Re: pandas/pans or yeast die off?? Badly need help with yeast

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, I am glad vsl3/threelac is working for you. I used vsl 3 last year which

gave him formed stool and we had a lot of die off. But then I never used it

again because of the strep therm. I know it is a controversial subject. I then

wanted to give threelac but it does have some casein. So just to be on safe

side, I started d-lactate free CP. I wonder if it is as effective as vsl 3 for

the oxalate issue. Hope it will work.

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> > >> > > > I am still in the process of trying to figure out what my son's

real issues are. I have been maintaining a log and very closely monitor

everything but there is so much overlap in symptoms, it is hard to tell what the

exact issue is. My son started prescription antifungals in october 2011 and

since then he has been miserable. We attributed it to gcmaf, then clostridia,

then pandas/pans and so on. Now recently whenever I took him off diflucan, he

had a few good days. As soon as I would start him back on diflucan, he will have

a couple of good days and then would have increased ocd, tantrums, acidity,

worsening sensory issues. We have been using zithromax for his possible pandas

diagnosis which has not been confirmed by any labs so far. That has caused yeast

flares. OAT supports the yeast diagnosis as well. Since my kid was on zithromax,

fluconazole and oral vanco, we started transdermal NAC to help the liver. It

definitely calmed him down and

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> > him happy but yeast loved it. So we are constantly trying to promote his

yeast with zithromax and vanco and he doesn't do well on antifungals. I am not

even sure if he has pans or not. Whatever is happening this year has never

happened before. He is off vanco and fluconazole this week and I decided to

replace culturelle with custom probiotic. He received his first dose yesterday

and was calm right away. Even had a two hour nap in the afternoon which never

happens. Today was a rough day for him as he had stomach ache after lunch and

dinner. I am only using the child scoop and he weighs 72 lbs. He got very

chapped lips today, was thirsty and obviously had heartburn. Is this die off? Is

there an overlap between pandas/pans symptoms and yeast die off? I didn't like

nystatin and even diflucan. I am trying to gradually increase custom probiotics

and see how that goes. I am tired of using diflucan and strongly believe that it

has given my son some form of

> > neuropathy in his feet and hands. Now he is off diflucan for four days and

today his writing was much better. I want to try naturals once again for yeast

but he is very sensitive to phenols. I tried candidase but he couldn't tolerate

it. We have used candex in the past without any negatives so I am thinking of

giving it a try again. So should I continue with custom probiotic and candex and

see if the combo helps? Can anyone help me figure this out that whether my son

has pandas/pans or it is indeed the yeast beast? His workup indicates yeast and

the onset of symptoms was after starting the antifungals. The reason I want to

figure this out is because I want to stop using azithromycin as I don't see much

benefit and get a very bad yeast flare.

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> > >> > > > I know a lot of you use GSE for yeast but my son has serious phenol

sensitivity. What other naturals are an option here? I am so tired of seeing my

son miserable and really getting exhausted explaining to the relatives and

friends what is going on with my kid. I would really appreciate any input.

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