Re: help...can't digest protein - low stomach acid

[Guest guest]

I've wondered about using the betaine to " fix' low stomach acid. It addresses

the problem,

but does't address what might be the underlying cause. Any ideas about what

might be

the cause of low stomach acid? I also wonder about using something like bitters

which are

supposed to naturally stimulate your body to create more stomach acid.

I have the same problem, constipation, yeast issues, I can take 4-6 betaine

hydrochloride

pills with a meal and never feel a burning. Hours after a meal I can still

" taste " the food in

my stomach, or at least I know it's still there. Sometimes, I drink apple-cider

vinegar

mixed with water saccharine with meals and that helps with my digestion.

I also have fine brittle hair which keeps falling out, but none of the other

signs (other than

overweight) of hypothyroid (though my TSH is at about 2.7).

Theresa

IBS whole life, SCD 2 years

>

> Welcome to the group Vada,

>

> <<...i do have yeast and

> > leaky gut.....my main symptoms are bloating (inablitly to digest

> > meat, eggs, etc,) gerd, and constipation... >>

>

> This sounds similar to a person I counselled a few years ago. The

> person had low stomach acid. The low stomach acid prevented the body

> from fighting H. pylori and they ended up with H. pylori infection,

> stomach ulcers, bloating constipation etc...

>

> I'd suggest getting the level of your stomach acid tested to see if

> you have low stomach acid. If you do you can take betaine HCl for

> that and perhaps protolytic enzymes. But you need to know if your

> low stomach acid is the root problem.

>

> Some info on stomach acid tests:

>

> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003883.htm

> http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/health/Therapy/Acid_Test.htm

>

> If you do have low stomach acid it isn't suprising that you have

> yeast, your bodies natural defenses are " out of whack " . If you have

> questions you can contact me on or off list sheilat@...

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Theresa,

<< I've wondered about using the betaine to " fix' low stomach acid.

It addresses the problem, but does't address what might be the

underlying cause. Any ideas about what might be the cause of low

stomach acid? >>

Some think low stomach acid is hereditary. I don't know if using

betaine HCl and having a good diet will trigger the body to start

producing its' own HCl or if a person would need to stay on it for

life.

<< I also wonder about using something like bitters which are

> supposed to naturally stimulate your body to create more stomach

acid. >>

They do help some people. Some find enzymes, lemon juice/a. cider

vinegar with meals and/or cayenne pepper also helpful.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

I did a stupid thing at lunch and bought some Swedish bitters at the HFS and

drank it with

water before lunch. I knew the first ingredient was Aloe Vera (illegal) but was

desperate to

try something different (hadn't gone #2 since Friday). I paid the price with

watery,

mucousy D a few hours later and feeling spacey all afternoon. Stupid stupid

stupid.

I will do some more research, and maybe get tested for low stomach acid. I

wonder

because it seems like I could take a whole bottle of betaine hcl and wouldn't

feel burning,

so I wonder what's going on there (I think I've taken up to 8 with no burning

sensation).

I take lipase with anything fatty that I eat and I still burp later. Something's

obviously

going on there, causing my main symptom of C and bloating.

I also have fine, brittle hair which falls out continuously. When I drink ACV

(apple cider

vinegar) with water and saccharine with meals, I feel the stubble of regrowth on

my scalp

within a few days, so that's a good sign. I guess I should keep it up :-). Oh

yeah, I did take

cayenne for a while and that really regulated me. Should keep that up too. I

just bought

hot cayenne in bulk and made up my own pills using empty " OOO " gelatin capsules.

I'm an advocate of looking for underlying causes rather than treating symptoms,

so I'm

still trying to figure out why (other than heredity) I have low stomach acid

(aka

hypochloridia). Sometimes I think I do too much research on the internet and

need to look

at old library books for answers.

Thanks for replying Sheila.

Theresa (in Vancouver, Canada)

IBS whole life, SCD 2 years

>

> Hi Theresa,

>

> << I've wondered about using the betaine to " fix' low stomach acid.

> It addresses the problem, but does't address what might be the

> underlying cause. Any ideas about what might be the cause of low

> stomach acid? >>

>

> Some think low stomach acid is hereditary. I don't know if using

> betaine HCl and having a good diet will trigger the body to start

> producing its' own HCl or if a person would need to stay on it for

> life.

>

> << I also wonder about using something like bitters which are

> > supposed to naturally stimulate your body to create more stomach

> acid. >>

>

> They do help some people. Some find enzymes, lemon juice/a. cider

> vinegar with meals and/or cayenne pepper also helpful.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

---

Not sure if this is correct, but I read that helicobactor pylori

infection neutralizes stomach acid in order to survive. Maybe a test

for this can be done.

Regards Glynis

mam to Jasmine, 7 yrs

Diagnosed with Kabuki Syndrome

NG tube fed.

In pecanbread , " tm_marion " wrote:

> I did a stupid thing at lunch and bought some Swedish bitters at

the HFS and drank it with

> water before lunch. I knew the first ingredient was Aloe Vera

(illegal) but was desperate to

> try something different (hadn't gone #2 since Friday). I paid the

price with watery,

> mucousy D a few hours later and feeling spacey all afternoon.

Stupid stupid stupid.

>

> I will do some more research, and maybe get tested for low stomach

acid. I wonder

> because it seems like I could take a whole bottle of betaine hcl

and wouldn't feel burning,

> so I wonder what's going on there (I think I've taken up to 8 with

no burning sensation).

>

> I take lipase with anything fatty that I eat and I still burp

later. Something's obviously

> going on there, causing my main symptom of C and bloating.

>

> I also have fine, brittle hair which falls out continuously. When I

drink ACV (apple cider

> vinegar) with water and saccharine with meals, I feel the stubble

of regrowth on my scalp

> within a few days, so that's a good sign. I guess I should keep it

up :-). Oh yeah, I did take

> cayenne for a while and that really regulated me. Should keep that

up too. I just bought

> hot cayenne in bulk and made up my own pills using empty " OOO "

gelatin capsules.

>

> I'm an advocate of looking for underlying causes rather than

treating symptoms, so I'm

> still trying to figure out why (other than heredity) I have low

stomach acid (aka

> hypochloridia). Sometimes I think I do too much research on the

internet and need to look

> at old library books for answers.

>

> Thanks for replying Sheila.

>

> Theresa (in Vancouver, Canada)

> IBS whole life, SCD 2 years

>

>

> >

> > Hi Theresa,

> >

> > << I've wondered about using the betaine to " fix' low stomach

acid.

> > It addresses the problem, but does't address what might be the

> > underlying cause. Any ideas about what might be the cause of low

> > stomach acid? >>

> >

> > Some think low stomach acid is hereditary. I don't know if using

> > betaine HCl and having a good diet will trigger the body to start

> > producing its' own HCl or if a person would need to stay on it

for

> > life.

> >

> > << I also wonder about using something like bitters which are

> > > supposed to naturally stimulate your body to create more

stomach

> > acid. >>

> >

> > They do help some people. Some find enzymes, lemon juice/a.

cider

> > vinegar with meals and/or cayenne pepper also helpful.

> >

> > Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

> > mom of and

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think it's time to see the GP and get some tests done. I'm not sure what the

best way is to

test for h pylori.

Theresa

> > >

> > > Hi Theresa,

> > >

> > > << I've wondered about using the betaine to " fix' low stomach

> acid.

> > > It addresses the problem, but does't address what might be the

> > > underlying cause. Any ideas about what might be the cause of low

> > > stomach acid? >>

> > >

> > > Some think low stomach acid is hereditary. I don't know if using

> > > betaine HCl and having a good diet will trigger the body to start

> > > producing its' own HCl or if a person would need to stay on it

> for

> > > life.

> > >

> > > << I also wonder about using something like bitters which are

> > > > supposed to naturally stimulate your body to create more

> stomach

> > > acid. >>

> > >

> > > They do help some people. Some find enzymes, lemon juice/a.

> cider

> > > vinegar with meals and/or cayenne pepper also helpful.

> > >

> > > Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

> > > mom of and

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Its either a blood test or a breath test.

Charlene

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I think it's time to see the GP and get some tests done. I'm not sure what the

best way is to

test for h pylori.

Theresa

> > >

> > > Hi Theresa,

> > >

> > > << I've wondered about using the betaine to " fix' low stomach

> acid.

> > > It addresses the problem, but does't address what might be the

> > > underlying cause. Any ideas about what might be the cause of low

> > > stomach acid? >>

> > >

> > > Some think low stomach acid is hereditary. I don't know if using

> > > betaine HCl and having a good diet will trigger the body to start

> > > producing its' own HCl or if a person would need to stay on it

> for

> > > life.

> > >

> > > << I also wonder about using something like bitters which are

> > > > supposed to naturally stimulate your body to create more

> stomach

> > > acid. >>

> > >

> > > They do help some people. Some find enzymes, lemon juice/a.

> cider

> > > vinegar with meals and/or cayenne pepper also helpful.

> > >

> > > Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

> > > mom of and

> > >

> >

>