaid milk 3 days ago and >wheat in buns 2 days ago. > >Thanks so much! >Joan in Houma, La >Have a wonderful day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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