Guest guest Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 I respect your choice. I do believe everyone has the right make his/her own choice on which method is best for the treatment. I do believe in science and data from larger scale of clinical study. But I do not believe in exageration, distortion, misleading information. There are risks invovled in every treatment for Graves as you can see from most of the clinical studies in past 20-30 years. ATD can cause serious side effect even death in 0.2-0.8% per the patients. RAI can lead majority of the patients to hypo, or worsen eye disease in some of the case (still a contraversy)and some other side effect afterwards(some of them are still in dispute). Surgery can cause some of the side effects as seen in RAI but less severe eye problem. However, surgery will cause some serious damage in 2-3% patients. So after all, they are all not all that safe. I am pro-conservative treatment for any of the non-life threatening disease. Radical treatment should come next if other motheds have been explored and exhausted. I understand some of the docs are not treating right. But exageration of RAI's side effects seems way too much from some of the comments I saw in the past. So I decided to to some search to give a bit more true info of the vies from current medical field to the people here. Do not take me wrong. If you can, keep your thyroid, that is the best way. If you can not win the battle with Graves on ATD, there are other choices, which might not be as bad as most of people think, just be open-minded. Science will eventually tell us what is the best way, it might not be any of the treatments we are using. Best wishes. Liang > Hi Liang, > > I can't speak for the rest of the group but I'm only anti-RAI in a few > ways. I'm anti-RAI for myself. The treatment is one I am not interested > in personally as I personally don't see that it addresses what is wrong > with me. My immune system is attacking my otherwise healthy thyroid > gland. Killing my thyroid gland will not fix the problem of my immune > disorder. If a cure is ever found for this immune disorder I will still > have a thyroid gland that will be functional. I'm also not a fan of > radiation. I get as few x-rays in my life as possible as I am not > comfortable with radiation exposure. > > Another way I'm also anti-RAI when I can plainly see that a patient is > being rushed into a decision. Too many newly diagnosed patients are > being told that RAI is the best treatment. Being confused, sick and > scared they listen to their doctors and have the procedure. Then they > discover after that there were other options open to them. > > Lastly, I'm anti-RAI when a doctor has been mismanaging their patient's > treatment with ATDs. Many doctors will send their patients on a > hyper-hypo rollercoaster with ATDs. They'll prescribe a high dose of > ATDS and send the patient hypo, then they reduce or stop the ATDs and > send the patient hyper. There will be too few labs taken, too few visits > to the doctor and when labs are run the doctor tends to rely on the TSH > number instead of the actual thyroid hormone levels. This cycle repeats > itself many times and then the doctor will tell the patient that they > are not responding well to ATDs and tell them RAI is their best course > of treatment. The patient, who at this point has been through too many > ups and downs with this disease consents to the treatment. > > I am all for RAI when a patient who has been properly monitored on ATDs > does not respond well to the medications. I'm for RAI when someone shows > a real adverse reaction to both PTU and Tapazole. Some people show a > mild, and often temporary reaction, of hives to one ATD or the other. > I've known a couple of people who were told that due to this reaction > they couldn't take ANY ATDs and that there was no other choice but RAI. > I'm not for RAI in that instance, but when someone shows a real reaction > to both ATDs then RAI is an excellent course of action. > > I am open minded to RAI for treatment of Graves when proper ATD usage > has no effect and the patient is not comfortable with surgery. My own > brother-in-law has Graves disease and I have watched him be mismanaged > by his doctor. Funny thing is his doctor is supposed to be one of the > best in the area. My brother-in-law has only now started to do some > research and take charge of his care. He had been over-medicated on ATDs > and made hypo and when he went hypo the doctor told him to stop his ATDs > all together. Within a few weeks he was hyper again and was put on a > large dose of ATDs. They've been doing this to him for a while. When he > went hypo last time he asked the doctor if he should slowly reduce his > ATDs and see what happens in a few weeks. His doctor said that wasn't > what he should do, he should stop the ATDs immediately and then come > back for lab work in 8 weeks. The doctor did tell him he wouldn't keep > having this problem if he'd just agree and for RAI treatment. > > in MA USA > Graves since March 1997 > Currently on 0 PTU tablets per day > Was euthyroid from 2000-2002 > Will not undergo RAI > > a very useful link to another support group > > http://groups.msn.com/GRAVESDISEASEANDRAI > > it is another support under MSN. they tell all kind of stories about > their disease and treatment. A lot of them there are very open > minded. it could be helpful to listen to other story. > > Terry mentioned to me about sharing experience. So now you can go > them to listen to their stories. hope it helps. 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