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> A couple of months ago I sat in on a online conference with Dr.

> Shaw of Great Plains Labs/ New Beginnings with the subject

> being, " Oxalates and Autism " . I spent three hours listening and

> watching a powerpoint presentation about oxalates and pictures that

> scared me to death! I typed a question in regard to my daughter's diet

> being SCD and his views on that. He shot the whole diet down and

> seriously believed that it really does not do anything. He suggested I

> go back to GF/CF with the low Oxalate diet attached. I felt very

> defeated! My DAN who works very close with DR. Shaw was the one who

> told me she needed SCD and now I need to go backward? I would LOVE any

> feedback on this. Thanks, Ang

Dear Ang,

We contacted Great Plains Laboratories regarding the video conference

you watched with Dr. Shaw.

Dr. Shaw is currently out of the country. We spoke with , one of

his associates, who was quite surprised to hear Dr. Shaw " shot down "

SCD.

She said that personally SHE believes in SCD and knows of many that

have been helped by SCD.

We will get in touch with Dr. Shaw to discuss this further upon his

return.

I have archived many, many success reports verifying the positive

effects of SCD for their ASD children and can only imagine Dr. Shaw may

not have had an opportunity to know about that or to hear the praise

Dr. Sydney Baker has accorded to SCD.

SCD requires patience, compliance and commitment. Are you dismissing

SCD on a single presentation?

I suggest you go to the Autism Research site and access their online

radio webcasts from numerous DAN Conferences about dietary intervention

for autism. Many distinguished and well qualified health professionals

are on board with the gut-brain connection theory that is the basis for

SCD.

If you have doubts that cannot be assuaged by fact than you are

obviously not ready to commit again. But take the time to research

further before discounting the effectiveness of SCD for adults and

children please.

We have had people who did not do SCD properly, failed when combining

it with prohibited protocols, but who returned to try again and they

succeeded. They never felt they had gone backwards.

The road of SCD is not guaranteed to always be straight and smooth, but

be assured of one thing. SCD is not " going backwards! "

Carol F.

SCD 7 years.

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Hi Ang and Carol,

I think that there is a misunderstanding here, Ang seems comitted to

SCD but someone else is trying to change her mind. Ang just wanted our

support..

Ang,

I am sending you my support. SCD is a great diet,; do not jump into

any other diet until you have spent a lot of time researching the

archives of other diets. You will then be convinced that SCD rules!

Mimi

>

> >

> > A couple of months ago I sat in on a online conference with Dr.

>

> > Shaw of Great Plains Labs/ New Beginnings with the subject

> > being, " Oxalates and Autism " . I spent three hours listening and

> > watching a powerpoint presentation about oxalates and pictures that

> > scared me to death! I typed a question in regard to my daughter's diet

> > being SCD and his views on that. He shot the whole diet down and

> > seriously believed that it really does not do anything. He suggested I

> > go back to GF/CF with the low Oxalate diet attached. I felt very

> > defeated! My DAN who works very close with DR. Shaw was the one who

> > told me she needed SCD and now I need to go backward? I would LOVE any

> > feedback on this. Thanks, Ang

>

>

> Dear Ang,

> We contacted Great Plains Laboratories regarding the video conference

> you watched with Dr. Shaw.

> Dr. Shaw is currently out of the country. We spoke with , one of

> his associates, who was quite surprised to hear Dr. Shaw " shot down "

> SCD.

>

> She said that personally SHE believes in SCD and knows of many that

> have been helped by SCD.

>

> We will get in touch with Dr. Shaw to discuss this further upon his

> return.

>

> I have archived many, many success reports verifying the positive

> effects of SCD for their ASD children and can only imagine Dr. Shaw may

> not have had an opportunity to know about that or to hear the praise

> Dr. Sydney Baker has accorded to SCD.

>

> SCD requires patience, compliance and commitment. Are you dismissing

> SCD on a single presentation?

>

> I suggest you go to the Autism Research site and access their online

> radio webcasts from numerous DAN Conferences about dietary intervention

> for autism. Many distinguished and well qualified health professionals

> are on board with the gut-brain connection theory that is the basis for

> SCD.

>

> If you have doubts that cannot be assuaged by fact than you are

> obviously not ready to commit again. But take the time to research

> further before discounting the effectiveness of SCD for adults and

> children please.

>

> We have had people who did not do SCD properly, failed when combining

> it with prohibited protocols, but who returned to try again and they

> succeeded. They never felt they had gone backwards.

>

> The road of SCD is not guaranteed to always be straight and smooth, but

> be assured of one thing. SCD is not " going backwards! "

>

> Carol F.

> SCD 7 years.

>

>

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I felt the need to show our support to parents that are as new as we

are to this diet :) My son has been on it for 19 days. We have seen

the lows and the highs that have been predicted with this diet. It

has been frustrating and tough at times, but it is also one of the

best things I feel I can do for my son. We do not have a doctor that

supports this diet and I have heard both the good and the bad reasons

for or against this diet.

I can tell you that any diet that shows me how to prepare food in a

safe and nutritious way has value. It may not cure my son, but he is

eating foods that I myself had not considered eating (yes, we are

doing the diet with him). It has challenged everything I knew about

cooking and providing nutrients for myself and my family. Regardless

if SCD is the best diet out there, it has been a good choice for us.

Go with your gut, not what some " expert " says!

Liz

Mom to Caleb, 22mo ASD, 19 days ASD

> > >

> > > A couple of months ago I sat in on a online conference with Dr.

> >

> > > Shaw of Great Plains Labs/ New Beginnings with the subject

> > > being, " Oxalates and Autism " . I spent three hours listening and

> > > watching a powerpoint presentation about oxalates and pictures

that

> > > scared me to death! I typed a question in regard to my

daughter's diet

> > > being SCD and his views on that. He shot the whole diet down

and

> > > seriously believed that it really does not do anything. He

suggested I

> > > go back to GF/CF with the low Oxalate diet attached. I felt

very

> > > defeated! My DAN who works very close with DR. Shaw was the

one who

> > > told me she needed SCD and now I need to go backward? I would

LOVE any

> > > feedback on this. Thanks, Ang

> >

> >

> > Dear Ang,

> > We contacted Great Plains Laboratories regarding the video

conference

> > you watched with Dr. Shaw.

> > Dr. Shaw is currently out of the country. We spoke with ,

one of

> > his associates, who was quite surprised to hear Dr. Shaw " shot

down "

> > SCD.

> >

> > She said that personally SHE believes in SCD and knows of many

that

> > have been helped by SCD.

> >

> > We will get in touch with Dr. Shaw to discuss this further upon

his

> > return.

> >

> > I have archived many, many success reports verifying the positive

> > effects of SCD for their ASD children and can only imagine Dr.

Shaw may

> > not have had an opportunity to know about that or to hear the

praise

> > Dr. Sydney Baker has accorded to SCD.

> >

> > SCD requires patience, compliance and commitment. Are you

dismissing

> > SCD on a single presentation?

> >

> > I suggest you go to the Autism Research site and access their

online

> > radio webcasts from numerous DAN Conferences about dietary

intervention

> > for autism. Many distinguished and well qualified health

professionals

> > are on board with the gut-brain connection theory that is the

basis for

> > SCD.

> >

> > If you have doubts that cannot be assuaged by fact than you are

> > obviously not ready to commit again. But take the time to research

> > further before discounting the effectiveness of SCD for adults

and

> > children please.

> >

> > We have had people who did not do SCD properly, failed when

combining

> > it with prohibited protocols, but who returned to try again and

they

> > succeeded. They never felt they had gone backwards.

> >

> > The road of SCD is not guaranteed to always be straight and

smooth, but

> > be assured of one thing. SCD is not " going backwards! "

> >

> > Carol F.

> > SCD 7 years.

> >

> >

>

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I agree, and I'm surprised at how many parents don't have a clue about dietary

intervention...or don't believe in it...even with kids who have had a DX of ASD

for some time. I met a family tonight at iel's first theraputic horse

back riding instructions, and I noticed the child eating supper before the

lesson in the observation room. He was eating a total typical meal, and he was

probably eight or ten years old. I was really surprised. I feel so blessed to

have found SCD, and always look for opportunity to share it with others. I

often wonder, too, if parents don't believe in dietary intervention because they

haven't found SCD or didn't strictly comply with it for long enough(and

introducing foods in the proper manner) to feel that it had any merits. We have

a friend who is in the research dept. of one of the major banks in the country.

I'd be willing to ask him if he would have time and be willing to somehow set up

a survey on the web for SCD, but Mimi, I need to know what questions you might

want asked on the survey. I wouldn't have a clue how to set something up, but

perhaps he would. I'm at least willing to ask. Let me know what you're looking

for.

Meleah

Re: SCD vs Oxalates

Hi Ang and Carol,

I think that there is a misunderstanding here, Ang seems comitted to

SCD but someone else is trying to change her mind. Ang just wanted our

support..

Ang,

I am sending you my support. SCD is a great diet,; do not jump into

any other diet until you have spent a lot of time researching the

archives of other diets. You will then be convinced that SCD rules!

Mimi

>

> >

> > A couple of months ago I sat in on a online conference with Dr.

>

> > Shaw of Great Plains Labs/ New Beginnings with the subject

> > being, " Oxalates and Autism " . I spent three hours listening and

> > watching a powerpoint presentation about oxalates and pictures that

> > scared me to death! I typed a question in regard to my daughter's diet

> > being SCD and his views on that. He shot the whole diet down and

> > seriously believed that it really does not do anything. He suggested I

> > go back to GF/CF with the low Oxalate diet attached. I felt very

> > defeated! My DAN who works very close with DR. Shaw was the one who

> > told me she needed SCD and now I need to go backward? I would LOVE any

> > feedback on this. Thanks, Ang

>

>

> Dear Ang,

> We contacted Great Plains Laboratories regarding the video conference

> you watched with Dr. Shaw.

> Dr. Shaw is currently out of the country. We spoke with , one of

> his associates, who was quite surprised to hear Dr. Shaw " shot down "

> SCD.

>

> She said that personally SHE believes in SCD and knows of many that

> have been helped by SCD.

>

> We will get in touch with Dr. Shaw to discuss this further upon his

> return.

>

> I have archived many, many success reports verifying the positive

> effects of SCD for their ASD children and can only imagine Dr. Shaw may

> not have had an opportunity to know about that or to hear the praise

> Dr. Sydney Baker has accorded to SCD.

>

> SCD requires patience, compliance and commitment. Are you dismissing

> SCD on a single presentation?

>

> I suggest you go to the Autism Research site and access their online

> radio webcasts from numerous DAN Conferences about dietary intervention

> for autism. Many distinguished and well qualified health professionals

> are on board with the gut-brain connection theory that is the basis for

> SCD.

>

> If you have doubts that cannot be assuaged by fact than you are

> obviously not ready to commit again. But take the time to research

> further before discounting the effectiveness of SCD for adults and

> children please.

>

> We have had people who did not do SCD properly, failed when combining

> it with prohibited protocols, but who returned to try again and they

> succeeded. They never felt they had gone backwards.

>

> The road of SCD is not guaranteed to always be straight and smooth, but

> be assured of one thing. SCD is not " going backwards! "

>

> Carol F.

> SCD 7 years.

>

>

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Meleah,

Your assumption is right on the nose, thanks! Carol, pelase

do not get me wrong, and am an advocate of this diet for my child.

When I started this 1 ½ years ago I did all my research and did it

right. I believe that it was much more beneficial than the GFCF. I am

not talking about taking my daughter off this diet at all; I just

wanted some feedback from the community on the subject so that I may

be able to sleep better at night. To have the doctor that owns both

the supplement and lab testing companies which I have been doing

business with for years now and who also works closely with DAN and

speaks at their conferences knock me down on my diet so fast and

strong just made me feel sad! He also did it very publicly in the

middle of his web conference with many other people listening.

Between ABA, speech, OT, chelation, behavior, socialization, and

vitamin therapy plus cooking and trying to keep up with bills and new

research sometimes I need to hear the words of educated people to

help keep me motivated. As for Dr. Shaw, I can absolutely guarantee

that he spoke these words to me, as they were burned in my head! If

you can get a copy of that conference and or educate him better to

change his view on SCD that would be awesome! Maybe you could even

get his to sell the book on his site! The guy has a lot of influence

in the autism community so I would love to see him become more of an

advocate by becoming more educated. As for me, I love you all and

negative or positive feedback is always welcomed. I am neither an

expert nor a doctor just a mom that loves her daughter and wants to

do all she can to make life better.

Sometime you just need a little help from your friends!

B.

> > >

> > > A couple of months ago I sat in on a online conference with

Dr.

> >

> > > Shaw of Great Plains Labs/ New Beginnings with the subject

> > > being, " Oxalates and Autism " . I spent three hours listening

and

> > > watching a powerpoint presentation about oxalates and

pictures that

> > > scared me to death! I typed a question in regard to my

daughter's diet

> > > being SCD and his views on that. He shot the whole diet down

and

> > > seriously believed that it really does not do anything. He

suggested I

> > > go back to GF/CF with the low Oxalate diet attached. I felt

very

> > > defeated! My DAN who works very close with DR. Shaw was the

one who

> > > told me she needed SCD and now I need to go backward? I would

LOVE any

> > > feedback on this. Thanks, Ang

> >

> >

> > Dear Ang,

> > We contacted Great Plains Laboratories regarding the video

conference

> > you watched with Dr. Shaw.

> > Dr. Shaw is currently out of the country. We spoke with ,

one of

> > his associates, who was quite surprised to hear Dr. Shaw " shot

down "

> > SCD.

> >

> > She said that personally SHE believes in SCD and knows of many

that

> > have been helped by SCD.

> >

> > We will get in touch with Dr. Shaw to discuss this further upon

his

> > return.

> >

> > I have archived many, many success reports verifying the

positive

> > effects of SCD for their ASD children and can only imagine Dr.

Shaw may

> > not have had an opportunity to know about that or to hear the

praise

> > Dr. Sydney Baker has accorded to SCD.

> >

> > SCD requires patience, compliance and commitment. Are you

dismissing

> > SCD on a single presentation?

> >

> > I suggest you go to the Autism Research site and access their

online

> > radio webcasts from numerous DAN Conferences about dietary

intervention

> > for autism. Many distinguished and well qualified health

professionals

> > are on board with the gut-brain connection theory that is the

basis for

> > SCD.

> >

> > If you have doubts that cannot be assuaged by fact than you are

> > obviously not ready to commit again. But take the time to

research

> > further before discounting the effectiveness of SCD for adults

and

> > children please.

> >

> > We have had people who did not do SCD properly, failed when

combining

> > it with prohibited protocols, but who returned to try again and

they

> > succeeded. They never felt they had gone backwards.

> >

> > The road of SCD is not guaranteed to always be straight and

smooth, but

> > be assured of one thing. SCD is not " going backwards! "

> >

> > Carol F.

> > SCD 7 years.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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