Re: Re: oxalic acid testing clarification

[Guest guest]

You guys have been talking some about the OATS testing to see if you kid is high

in oxalic acid. Is the OATS test the same thing as the Metabolic Analysis

Profile (completed by Genova diagnositics). My son had this M.A.P done and all

kinds of " acids " are listed but I don't see the oxalic acid. Was wondering if

it goes by another name that I might be overlooking.

Becky

brian scott wrote:

Hi Carol -

I wasn't sure the OP had completely gone SCD or not. It looks like she has.

As far as I am aware, there are no reliable and accessible diagnostics for

determining if the bacterial imbalances SCD is designed to counteract actually

exist in a particular person. Until this is rectified, we need a mechanism for

determining if SCD is helping our children. In many instances, the only tool for

determining if SCD is helping is the behavior of our children. As many of us are

using SCD with a variety of other things, making this determination with

certainty can be difficult. The test I described could go a long ways in

achieving that certainty. In all likelyhood the child in the post spent 90%+ of

her life eating foods restricted on SCD with regularity; what needs to be

evaluated is the benifit from having certainty SCD is right for the child versus

the cost of a few more days out of literally thousands of days eating complex

carbs. As far as not supporting expirementation, putting autistic children on

SCD is a very laborious experiment to start with.

I'd like to say, I am a beleiver in SCD for our child, but only because we saw

the changes in our child's stool, behavior, and cognitive skills that others

have reported. What's more, we experienced the predicted die off reactions I

described in my post. But that doesn't mean that every autistic child needs to

go SCD. The OP (apparently) hasn't seen enough to convince her that SCD is

helping her child.

brian

Re: SCD vs. Oxaltes?

>

> Hi Ang -

>

> Has you done an OAT to determine if your child has high oxalic acid? This (or

other

tests) may be able to give you guidance as to if reducing oxalates makes sense.

As far as

if SCD works or not, I think it is safe to say it works for some, and not for

others. Many

parents will report die off reactions in their children at regular intervals;

start up, 2

months, 4 months, ect. In many cases this is accompanied by a rash. If you give

SCD a

shot and see the behavioral changes and/or physiological changes your concerns

from a

webcast commentary will fade. If you see no changes after a few months on SCD,

it may

not be right for you.

>

> Your other option might be an experiment. Withhold all complex carbohydrates

for a

few weeks. Then one weekend let free with rice, fries, corn chips and anything

else and

see what happens. Your child's behavior will likely tell you what you need to

know.

>

> brian

>

,

Complex carbs are not even on the SCD diet which is the focus of this list so

how would

they be withdrawn?

I personally would never endorse the experiment you suggest for a child that has

been on

SCD as it could be disastrous to bombard the digestive system with so many toxic

foods, (

foods that don't even get re-introduced to children that are healed) Our list

guideline do

not support such protocols and experiments.

We address the oxalate issues at:

http://www.pecanbre ad.com/new/ ox1.html

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac

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