Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 My yogurt maker finally arrived, but I haven't had time to go to the health food store yet to get Yogourmet starter and I just learned that I can order starter online so I don't have that yet either. Meanwhile, the BTVC book says you can use store-bought yogurt as starter. However, the book also says that you shouldn't use a starter with Bifidus in it. But all the yogurt at the grocery store has Bifidus among the strains, along with Acidophulus and others. I could not find any yogurt without Bifidus. Does that mean I can't use the store yogurt as starter at all? Thanks! --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 , That is correct. I would just wait until you can get some yogurmet. Taking in bifido just for the interim is just not worth the risk. Some others may have suggestions of brands of yogurt that are ok but do not use the ones with bifido in them. Charlene <>< My yogurt maker finally arrived, but I haven't had time to go to the health food store yet to get Yogourmet starter and I just learned that I can order starter online so I don't have that yet either. Meanwhile, the BTVC book says you can use store-bought yogurt as starter. However, the book also says that you shouldn't use a starter with Bifidus in it. But all the yogurt at the grocery store has Bifidus among the strains, along with Acidophulus and others. I could not find any yogurt without Bifidus. Does that mean I can't use the store yogurt as starter at all? Thanks! --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Thanks Charlene. I'll wait until I can get some Yogourmet starter. What is the problem with the Bifidus specifically I wonder? How is Yogourmet smart enough not to include it, and the other yogurt makers use it? Interesting. Thanks, and Charlene Flikkema wrote: , That is correct. I would just wait until you can get some yogurmet. Taking in bifido just for the interim is just not worth the risk. Some others may have suggestions of brands of yogurt that are ok but do not use the ones with bifido in them. Charlene <>< My yogurt maker finally arrived, but I haven't had time to go to the health food store yet to get Yogourmet starter and I just learned that I can order starter online so I don't have that yet either. Meanwhile, the BTVC book says you can use store-bought yogurt as starter. However, the book also says that you shouldn't use a starter with Bifidus in it. But all the yogurt at the grocery store has Bifidus among the strains, along with Acidophulus and others. I could not find any yogurt without Bifidus. Does that mean I can't use the store yogurt as starter at all? Thanks! --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 , This is the problem with Bifido: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/bifidus.htm Charlene <>< Thanks Charlene. I'll wait until I can get some Yogourmet starter. What is the problem with the Bifidus specifically I wonder? How is Yogourmet smart enough not to include it, and the other yogurt makers use it? Interesting. Thanks, and Charlene Flikkema wrote: , That is correct. I would just wait until you can get some yogurmet. Taking in bifido just for the interim is just not worth the risk. Some others may have suggestions of brands of yogurt that are ok but do not use the ones with bifido in them. Charlene <>< My yogurt maker finally arrived, but I haven't had time to go to the health food store yet to get Yogourmet starter and I just learned that I can order starter online so I don't have that yet either. Meanwhile, the BTVC book says you can use store-bought yogurt as starter. However, the book also says that you shouldn't use a starter with Bifidus in it. But all the yogurt at the grocery store has Bifidus among the strains, along with Acidophulus and others. I could not find any yogurt without Bifidus. Does that mean I can't use the store yogurt as starter at all? Thanks! --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 I am stiilllllll waiting on my Progurt so went on a search for store bought yogurt to use for starter before my goats milk expires. I found Erivan Acidophilus Yogurt at Whole Foods this week. The ingredients are unhomogenized whole mile and acidophilus. Seems like is would be a legal starter. Has anyone used it before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 I find that link very confusing since weaning babies prior to or at age 1 is a cultural thing. Anthropologist will tell you that humans were really meant to be breast-fed until their early chilhood years, which means the bifidus strains would naturally be there in early childhood. Did Elaine ever comment on whether or not currently breastfed babies and children should receive the bifidus strain? - and Charlene Flikkema wrote: , This is the problem with Bifido: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/bifidus.htm Charlene <>< Thanks Charlene. I'll wait until I can get some Yogourmet starter. What is the problem with the Bifidus specifically I wonder? How is Yogourmet smart enough not to include it, and the other yogurt makers use it? Interesting. Thanks, and Charlene Flikkema wrote: , That is correct. I would just wait until you can get some yogurmet. Taking in bifido just for the interim is just not worth the risk. Some others may have suggestions of brands of yogurt that are ok but do not use the ones with bifido in them. Charlene <>< My yogurt maker finally arrived, but I haven't had time to go to the health food store yet to get Yogourmet starter and I just learned that I can order starter online so I don't have that yet either. Meanwhile, the BTVC book says you can use store-bought yogurt as starter. However, the book also says that you shouldn't use a starter with Bifidus in it. But all the yogurt at the grocery store has Bifidus among the strains, along with Acidophulus and others. I could not find any yogurt without Bifidus. Does that mean I can't use the store yogurt as starter at all? Thanks! --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Hi , << I find that link very confusing since weaning babies prior to or at age 1 is a cultural thing. Anthropologist will tell you that humans were really meant to be breast-fed until their early chilhood years, which means the bifidus strains would naturally be there in early childhood. Did Elaine ever comment on whether or not currently breastfed babies and children should receive the bifidus strain? >> From what I know of breastmilk it's composition does not remain constant. It changes as the child ages, so breastmilk for an older child may contain little to no bifidum bacteria. Children today are not fed what our ancestors were fed and many start children on solid foods very early. A lot of SCDers who have tried using bifidum have reported disastrous consequences. I think that when we starve out a lot of the harmful microbes, bifidum bacteria will overgrow just like a harmful one. Since any overgrowth is bad we need to avoid this. Many of these people have had serious regressions or flares. I think those not on SCD with a healthy microflora are able to keep bifidum bacteria in balance with all their other bacteria - they are kept from 'misbehaving'. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Hi , << I am stiilllllll waiting on my Progurt so went on a search for store > bought yogurt to use for starter before my goats milk expires. I > found Erivan Acidophilus Yogurt at Whole Foods this week. The ingredients are unhomogenized whole mile and acidophilus. Seems like > is would be a legal starter. Has anyone used it before? >> Sorry, this would not be legal. Yogurt starter for SCDers should have at least S. thermophilus and L. bulgaricus. L. acidophilus or L. casei are optional strains. Until your ProGurt arrives you could use one of the legal commercial yogurts are starter. 1/4 cup of legal commercial is what you need to start 1 quart/liter of milk. Legal yogurt to use as starter can be found at http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/yoghurt/yog_st arters.htm Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 , The yogurt maker (yogurmet) is the maker of choice around here. i have never had a problem with it and it makes superb yogurt everytime. I use the Yogurmet starter as well. These you can both get from Lucy. The Progurt is for those who make goat yogurt and do not want any cow dairy in the starter. This is probably why it is more pricey as well. If you do not care about having that little bit of cow dairy then it is the starter of choice as well. Charlene <>< We are ready to try yogurt and I am looking at the various starters and makers. Do you all have any recommendations or preferences? Is there any specific reason that I would need to use the rather pricey starter from GI Pro? Is the much more affordable yogourmet from Lucy's OK? Is there any particular maker that you like and recommend? Thank you so much!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Can the Yogurtmet starter be bought at most health food stores? Meleah Re: Yogurt Starter , The yogurt maker (yogurmet) is the maker of choice around here. i have never had a problem with it and it makes superb yogurt everytime. I use the Yogurmet starter as well. These you can both get from Lucy. The Progurt is for those who make goat yogurt and do not want any cow dairy in the starter. This is probably why it is more pricey as well. If you do not care about having that little bit of cow dairy then it is the starter of choice as well. Charlene <>< We are ready to try yogurt and I am looking at the various starters and makers. Do you all have any recommendations or preferences? Is there any specific reason that I would need to use the rather pricey starter from GI Pro? Is the much more affordable yogourmet from Lucy's OK? Is there any particular maker that you like and recommend? Thank you so much!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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