Re: SCD and Chelation: unsolicitated opinion

[Guest guest]

> The articles that I initially sent for proving that LPS, a

bacterial

> toxin, causes liver dysfunction were very advanced and unclear. To

> someone who is not familiar with the topic, they might seem to not

> have any thing to do with my assertion that LPS causes liver

> dysfunction. I am sorry that I was rushed and sent unclear

>articles.

From just my point of view - don't ever apologize for sending along

something 'advanced and potentially unclear'. If I need to figure

something out I'll get it done. I'd rather work then get watered -

down info. ly, the more eyes looking for info the better ;-)

Plus, if you just send the links (as you have in this email) then

anyone interested can save them to fiddle with on their own time.

>

> Since carefully reviewing my research this morning, I remain

confident

> that my information is correct.

> The pertinent point is that LPS, a bacterial toxin, can cause liver

> dysfunction. SCD starves out gram negative bacteria that produce

LPS, so

> implementing SCD could help since the liver is a major organ for

> detoxification. It is clear that there is a huge amount of research

> validating that LPS

> does cause liver damage. I already cited proof in a previous

posts.

>

Don't want to put words in Wil's mouth here, but I think his issue

was the claim that " SCD Chelates " . Not " SCD by correct

implementation will reduce/remove a harmful bacterial by-product

that has a detrimental effect on normal liver function " . Two wholly

different concepts.

Don't mistake me, scd (with modifications specific for my son) is

fanTAStic, and we certainly won't be revisiting gf etc. However.

There are some asd children whose issues are deeper than *just* gut

function (like my kiddo), and some families may have to branch out.

It does not make diet any less important; just ain't the only iron

in the fire.

This is a btvc scd list, and it has been explained and understood

that in the interest of focus btvc scd is THE topic on the table

here. Which is cool, as there's a lot to it. But if other topics

come up ****and are addressed onlist**** then I think either hearing

other opinions/directing people specifically elsewhere is fair, OR

immeadiately shutting down the convo without such claims with no

specific backing.

What do the moderators think?

-christine

(tx for links, btw - neat stuff :-)

[Guest guest]

>

> From just my point of view - don't ever apologize for sending along

> something 'advanced and potentially unclear'. If I need to figure

> something out I'll get it done. I'd rather work then get watered -

> down info. ly, the more eyes looking for info the better ;-)

> Plus, if you just send the links (as you have in this email) then

> anyone interested can save them to fiddle with on their own time.

Elaine worried about who would carry on research and I think she would be

pleased with

the work done by Mimi and Tamarro.

Carol F.

SCD7 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Several years ago, when we first decided to make an SCD list for

chuldren, we wanted to explore the following two issues:

Is the yogurt OK for ASD kids?

How do we combine SCD with other treatments?

We wanted to rebel against the very restricted atmosphere of the

official SCD list. (It was a list where the majority of members were

adults with IBD). We did discuss these issues when we were a tiny

list. I completely understand your feelings; that is why I rebeled

against the LI listserve and wanted a new list.

To make a long story short, we have been swamped with just helping folks do SCD.

Maybe there should be a section on our website about other treatments.

Anyone want to volunteer to write it?

As soon as I wrote this, I realized how difficult it would be to

assess the different treatments. How can we tell the difference

between a phony treatment and a good one....It sure would take a lot

of work... I think that right now, we need more active volunteers to

run SCD. Only when we have more helpers can we even consider branching

out.....

Mimi

[Guest guest]

How about lifting material (with permission) about additional treatments from

some of the DAN doctors who endorse SCD?

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pecan post wrote:

Hi ,

Several years ago, when we first decided to make an SCD list for

chuldren, we wanted to explore the following two issues:

Is the yogurt OK for ASD kids?

How do we combine SCD with other treatments?

We wanted to rebel against the very restricted atmosphere of the

official SCD list. (It was a list where the majority of members were

adults with IBD). We did discuss these issues when we were a tiny

list. I completely understand your feelings; that is why I rebeled

against the LI listserve and wanted a new list.

To make a long story short, we have been swamped with just helping folks do SCD.

Maybe there should be a section on our website about other treatments.

Anyone want to volunteer to write it?

As soon as I wrote this, I realized how difficult it would be to

assess the different treatments. How can we tell the difference

between a phony treatment and a good one....It sure would take a lot

of work... I think that right now, we need more active volunteers to

run SCD. Only when we have more helpers can we even consider branching

out.....

Mimi

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