Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Dear Friends, I saw the recent thread on this subject and need your expert opinions as well. ALyssa will be 3 in November and therefore discharged from Infant Toddler Services (Early Intervention) that day. She is currently receiving feeding type therapies from an OT. She was receiving help with gross motor skills, but she has caught up to her peers in that area. When we were in Chicago, Dr. H reduced Alyssa's tube feedings to 15hrs/day. We have been doing 12 overnight and then 3 while she's napping as that is the most convenient. After meeting with her OT, she was very excited to move toward more oral eating. (that is our ultimate goal afterall) She reccommended making a schedule in which her pump time and food times mimic normal eating habits. ie 3meals, 3 snacks. This greatly increases her waking pump time and would be very time consuming (especially with a new baby due in 4 weeks). In addition, I'm not sure whether or not it is a practical approach for our kids taking into account her serious delayed emptying time. On the other hand, I don't know if she can handle a bolus feeding for the same reason. I have no idea what to do about this and am waiting for a response from Dr. H. That said, I had a meeting yesterday with Infant Toddler and the school district to discuss the transition from IT in November. As Alyssa only has nutritional/g-tube needs they indicated she probably would not qualify for special ed preschool which is the only type offered by our district. My concern is that a private/community preschool may not want to take her because of her tube. In addition, the rules and mandates are not governed the same since they are not a part of the school district. SOO, now that you have all that info, I have some questions. Does her diagnosis and the fact that it is a recognized disablitiy require the school district to accomodate her even if it is just because of a tube and she has no other special needs? If so, how do I prove it? If not, is there anyone else who had a similiar problem and did you find a quality preschool you could afford and then how did you go about continueing the single therapy you needed? Did you go to a hospital, did some other program fill the gap? What do I do between now and kindergarten?? If you got this far THANKS and any and all advice is not only welcomed by appreciated and needed greatly!! Dayna, Mom to ALyssa, 34monhts, 25lbs 35inc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Hi Dayna, I read your message over several times. I think I understand. However, you might want to ask an educational consultant (advocate) in your area. You may have to pay a fee for their expert answer. Based on what you said ( again I'm no expert), I would guess that she would not qualify, especially if she doesn't need PT, OT, Speech or other therapy. If she just needs feeding help, this may not be considered something that would interferre with her learning. You can request ( in writing) that the school perform an evaluation. If they refuse to do this or find she doesn't qualify, then you can appeal through whatever process is setup. Since she needs to be tube fed during the day, the school nurse will have to be involved but this still may not qualify her for special ed. Please keep in mind that in these hard financial times, schools are looking for any reason they can to exclude children from Special Ed. They will deny it of course but I have seen it all too often. Since Jodi Z. and Deb B. have a lot of experience with special ed, they can offer better advice than I can. Hope this helps. Ken M > Dear Friends, > > I saw the recent thread on this subject and need your expert opinions as well. ALyssa will be 3 in November and therefore discharged from Infant Toddler Services (Early Intervention) that day. She is currently receiving feeding type therapies from an OT. She was receiving help with gross motor skills, but she has caught up to her peers in that area. > > When we were in Chicago, Dr. H reduced Alyssa's tube feedings to 15hrs/day. We have been doing 12 overnight and then 3 while she's napping as that is the most convenient. After meeting with her OT, she was very excited to move toward more oral eating. (that is our ultimate goal afterall) She reccommended making a schedule in which her pump time and food times mimic normal eating habits. ie 3meals, 3 snacks. This greatly increases her waking pump time and would be very time consuming (especially with a new baby due in 4 weeks). In addition, I'm not sure whether or not it is a practical approach for our kids taking into account her serious delayed emptying time. On the other hand, I don't know if she can handle a bolus feeding for the same reason. I have no idea what to do about this and am waiting for a response from Dr. H. > > That said, I had a meeting yesterday with Infant Toddler and the school district to discuss the transition from IT in November. As Alyssa only has nutritional/g-tube needs they indicated she probably would not qualify for special ed preschool which is the only type offered by our district. My concern is that a private/community preschool may not want to take her because of her tube. In addition, the rules and mandates are not governed the same since they are not a part of the school district. > > SOO, now that you have all that info, I have some questions. Does her diagnosis and the fact that it is a recognized disablitiy require the school district to accomodate her even if it is just because of a tube and she has no other special needs? If so, how do I prove it? If not, is there anyone else who had a similiar problem and did you find a quality preschool you could afford and then how did you go about continueing the single therapy you needed? Did you go to a hospital, did some other program fill the gap? What do I do between now and kindergarten?? > > If you got this far THANKS and any and all advice is not only welcomed by appreciated and needed greatly!! > > Dayna, Mom to ALyssa, 34monhts, 25lbs 35inc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 hi dayna!! christopher is in the disabled preschool at our elementry school based on the fact he is RSS and has technically a disability. he receives ssi as well. we are in nj so i dont know how it would work where you live. good luck!! jodie c. -- In RSS-Support , Dayna <daycarney@e...> wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I saw the recent thread on this subject and need your expert opinions as well. ALyssa will be 3 in November and therefore discharged from Infant Toddler Services (Early Intervention) that day. She is currently receiving feeding type therapies from an OT. She was receiving help with gross motor skills, but she has caught up to her peers in that area. > > When we were in Chicago, Dr. H reduced Alyssa's tube feedings to 15hrs/day. We have been doing 12 overnight and then 3 while she's napping as that is the most convenient. After meeting with her OT, she was very excited to move toward more oral eating. (that is our ultimate goal afterall) She reccommended making a schedule in which her pump time and food times mimic normal eating habits. ie 3meals, 3 snacks. This greatly increases her waking pump time and would be very time consuming (especially with a new baby due in 4 weeks). In addition, I'm not sure whether or not it is a practical approach for our kids taking into account her serious delayed emptying time. On the other hand, I don't know if she can handle a bolus feeding for the same reason. I have no idea what to do about this and am waiting for a response from Dr. H. > > That said, I had a meeting yesterday with Infant Toddler and the school district to discuss the transition from IT in November. As Alyssa only has nutritional/g-tube needs they indicated she probably would not qualify for special ed preschool which is the only type offered by our district. My concern is that a private/community preschool may not want to take her because of her tube. In addition, the rules and mandates are not governed the same since they are not a part of the school district. > > SOO, now that you have all that info, I have some questions. Does her diagnosis and the fact that it is a recognized disablitiy require the school district to accomodate her even if it is just because of a tube and she has no other special needs? If so, how do I prove it? If not, is there anyone else who had a similiar problem and did you find a quality preschool you could afford and then how did you go about continueing the single therapy you needed? Did you go to a hospital, did some other program fill the gap? What do I do between now and kindergarten?? > > If you got this far THANKS and any and all advice is not only welcomed by appreciated and needed greatly!! > > Dayna, Mom to ALyssa, 34monhts, 25lbs 35inc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Jodie, Does he receive any therapy services, or " special ed " services? How did you determine whether or not he qualified? THANKS for your response. Dayna Re: Transition from Early Invervention to School District LONG hi dayna!! christopher is in the disabled preschool at our elementry school based on the fact he is RSS and has technically a disability. he receives ssi as well. we are in nj so i dont know how it would work where you live. good luck!! jodie c. -- In RSS-Support , Dayna <daycarney@e...> wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I saw the recent thread on this subject and need your expert opinions as well. ALyssa will be 3 in November and therefore discharged from Infant Toddler Services (Early Intervention) that day. She is currently receiving feeding type therapies from an OT. She was receiving help with gross motor skills, but she has caught up to her peers in that area. > > When we were in Chicago, Dr. H reduced Alyssa's tube feedings to 15hrs/day. We have been doing 12 overnight and then 3 while she's napping as that is the most convenient. After meeting with her OT, she was very excited to move toward more oral eating. (that is our ultimate goal afterall) She reccommended making a schedule in which her pump time and food times mimic normal eating habits. ie 3meals, 3 snacks. This greatly increases her waking pump time and would be very time consuming (especially with a new baby due in 4 weeks). In addition, I'm not sure whether or not it is a practical approach for our kids taking into account her serious delayed emptying time. On the other hand, I don't know if she can handle a bolus feeding for the same reason. I have no idea what to do about this and am waiting for a response from Dr. H. > > That said, I had a meeting yesterday with Infant Toddler and the school district to discuss the transition from IT in November. As Alyssa only has nutritional/g-tube needs they indicated she probably would not qualify for special ed preschool which is the only type offered by our district. My concern is that a private/community preschool may not want to take her because of her tube. In addition, the rules and mandates are not governed the same since they are not a part of the school district. > > SOO, now that you have all that info, I have some questions. Does her diagnosis and the fact that it is a recognized disablitiy require the school district to accomodate her even if it is just because of a tube and she has no other special needs? If so, how do I prove it? If not, is there anyone else who had a similiar problem and did you find a quality preschool you could afford and then how did you go about continueing the single therapy you needed? Did you go to a hospital, did some other program fill the gap? What do I do between now and kindergarten?? > > If you got this far THANKS and any and all advice is not only welcomed by appreciated and needed greatly!! > > Dayna, Mom to ALyssa, 34monhts, 25lbs 35inc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 hi dayna!! christopher had been evaulated at the elementry school. they found he only needed some slight OT. he scored mostly at the 36month range but had a couple of scores that were between 24-36m on the hawaii evaulation test. because of this they decided that they would give him the OT and thus put him in the disabled preschool class, plus he is possible ADHD. i would take alyssa and have her evauluated at the school to see if there is something that they might be able to offer as far as the OT, PT, speech ect. jodi z would probably know more since she works with this everyday as a teacher. christopher is classified at school as disabled though as well due to his RSS so that also made him eligible. good luck!!! and let me know how you make out!! jodie c. > > Dear Friends, > > > > I saw the recent thread on this subject and need your expert > opinions as well. ALyssa will be 3 in November and therefore > discharged from Infant Toddler Services (Early Intervention) that > day. She is currently receiving feeding type therapies from an OT. > She was receiving help with gross motor skills, but she has caught > up to her peers in that area. > > > > When we were in Chicago, Dr. H reduced Alyssa's tube feedings to > 15hrs/day. We have been doing 12 overnight and then 3 while she's > napping as that is the most convenient. After meeting with her OT, > she was very excited to move toward more oral eating. (that is our > ultimate goal afterall) She reccommended making a schedule in which > her pump time and food times mimic normal eating habits. ie 3meals, > 3 snacks. This greatly increases her waking pump time and would be > very time consuming (especially with a new baby due in 4 weeks). In > addition, I'm not sure whether or not it is a practical approach for > our kids taking into account her serious delayed emptying time. On > the other hand, I don't know if she can handle a bolus feeding for > the same reason. I have no idea what to do about this and am > waiting for a response from Dr. H. > > > > That said, I had a meeting yesterday with Infant Toddler and the > school district to discuss the transition from IT in November. As > Alyssa only has nutritional/g-tube needs they indicated she probably > would not qualify for special ed preschool which is the only type > offered by our district. My concern is that a private/community > preschool may not want to take her because of her tube. In > addition, the rules and mandates are not governed the same since > they are not a part of the school district. > > > > SOO, now that you have all that info, I have some questions. Does > her diagnosis and the fact that it is a recognized disablitiy > require the school district to accomodate her even if it is just > because of a tube and she has no other special needs? If so, how do > I prove it? If not, is there anyone else who had a similiar problem > and did you find a quality preschool you could afford and then how > did you go about continueing the single therapy you needed? Did you > go to a hospital, did some other program fill the gap? What do I > do between now and kindergarten?? > > > > If you got this far THANKS and any and all advice is not only > welcomed by appreciated and needed greatly!! > > > > Dayna, Mom to ALyssa, 34monhts, 25lbs 35inc > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Dayna, I just wanted to say that our district does accept that Jonah's eating issues are cause for an oral motor therapist. (He does not have a feeding tube though)He is not in a special school, but started preschool/daycare 3 days a week and will receive EI until December and then start receiving services at home or at school through the school district. He turned 3 yesterday so he can remain on EI until January since he was evaluated before his second birthday. A small preschool at someone home seems to be ideal for special situations. I hope this helps a little. Re: Transition from Early Invervention to School District LONG > Hi Dayna, > > I read your message over several times. I think I understand. > However, you might want to ask an educational consultant (advocate) > in your area. You may have to pay a fee for their expert answer. > > Based on what you said ( again I'm no expert), I would guess that she > would not qualify, especially if she doesn't need PT, OT, Speech or > other therapy. If she just needs feeding help, this may not be > considered something that would interferre with her learning. You can > request ( in writing) that the school perform an evaluation. If they > refuse to do this or find she doesn't qualify, then you can appeal > through whatever process is setup. > > Since she needs to be tube fed during the day, the school nurse will > have to be involved but this still may not qualify her for special > ed. > > Please keep in mind that in these hard financial times, schools are > looking for any reason they can to exclude children from Special Ed. > They will deny it of course but I have seen it all too often. > > > Since Jodi Z. and Deb B. have a lot of experience with special ed, > they can offer better advice than I can. > > Hope this helps. > > Ken M > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I saw the recent thread on this subject and need your expert > opinions as well. ALyssa will be 3 in November and therefore > discharged from Infant Toddler Services (Early Intervention) that > day. She is currently receiving feeding type therapies from an OT. > She was receiving help with gross motor skills, but she has caught up > to her peers in that area. > > > > When we were in Chicago, Dr. H reduced Alyssa's tube feedings to > 15hrs/day. We have been doing 12 overnight and then 3 while she's > napping as that is the most convenient. After meeting with her OT, > she was very excited to move toward more oral eating. (that is our > ultimate goal afterall) She reccommended making a schedule in which > her pump time and food times mimic normal eating habits. ie 3meals, > 3 snacks. This greatly increases her waking pump time and would be > very time consuming (especially with a new baby due in 4 weeks). In > addition, I'm not sure whether or not it is a practical approach for > our kids taking into account her serious delayed emptying time. On > the other hand, I don't know if she can handle a bolus feeding for > the same reason. I have no idea what to do about this and am waiting > for a response from Dr. H. > > > > That said, I had a meeting yesterday with Infant Toddler and the > school district to discuss the transition from IT in November. As > Alyssa only has nutritional/g-tube needs they indicated she probably > would not qualify for special ed preschool which is the only type > offered by our district. My concern is that a private/community > preschool may not want to take her because of her tube. In addition, > the rules and mandates are not governed the same since they are not a > part of the school district. > > > > SOO, now that you have all that info, I have some questions. Does > her diagnosis and the fact that it is a recognized disablitiy require > the school district to accomodate her even if it is just because of a > tube and she has no other special needs? If so, how do I prove it? > If not, is there anyone else who had a similiar problem and did you > find a quality preschool you could afford and then how did you go > about continueing the single therapy you needed? Did you go to a > hospital, did some other program fill the gap? What do I do between > now and kindergarten?? > > > > If you got this far THANKS and any and all advice is not only > welcomed by appreciated and needed greatly!! > > > > Dayna, Mom to ALyssa, 34monhts, 25lbs 35inc > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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