Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Yes, the foreskin is very similar to an eyelid. “The foreskin protects the glans throughout life.” American Academy of Pediatrics The foreskin comprises as much as half or more of the penile skin system and has three known functions: protective, sensory and sexual. During infancy, the foreskin is attached to the glans and protects it from urine, feces and abrasion from diapers. Throughout life, the foreskin keeps the glans soft and moist and protects it from trauma and injury. Without this protection, the glans becomes dry, calloused and desensitized from exposure and chafing. Specialized nerve endings in the foreskin enhance sexual pleasure. The foreskin may have functions not yet recognized or understood. As far as adult males who don't wash their forskins they should be dealt with the same as any other adult male with hygene problems and educated. I've known men who remained intact their entire lives and lived into their late 80's. They washed regularly and were very happy to be intact. The only problems they had was when well meaning but poorly educated nurses tried to scrub the insided of their forskins with soap and didn't place it back over the penis (the nurse thought she'd let the exposed penis get some air...) What resulted was extremely painful and unnecessary if the nurse had been properly informed on proper penis care it never would have happened. The only time the men I knew had problems was when they were in hospitals or nursing homes and could not do their own bathing. I strongly feel parents need to be accuratly informed about circumcision before they decide. There are so many views on the subject and their is tons of misinformation out there. Be careful of who your source is when reading about circumcision. Look for reputable sources like the American Academy of Pediatrics or The American Medical Association. I strongly encourage you to go to the website for the group listed below and read the information about infant circumcision go to the Information Series Link and choose #3. The other info. mentioned here can also be found there. http://www.nocirc.org/ National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers: Educating a New Generation For the Well-Being of All Children No national or international medical association recommends circumcision. The American Academy of Pediatrics states: " Existing scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn circumcision; however, these data are not sufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision. " The American Cancer Society, states in a letter to the AAP: " We would like to discourage the American Academy of Pediatrics from promoting routine circumcision as a preventive measure for penile or cervical cancer... Perpetuating the mistaken belief that circumcision prevents cancer is inappropriate. " The American Medical Association has joined all national medical organizations in NOT recomending routine circumcision. The Australasian Association of Paediatric Surgeons states, " It is considered to be inappropriate and unnecessary as a routine to remove the prepuce, based on the current evidence available. " The Australian College of Paediatrics, citing the Australasian Association of Paediatric Surgeons, states: " Routine male circumcision should not be performed prior to 6 months of age. " In addition, it considers that, " neonatal male circumcision has no medical indication. It is a traumatic procedure, performed without anaesthesia to remove a normal functional and protective prepuce. " Summary of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists: Circumcision Policy 2001 The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists supports the current position of the American Academy of Pediatrics that finds the existing evidence insufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision. [Policy statement removed at the request of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. ] The British Medical Association Guidelines advise " The BMA opposes unnecessarily invasive procedures being used where alternative, less invasive techniques, are equally efficient and available. " The Canadian Paediatric Society recommends: " Circumcision of newborns should not be routinely performed. " “Routine circumcision is not a medical issue or a social issue. It is a sexual issue and a human rights issue.” Frederick Hodges “Many parents today realize that if they had been given accurate information about circumcision, they would never have let anyone circumcise their baby. I am one of those parents, and that is why I do the work I do and why I have written this pamphlet.” Marilyn Fayre Milos, R.N. 1/04 Most parents who see what is done to a baby when he is circumcised and how he reacts decide against circumcision and let their baby keep his foreskin intact. Parents have new concerns More and more parents – including Jewish and Muslim parents – are questioning the wisdom of subjecting their baby to the pain and risks of circumcision and its life-long consequences. More and more parents are wondering if they have the right to consent to the irreversible amputation of a healthy, normal, sensitive, functional part of their baby’s penis – an amputation that experts regard not just as unnecessary, but as contraindicated. More and more parents are becoming truly informed and, as a result, more and more parents are deciding against circumcision and are keeping their baby boys intact. www.nocirc.org “The best reason to let a baby keep his foreskin intact is that it's almost a certainty he will be glad you did.” A. kson NOCIRC Information Series: Does circumcision have risks? Yes. Like any other surgery, circumcision has risks. They include: Excessive bleeding, Infection, Complications from anesthetics, Surgical mistakes, including loss of glans and loss of entire penis, Death Many circumcised males suffer from: Extensive scarring, Skin tags and skin bridges, Tearing and bleeding at the scar, Curvature of the penis, Tight, painful erections, Difficulty ejaculating, Impotence, Feelings of having been violated, Feelings of having been mutilated, All circumcised males lose some or most of the sensitivity in their glans and all of the sensitivity in their foreskin. Circumcision may have risks and complications not yet recognized or understood. Connie, Honestly I'd really like to see the research behind the your comments. As for the other posts about the pain of being circed later in life, how do we know it doesn't hurt a baby as much as an adult? Talk to nurses and those who witness the procedure. Look at all of the studies now out that prove again and again that infants feel pain. Does anyone honestly think tylenol will touch the pain of having a major part of your coochie cut off? Sorry to be so graffic and long but think about it... Message: 23 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:20:30 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Subject: Re: Circumcision The skin is not like an eyelid and there are many many cases where men do not wash under-- and much sexually transmitted diseases and bacteria grow under it -- There is not much pain and some tylenol is given if the baby is fussy. Also I have seen many adults who have the phimosis where the foreskin becomes tight and they have to have it done as an adult. that is painful. Connie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 As has been mentioned recently by this list OWNER and moderator, the debates should be factual and informative which most of the info posted has been. THAT being said....some of the message, appears to be trying to make the person on the other side of the issue feel guilty for circ'ing or not circ'ing. This is not why we are here, and won't be tolerated. Again, refer to the list rules that you were sent upon subscribing to this list. Again, I re-iterate, watch what you post. We are all adults with obvious computer research at our fingertips or we wouldn't be posting to an online *support* group. We make our own choices and shouldn't be made to feel that we have made wrong choices. Some people here breastfeed, others do not. Some circ, some don't. Some take calcium carbonate, some citrate. Some take the high glucose test for diabetes even though it has been researched and the research says it can make us sick and is invalid for post WLS patients. We aren't here to berate those who choose to or not to, but rather to post why we do or do not do something (ie: our OWN experiences, our OWN reasons) not to blast others for their choice. Watch the *tone* of your messages. Sheila Moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 -------Original Message------- From: OSSG-pregnant Date: 08/18/04 07:10:51 Connie, Honestly I'd really like to see the research behind the your comments. As for the other posts about the pain of being circed later in life, how do we know it doesn't hurt a baby as much as an adult? Talk to nurses and those who witness the procedure. Look at all of the studies now out that prove again and again that infants feel pain. Does anyone honestly think tylenol will touch the pain of having a major part of your coochie cut off? Sorry to be so graffic and long but think about it... I am a nurse who has witnessed the procedure....................... ....... They give oral analgesics to men and ice packs to men who have vasectomies ???????? There are women and men post surgieres who take varied levels of pain relief. Is It effective -- some babies are no more or less fussy than the girls in the nursery.?????????? Your points are well taken but you are also very vocal on the subject. I have also seen difficulties as I posted to you. Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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