Nee Help with OAT Test results

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I have an appointment in couple of weeks with our DAN but wanted to know if any

of you can help me better understand this. Thanks.

Yeast and Fungal Markers

5-Hydroxymethyl-2-furoic 28 H 35

Arabinose 50 H 364

Malabsorption and Bacterial Markers

4-Hydroxyhippuric 30 H 47

Succinic 23 H 30

HPHPA (Clostridia Marker) 220 H 354

Oxalate Metabolites

Oxalic 35 - 185 H 263

Glycolytic Cycle Metabolites

Pyruvic 0.32 - 8.8 H 15

Krebs Cycle Metabolites

Succinic 23 H 30

Neurotransmitter Metabolites

Kynurenic 4.2 H 4.9

Quinolinc / 5-HIAA Ratio 2.5 H 9.0

Ketone and Fatty Acid Oxidation

3-Hydroxybutyric 4.8 H 6.5

4-Hydroxybutyric 4.7 H 12

Sebacic 0.61 H 1.1

Indicators of Detoxification

Pyroglutamic13 - 62 H 67

Orotic 0.04 - 0.80 H 1.2

Very Low Vit C and Low B6

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I have an appointment in couple of weeks with our DAN but wanted to know if any of you can help me better understand this. Thanks.

Yeast and Fungal Markers

5-Hydroxymethyl-2-furoic 28 H 35

Arabinose 50 H 364

Malabsorption and Bacterial Markers

4-Hydroxyhippuric 30 H 47

Succinic 23 H 30

HPHPA (Clostridia Marker) 220 H 354

Oxalate Metabolites

Oxalic 35 - 185 H 263

Glycolytic Cycle Metabolites

Pyruvic 0.32 - 8.8 H 15

Krebs Cycle Metabolites

Succinic 23 H 30

Neurotransmitter Metabolites

Kynurenic 4.2 H 4.9

Quinolinc / 5-HIAA Ratio 2.5 H 9.0

Ketone and Fatty Acid Oxidation

3-Hydroxybutyric 4.8 H 6.5

4-Hydroxybutyric 4.7 H 12

Sebacic 0.61 H 1.1

Indicators of Detoxification

Pyroglutamic13 - 62 H 67

Orotic 0.04 - 0.80 H 1.2

Very Low Vit C and Low B6

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Check out the trying Low oxalates board at trying_low_oxalates Look for Owens when you get there. Sent from my iPhone

I have an appointment in couple of weeks with our DAN but wanted to know if any of you can help me better understand this. Thanks.

Yeast and Fungal Markers

5-Hydroxymethyl-2-furoic 28 H 35

Arabinose 50 H 364

Malabsorption and Bacterial Markers

4-Hydroxyhippuric 30 H 47

Succinic 23 H 30

HPHPA (Clostridia Marker) 220 H 354

Oxalate Metabolites

Oxalic 35 - 185 H 263

Glycolytic Cycle Metabolites

Pyruvic 0.32 - 8.8 H 15

Krebs Cycle Metabolites

Succinic 23 H 30

Neurotransmitter Metabolites

Kynurenic 4.2 H 4.9

Quinolinc / 5-HIAA Ratio 2.5 H 9.0

Ketone and Fatty Acid Oxidation

3-Hydroxybutyric 4.8 H 6.5

4-Hydroxybutyric 4.7 H 12

Sebacic 0.61 H 1.1

Indicators of Detoxification

Pyroglutamic13 - 62 H 67

Orotic 0.04 - 0.80 H 1.2

Very Low Vit C and Low B6

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http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/full_oat.asp

This might help.

Nee Help with OAT Test results

I have an appointment in couple of weeks with our DAN but wanted to know if any of you can help me better understand this. Thanks.Yeast and Fungal Markers5-Hydroxymethyl-2-furoic 28 H 35Arabinose 50 H 364Malabsorption and Bacterial Markers4-Hydroxyhippuric 30 H 47Succinic 23 H 30HPHPA (Clostridia Marker) 220 H 354Oxalate MetabolitesOxalic 35 - 185 H 263Glycolytic Cycle MetabolitesPyruvic 0.32 - 8.8 H 15Krebs Cycle MetabolitesSuccinic 23 H 30Neurotransmitter MetabolitesKynurenic 4.2 H 4.9Quinolinc / 5-HIAA Ratio 2.5 H 9.0Ketone and Fatty Acid Oxidation3-Hydroxybutyric 4.8 H 6.54-Hydroxybutyric 4.7 H 12Sebacic 0.61 H 1.1Indicators of DetoxificationPyroglutamic13 - 62 H 67Orotic 0.04 - 0.80 H 1.2Very Low Vit C and Low B6

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I have an appointment in couple of weeks with our DAN but wanted to know if any of you can help me better understand this. Thanks.

Yeast and Fungal Markers

5-Hydroxymethyl-2-furoic 28 H 35

Arabinose 50 H 364

Congratulations, you have what just about every child with autism has: YEAST. Woo hoo!

Malabsorption and Bacterial Markers

4-Hydroxyhippuric 30 H 47

Succinic 23 H 30

HPHPA (Clostridia Marker) 220 H 354Woo hoo! Clostridia too!

Oxalate Metabolites

Oxalic 35 - 185 H 263Oxalates are high. Not necessarily necessitating a low ox diet but something to look into.

Glycolytic Cycle Metabolites

Pyruvic 0.32 - 8.8 H 15Probably high because of the B6 deficiency, yeast and bacteria.

Krebs Cycle Metabolites

Succinic 23 H 30If one part of the Krebs cycle is off, all of it is off. Where it breaks down is hard to say. It probably started with the Pyruvic tho. Which will hopefully be addressed when you treat B deficiency, yeast and clostridia. Could also be the low proteins. These are all interconnected with the Krebs cycle so it's hard to say where the main problem is.

Neurotransmitter Metabolites

Kynurenic 4.2 H 4.9

Quinolinc / 5-HIAA Ratio 2.5 H 9.0Inflammation markers. Congratulations again. No surprises.

Ketone and Fatty Acid Oxidation

3-Hydroxybutyric 4.8 H 6.5

4-Hydroxybutyric 4.7 H 12

Sebacic 0.61 H 1.1Not absorbing enough proteins and fatty acids. Probably also affected by B deficiency. (What I would do [but I'm not a DAN and your DAN might not do the same] Start with Bs first and see if the absorption goes up. If it doesn't, you'll try supplementing. If it still doesn't go up, you likely have a genetic issue and more protein isn't going to help so stop spending so much money on protein supplements and Omegas and such. Switch to giving Omegas and such every other day instead, try to eat more protein (I have a recipe for protein popsicles on my blog).

Indicators of Detoxification

Pyroglutamic13 - 62 H 67Low glutathione. Might be addressed when addressing Bs, yeast and bacteria. Wouldn't try supplementing first, would wait and see what happens when you address those other things.

Orotic 0.04 - 0.80 H 1.2High ammonia. With this, combined with low protein absorption, I'm going to take a guess and say it's genetic. Especially if your child doesn't eat a lot of protein. It's a guess, that's all. But I make that assumption because its my son. Just go ahead and invest in Yucca and never stop giving it. I mean, you can, but you'll just likely need to give it again if it's genetic because the problem won't go away.

Very Low Vit C and Low B6

No surprises. But I can't remember if C is low ox or not. So, hope that helps! Go ahead and start a biomed book now. Start whatever therapy you start one at a time and make sure you take copious notes. Always be aware of what you're doing, the responses - both positive and negative, and put space between each thing you add so you don't confuse them. Do this now and you'll be able to learn what causes what type of behavior in your child which is more valuable than any lab you can pay for. That and you'll be able to get less labs! ;)Link in my signature for a biomed book if you need one.

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I have an appointment in couple of weeks with our DAN but wanted to know if any of you can help me better understand this. Thanks.

Yeast and Fungal Markers

5-Hydroxymethyl-2-furoic 28 H 35

Arabinose 50 H 364

Congratulations, you have what just about every child with autism has: YEAST. Woo hoo!

Malabsorption and Bacterial Markers

4-Hydroxyhippuric 30 H 47

Succinic 23 H 30

HPHPA (Clostridia Marker) 220 H 354Woo hoo! Clostridia too!

Oxalate Metabolites

Oxalic 35 - 185 H 263Oxalates are high. Not necessarily necessitating a low ox diet but something to look into.

Glycolytic Cycle Metabolites

Pyruvic 0.32 - 8.8 H 15Probably high because of the B6 deficiency, yeast and bacteria.

Krebs Cycle Metabolites

Succinic 23 H 30If one part of the Krebs cycle is off, all of it is off. Where it breaks down is hard to say. It probably started with the Pyruvic tho. Which will hopefully be addressed when you treat B deficiency, yeast and clostridia. Could also be the low proteins. These are all interconnected with the Krebs cycle so it's hard to say where the main problem is.

Neurotransmitter Metabolites

Kynurenic 4.2 H 4.9

Quinolinc / 5-HIAA Ratio 2.5 H 9.0Inflammation markers. Congratulations again. No surprises.

Ketone and Fatty Acid Oxidation

3-Hydroxybutyric 4.8 H 6.5

4-Hydroxybutyric 4.7 H 12

Sebacic 0.61 H 1.1Not absorbing enough proteins and fatty acids. Probably also affected by B deficiency. (What I would do [but I'm not a DAN and your DAN might not do the same] Start with Bs first and see if the absorption goes up. If it doesn't, you'll try supplementing. If it still doesn't go up, you likely have a genetic issue and more protein isn't going to help so stop spending so much money on protein supplements and Omegas and such. Switch to giving Omegas and such every other day instead, try to eat more protein (I have a recipe for protein popsicles on my blog).

Indicators of Detoxification

Pyroglutamic13 - 62 H 67Low glutathione. Might be addressed when addressing Bs, yeast and bacteria. Wouldn't try supplementing first, would wait and see what happens when you address those other things.

Orotic 0.04 - 0.80 H 1.2High ammonia. With this, combined with low protein absorption, I'm going to take a guess and say it's genetic. Especially if your child doesn't eat a lot of protein. It's a guess, that's all. But I make that assumption because its my son. Just go ahead and invest in Yucca and never stop giving it. I mean, you can, but you'll just likely need to give it again if it's genetic because the problem won't go away.

Very Low Vit C and Low B6

No surprises. But I can't remember if C is low ox or not. So, hope that helps! Go ahead and start a biomed book now. Start whatever therapy you start one at a time and make sure you take copious notes. Always be aware of what you're doing, the responses - both positive and negative, and put space between each thing you add so you don't confuse them. Do this now and you'll be able to learn what causes what type of behavior in your child which is more valuable than any lab you can pay for. That and you'll be able to get less labs! ;)Link in my signature for a biomed book if you need one.