my thoughts on Dave!

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First of all WOW!!!!!! I have never experienced anything quite like

this. Kudo's for all the thoughtful responses and the ones' that

said like it is.......

My thoughts regarding this poster:

1). why did he join to begin with? Was he looking for help or

support or to somehow show a moral superiority?

2). I also wonder if there is a reason for such a hard line

concerning alcoholism? Is it because he is in denial over his

own past use of alcohol? or is it because he could have been

mistreated in the hospital by doctors and nurses who

considered his bout of pancreatitis as being induced by

alcoholism so he is still angry about being judged without

deserving it (not that I believe alcoholics should be judged or

mistreated - that they deserve it somehow).

3). As far as not deserving diabetes, as used in his example...if

it is adult on-set diabetes....then a thinking person can make a

good case that this is also a " deserved " disease. That is, it is

associated with obesity, and that too is a choice (if you think as

he does) and that no one forces obese people to eat in excess

so therefore they too are " undeserving of care " and it is not a real

" disease " . (I do not believe this logic, I am just pointing out how

his example can be used to justify any life-style choice disease

and that taken to the extreme, all diseases are " choices " .

I am surprised that there is such malice and anger from a

person that has just joined. I agree with Mark, that Karyn needs

to figure out a way to tone down these posts. I'd hate to out-right

ban someone who is in the process of working through

things...but it seems that his intent is to hurt, not aid others.

And as far as how I got pancreatitis - it is irrelevant. It is my

business, not a matter to be judged on. The people that need to

know, and that I want to know, know. And it shouldn't nor does it,

influence how I am treated or loved.

Laurie