Guest guest Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 I received an E-Mail from . This is the returned answer she received. I hope she enjoys reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it. I wondered how long it would take her to E-Mail me. Well, she did, and I gave her my own little opinion of how I felt being harassed. I don't usually get upset, and it takes a lot to get me angry, but I cannot stand someone to blindly butt in. I am sorry this is so long, but ignorant people make me nuts!!!! http://www.fourlane.com/mgb Before you have the " mini-gastric bypass, " you should know of a serious danger that only the Mini-gastric bypass has, that no other weight loss surgery has, that Dr. Rutledge does not tell you about, alkaline reflux. Alkaline reflux can NOT occur normally, it only happens as the result of a surgical procedure. It causes intestinal contents to be dumped from the intestines into the stomach. This is very dangerous because intestinal contents are alkaline, and much, much stronger than stomach acid. When this happens, the stomach lining gets eaten away, as does the throat. Here are links to information about the dangers of the minigastric bypass: Pictures showing why the mgb dumps intestinal contents into your stomach (which no other weight loss surgery does): http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/pictures.htm Photographs and medical reports of the damage the mgb causes: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/picture2.htm Medical Studies showing the Dangers of the Billroth II loop (used in the MGB): http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/problems.htm http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/cancer.htm My damage in 5 months: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/mymed.htm Post-Ops, read this: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/postops.htm There are a dozen surgeons, some of whom used to do this procedure and did a LOT of research on it, 25 years ago -- who have spoken out against Rutledge for doing this surgery because it CAUSES this problem. Note, it CAUSES the problem, it is not a minor little " risk " of the surgery. Here are some links to doctors telling you why the minigastric bypass has dangers that no other weight loss surgery has and why you shouldn't have it: http://www.mini-gastricbypass.com/OtherSurgeons.htm http://www.gastricbypass.com/SOMO.html http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/doctors.htm Patients who say they are " happy and losing weight " are the only people he lets post on his message board. I am banned and so are many others. But NONE of his patients had surgery over 3 years ago. Out of 963 patients, he did 663 of them THIS YEAR and most of the WORST DAMAGE from the surgery can take 5 years to set in. This alkaline reflux also has a high correlation to cancer. These are proven facts, not theory, but he sets it up on his webpage like it isn't anything to worry about, and tries to " argue it. " Think about this: A doctor has a DUTY, a LEGAL DUTY, to warn you of risks, even if he personally doesn't think the risk is much. On my website, you will see dozens of pages of proof that what I am telling you is medical fact, yet NO WHERE in Rutledge's warnings or risk of the surgery does he tell you about this and it is THE SINGLE WORST RISK OF HIS SURGERY and it is ONLY A RISK with the MGB. NO OTHER WEIGHT LOSS SURGERY CAUSES THIS! There are other laparoscopic surgeries -- they are fast, they have minimal recovery, they have minimal scarring and NONE of them has this risk. After you know this risk, think of even one good reason to have the MGB instead of some other surgery. Here are some links to weight loss surgeries done laparoscopically and other weight loss surgery information: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/wls.htm http://www.duodenalswitch.com http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~olwen/links/wssu.htm http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/ (AMOS - association for morbid obesity support) Don't be fooled. The MGB is NOT the only laparoscopic surgery out there, but it IS the only one that can leave you in terrible shape. Alkaline damage cannot be treated with medicine. I have the ulcers from it already and they have to be SURGICALLY REMOVED. See the proof. I have put up a lot of new information here, including detailed pictures and photographs, as well as the statements of one dozen top bariatric surgeons. http://www.fourlane.com/mgb In case you don't know it, until Rutledge was fired from his last job 3 years ago, he *never* did any research or work in weight loss surgery or obesity at all -- he came up with this idea as his personal little money maker, using an abandoned, dangerous, but fast, trauma surgery he had learned how to do. If you look at his publications (I have put these up on the site with synopses), they are all statistical analyses, not any scientific research at all. Ask yourself why a doctor would go out of his way to NOT warn you about a serious, known risk of surgery that ONLY and SPECIFICALLY his surgery can cause. Then see the proof of just how bad it is. You'll understand why he lies -- he has to because if you knew the truth, you would never have the surgery! He also probably submitted your insurance pre-approval under a fraudulent code, 43846. If your insurance was given the right code, they would never approve it. The RNY is an accepted procedure, the MGB is an abandoned dangerous procedure. It's just another lie he has to tell. http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/insure.htm Here is how to find a lot of other Weight Loss surgery Support groups: Go to http://www.egroups.com and sign in. Then click on " my groups. " In the search box, type in the letters OSSG (that stands for Obesity Surgery Support Group). You will turn up dozens of links. Sign up for some of the big ones, ask questions, talk to people who have had other surgeries. You will lose weight with ANY of the weight loss surgeries, and they can ALL be done laparoscopically. Please, have some other weight loss surgery, not this one. It is the only one that has THESE risks, in addition to the other known risks of any weight loss surgery. You will have to live with your decision the rest of your life. Do you want to spend it worrying if you will be one of the people who will get the terrible damage the minigastric bypass causes? -- Kind regards, http://www.fourlane.com/lindat --------------------------------------------- ROBERT R. RUTLEDGE, M.D., BUSTED! http://www.fourlane.com/mgb --------------------------------------------- Never be afraid to try. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic. ---------------------------------------------- Rats in a maze long enough don't look for the way out, they just look for the day's supply of cheese. ___________________________________________________________ Get more from your time online. 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Guest guest Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 I received an E-Mail from . This is the returned answer she received. I hope she enjoys reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it. I wondered how long it would take her to E-Mail me. Well, she did, and I gave her my own little opinion of how I felt being harassed. I don't usually get upset, and it takes a lot to get me angry, but I cannot stand someone to blindly butt in. I am sorry this is so long, but ignorant people make me nuts!!!! http://www.fourlane.com/mgb Before you have the " mini-gastric bypass, " you should know of a serious danger that only the Mini-gastric bypass has, that no other weight loss surgery has, that Dr. Rutledge does not tell you about, alkaline reflux. Alkaline reflux can NOT occur normally, it only happens as the result of a surgical procedure. It causes intestinal contents to be dumped from the intestines into the stomach. This is very dangerous because intestinal contents are alkaline, and much, much stronger than stomach acid. When this happens, the stomach lining gets eaten away, as does the throat. Here are links to information about the dangers of the minigastric bypass: Pictures showing why the mgb dumps intestinal contents into your stomach (which no other weight loss surgery does): http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/pictures.htm Photographs and medical reports of the damage the mgb causes: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/picture2.htm Medical Studies showing the Dangers of the Billroth II loop (used in the MGB): http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/problems.htm http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/cancer.htm My damage in 5 months: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/mymed.htm Post-Ops, read this: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/postops.htm There are a dozen surgeons, some of whom used to do this procedure and did a LOT of research on it, 25 years ago -- who have spoken out against Rutledge for doing this surgery because it CAUSES this problem. Note, it CAUSES the problem, it is not a minor little " risk " of the surgery. Here are some links to doctors telling you why the minigastric bypass has dangers that no other weight loss surgery has and why you shouldn't have it: http://www.mini-gastricbypass.com/OtherSurgeons.htm http://www.gastricbypass.com/SOMO.html http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/doctors.htm Patients who say they are " happy and losing weight " are the only people he lets post on his message board. I am banned and so are many others. But NONE of his patients had surgery over 3 years ago. Out of 963 patients, he did 663 of them THIS YEAR and most of the WORST DAMAGE from the surgery can take 5 years to set in. This alkaline reflux also has a high correlation to cancer. These are proven facts, not theory, but he sets it up on his webpage like it isn't anything to worry about, and tries to " argue it. " Think about this: A doctor has a DUTY, a LEGAL DUTY, to warn you of risks, even if he personally doesn't think the risk is much. On my website, you will see dozens of pages of proof that what I am telling you is medical fact, yet NO WHERE in Rutledge's warnings or risk of the surgery does he tell you about this and it is THE SINGLE WORST RISK OF HIS SURGERY and it is ONLY A RISK with the MGB. NO OTHER WEIGHT LOSS SURGERY CAUSES THIS! There are other laparoscopic surgeries -- they are fast, they have minimal recovery, they have minimal scarring and NONE of them has this risk. After you know this risk, think of even one good reason to have the MGB instead of some other surgery. Here are some links to weight loss surgeries done laparoscopically and other weight loss surgery information: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/wls.htm http://www.duodenalswitch.com http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~olwen/links/wssu.htm http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/ (AMOS - association for morbid obesity support) Don't be fooled. The MGB is NOT the only laparoscopic surgery out there, but it IS the only one that can leave you in terrible shape. Alkaline damage cannot be treated with medicine. I have the ulcers from it already and they have to be SURGICALLY REMOVED. See the proof. I have put up a lot of new information here, including detailed pictures and photographs, as well as the statements of one dozen top bariatric surgeons. http://www.fourlane.com/mgb In case you don't know it, until Rutledge was fired from his last job 3 years ago, he *never* did any research or work in weight loss surgery or obesity at all -- he came up with this idea as his personal little money maker, using an abandoned, dangerous, but fast, trauma surgery he had learned how to do. If you look at his publications (I have put these up on the site with synopses), they are all statistical analyses, not any scientific research at all. Ask yourself why a doctor would go out of his way to NOT warn you about a serious, known risk of surgery that ONLY and SPECIFICALLY his surgery can cause. Then see the proof of just how bad it is. You'll understand why he lies -- he has to because if you knew the truth, you would never have the surgery! He also probably submitted your insurance pre-approval under a fraudulent code, 43846. If your insurance was given the right code, they would never approve it. The RNY is an accepted procedure, the MGB is an abandoned dangerous procedure. It's just another lie he has to tell. http://www.fourlane.com/mgb/insure.htm Here is how to find a lot of other Weight Loss surgery Support groups: Go to http://www.egroups.com and sign in. Then click on " my groups. " In the search box, type in the letters OSSG (that stands for Obesity Surgery Support Group). You will turn up dozens of links. Sign up for some of the big ones, ask questions, talk to people who have had other surgeries. You will lose weight with ANY of the weight loss surgeries, and they can ALL be done laparoscopically. Please, have some other weight loss surgery, not this one. It is the only one that has THESE risks, in addition to the other known risks of any weight loss surgery. You will have to live with your decision the rest of your life. Do you want to spend it worrying if you will be one of the people who will get the terrible damage the minigastric bypass causes? -- Kind regards, http://www.fourlane.com/lindat --------------------------------------------- ROBERT R. RUTLEDGE, M.D., BUSTED! http://www.fourlane.com/mgb --------------------------------------------- Never be afraid to try. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic. ---------------------------------------------- Rats in a maze long enough don't look for the way out, they just look for the day's supply of cheese. ___________________________________________________________ Get more from your time online. 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Guest guest Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 Hi all: So this is my first posting on the website, but I have been quietly reading it on and off for about a month now. You all sound like such a friendly group...actually more like a big family.I have heard many of you speak of this " Dragon " lady, , and now, finally thanks to Louisa, I am able to read some of what she has to say. Has anyone out there taken the time to research her claims? Why is she so bitter? Could there be any truth at all to what she says? I tell you, her letter did scare me and I will research the sites she posted. Where was Dr. Rutledge before he opened his clinic? I know that this is a sensitive subject with many of you but a girl's gotta ask...you know?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 Hi all: So this is my first posting on the website, but I have been quietly reading it on and off for about a month now. You all sound like such a friendly group...actually more like a big family.I have heard many of you speak of this " Dragon " lady, , and now, finally thanks to Louisa, I am able to read some of what she has to say. Has anyone out there taken the time to research her claims? Why is she so bitter? Could there be any truth at all to what she says? I tell you, her letter did scare me and I will research the sites she posted. Where was Dr. Rutledge before he opened his clinic? I know that this is a sensitive subject with many of you but a girl's gotta ask...you know?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 You know, you are correct. It does require a lot of research. I did go to the surgical board site and find out about Dr. Rutldge. There have been no disciplinary actions against him and he is in good standing. It is good the letter scared you because no one should go into this surgery blindly. It is a major operation and I wished someone would just make the decision for me. But, in the long run, your own research will make you feel better. I have done the research and feel confident in my decision. You need to take time to research (as hard as that is) and feel confident in your decision. Only you can tell if this is the right path for you. I usually don't go off on people like , but I kept reading everyone's messages on here, and it really upset me. I do believe has some medical problems, which could be from pre-operative problems as well. There are risks involved in this surgery, as well as any weight loss surgery. Weigh the risks of surgery against the risk of obesity. Research until you are so sick of the surgery you can't see straight. Then, make your decision and stand tall...you can make the choice and feel good about it. God bless you and please remember that this needs to be your choice. Take into consideration everything in 's past and let that be the judge of her antics. I hope I have not offended anyone on the egroup by writing that letter to , but I felt justified in doing it for my own sake and sanity. I myself have made the decision to go with Dr. R and do the dance. I am secure in my decision and will send my packet in on Monday. Well, I have rattled on enough. See ya! Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb Hi all: So this is my first posting on the website, but I have been quietly reading it on and off for about a month now. You all sound like such a friendly group...actually more like a big family.I have heard many of you speak of this " Dragon " lady, , and now, finally thanks to Louisa, I am able to read some of what she has to say. Has anyone out there taken the time to research her claims? Why is she so bitter? Could there be any truth at all to what she says? I tell you, her letter did scare me and I will research the sites she posted. Where was Dr. Rutledge before he opened his clinic? I know that this is a sensitive subject with many of you but a girl's gotta ask...you know?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 You know, you are correct. It does require a lot of research. I did go to the surgical board site and find out about Dr. Rutldge. There have been no disciplinary actions against him and he is in good standing. It is good the letter scared you because no one should go into this surgery blindly. It is a major operation and I wished someone would just make the decision for me. But, in the long run, your own research will make you feel better. I have done the research and feel confident in my decision. You need to take time to research (as hard as that is) and feel confident in your decision. Only you can tell if this is the right path for you. I usually don't go off on people like , but I kept reading everyone's messages on here, and it really upset me. I do believe has some medical problems, which could be from pre-operative problems as well. There are risks involved in this surgery, as well as any weight loss surgery. Weigh the risks of surgery against the risk of obesity. Research until you are so sick of the surgery you can't see straight. Then, make your decision and stand tall...you can make the choice and feel good about it. God bless you and please remember that this needs to be your choice. Take into consideration everything in 's past and let that be the judge of her antics. I hope I have not offended anyone on the egroup by writing that letter to , but I felt justified in doing it for my own sake and sanity. I myself have made the decision to go with Dr. R and do the dance. I am secure in my decision and will send my packet in on Monday. Well, I have rattled on enough. See ya! Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb Hi all: So this is my first posting on the website, but I have been quietly reading it on and off for about a month now. You all sound like such a friendly group...actually more like a big family.I have heard many of you speak of this " Dragon " lady, , and now, finally thanks to Louisa, I am able to read some of what she has to say. Has anyone out there taken the time to research her claims? Why is she so bitter? Could there be any truth at all to what she says? I tell you, her letter did scare me and I will research the sites she posted. Where was Dr. Rutledge before he opened his clinic? I know that this is a sensitive subject with many of you but a girl's gotta ask...you know?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 We have... she's crazy.. That's my two cents, Trudy post op 11-3-00 down 25 lbs !!! Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb Hi all: So this is my first posting on the website, but I have been quietly reading it on and off for about a month now. You all sound like such a friendly group...actually more like a big family.I have heard many of you speak of this " Dragon " lady, , and now, finally thanks to Louisa, I am able to read some of what she has to say. Has anyone out there taken the time to research her claims? Why is she so bitter? Could there be any truth at all to what she says? I tell you, her letter did scare me and I will research the sites she posted. Where was Dr. Rutledge before he opened his clinic? I know that this is a sensitive subject with many of you but a girl's gotta ask...you know?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 We have... she's crazy.. That's my two cents, Trudy post op 11-3-00 down 25 lbs !!! Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb Hi all: So this is my first posting on the website, but I have been quietly reading it on and off for about a month now. You all sound like such a friendly group...actually more like a big family.I have heard many of you speak of this " Dragon " lady, , and now, finally thanks to Louisa, I am able to read some of what she has to say. Has anyone out there taken the time to research her claims? Why is she so bitter? Could there be any truth at all to what she says? I tell you, her letter did scare me and I will research the sites she posted. Where was Dr. Rutledge before he opened his clinic? I know that this is a sensitive subject with many of you but a girl's gotta ask...you know?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 Exactly!!!! I thought the same thing. Where was her research? Anyone having a major surgery researches BEFORE!!!! Oh, well, I have said my piece on LT and now I am at peace. Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb After several weeks of reading about LT and her claims, I finally decided to go to her web site and see for myself. What I found sounded like the ravings of a person who is ill, and I'm not talking about bile reflux. One thing did stand out to me though. evidently didn't research this surgery until after she had it. She depended on what she says Dr. R told her, but it sounds like she didn't even start asking questions until she got sick. A little late I think! I have been sitting here stalling over my patient letter for several days, dreading having to write a 10 page " research paper " . Now I can only say, I am deeply grateful that Dr. R requires us to know what we are getting ourselves into. I am glad that I am confident that this is the right move for me. Maybe I'll have problems with bile reflux too, who knows. But, maybe, I'll have no complications at all, or maybe I'll come out somewhere in the middle. Maybe I'll die. But at least with Dr. R it is a very faint maybe. With the 318 pounds that I am now schlepping around, it's a certainty. I'm sorry didn't adequately research the surgery so that she knew what all the possibilities are, but I have to say I'm glad I did. I can't wait for my dance! Cheryl in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 Exactly!!!! I thought the same thing. Where was her research? Anyone having a major surgery researches BEFORE!!!! Oh, well, I have said my piece on LT and now I am at peace. Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb After several weeks of reading about LT and her claims, I finally decided to go to her web site and see for myself. What I found sounded like the ravings of a person who is ill, and I'm not talking about bile reflux. One thing did stand out to me though. evidently didn't research this surgery until after she had it. She depended on what she says Dr. R told her, but it sounds like she didn't even start asking questions until she got sick. A little late I think! I have been sitting here stalling over my patient letter for several days, dreading having to write a 10 page " research paper " . Now I can only say, I am deeply grateful that Dr. R requires us to know what we are getting ourselves into. I am glad that I am confident that this is the right move for me. Maybe I'll have problems with bile reflux too, who knows. But, maybe, I'll have no complications at all, or maybe I'll come out somewhere in the middle. Maybe I'll die. But at least with Dr. R it is a very faint maybe. With the 318 pounds that I am now schlepping around, it's a certainty. I'm sorry didn't adequately research the surgery so that she knew what all the possibilities are, but I have to say I'm glad I did. I can't wait for my dance! Cheryl in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 After several weeks of reading about LT and her claims, I finally decided to go to her web site and see for myself. What I found sounded like the ravings of a person who is ill, and I'm not talking about bile reflux. One thing did stand out to me though. evidently didn't research this surgery until after she had it. She depended on what she says Dr. R told her, but it sounds like she didn't even start asking questions until she got sick. A little late I think! I have been sitting here stalling over my patient letter for several days, dreading having to write a 10 page " research paper " . Now I can only say, I am deeply grateful that Dr. R requires us to know what we are getting ourselves into. I am glad that I am confident that this is the right move for me. Maybe I'll have problems with bile reflux too, who knows. But, maybe, I'll have no complications at all, or maybe I'll come out somewhere in the middle. Maybe I'll die. But at least with Dr. R it is a very faint maybe. With the 318 pounds that I am now schlepping around, it's a certainty. I'm sorry didn't adequately research the surgery so that she knew what all the possibilities are, but I have to say I'm glad I did. I can't wait for my dance! Cheryl in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 After several weeks of reading about LT and her claims, I finally decided to go to her web site and see for myself. What I found sounded like the ravings of a person who is ill, and I'm not talking about bile reflux. One thing did stand out to me though. evidently didn't research this surgery until after she had it. She depended on what she says Dr. R told her, but it sounds like she didn't even start asking questions until she got sick. A little late I think! I have been sitting here stalling over my patient letter for several days, dreading having to write a 10 page " research paper " . Now I can only say, I am deeply grateful that Dr. R requires us to know what we are getting ourselves into. I am glad that I am confident that this is the right move for me. Maybe I'll have problems with bile reflux too, who knows. But, maybe, I'll have no complications at all, or maybe I'll come out somewhere in the middle. Maybe I'll die. But at least with Dr. R it is a very faint maybe. With the 318 pounds that I am now schlepping around, it's a certainty. I'm sorry didn't adequately research the surgery so that she knew what all the possibilities are, but I have to say I'm glad I did. I can't wait for my dance! Cheryl in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 did more research than anyone!! She personally spoke and or wrote to 87 patients before surgery. Don't think she didn't. Her illness lies about a foot above the uppermost MGB opening! PhillyJude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 did more research than anyone!! She personally spoke and or wrote to 87 patients before surgery. Don't think she didn't. Her illness lies about a foot above the uppermost MGB opening! PhillyJude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 Hi, Please don't take offense but that is definitely NOT correct.The Barrett's Esophagus is about a foot away,HOWEVER,the reason for her sickness AND the reason for her revision is because of the ULCER at the ANASTOMOSIS(new connection),so it COULD not have existed prior to her surgery.I do not agree with LT'S methods and have expressed that to her.HOWEVER it is important that pre-ops look at the research,DrR requires it.So,let's not muddy the water with conditions that existed preop,most likely.The question is simply 'DOES THE BII CAUSE ULCERS AT THE ANASTOMOSIS?'And LT has one there,and her revision is being done only because of that ulcer.BTW,all WLS has drawbacks and can be summed up best as DrR said to me ,'You are trading in one condition for another' so be PREPARED. Janet > > > > > From: >Judyh1022@... >Reply-To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >Subject: Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb >Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:02:37 EST > > did more research than anyone!! She personally spoke and or wrote to >87 >patients before surgery. Don't think she didn't. Her illness lies about a >foot above the uppermost MGB opening! PhillyJude > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 Hi, Please don't take offense but that is definitely NOT correct.The Barrett's Esophagus is about a foot away,HOWEVER,the reason for her sickness AND the reason for her revision is because of the ULCER at the ANASTOMOSIS(new connection),so it COULD not have existed prior to her surgery.I do not agree with LT'S methods and have expressed that to her.HOWEVER it is important that pre-ops look at the research,DrR requires it.So,let's not muddy the water with conditions that existed preop,most likely.The question is simply 'DOES THE BII CAUSE ULCERS AT THE ANASTOMOSIS?'And LT has one there,and her revision is being done only because of that ulcer.BTW,all WLS has drawbacks and can be summed up best as DrR said to me ,'You are trading in one condition for another' so be PREPARED. Janet > > > > > From: >Judyh1022@... >Reply-To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >Subject: Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb >Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:02:37 EST > > did more research than anyone!! She personally spoke and or wrote to >87 >patients before surgery. Don't think she didn't. Her illness lies about a >foot above the uppermost MGB opening! PhillyJude > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 yada yada yada.. Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb >Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:02:37 EST > > did more research than anyone!! She personally spoke and or wrote to >87 >patients before surgery. Don't think she didn't. Her illness lies about a >foot above the uppermost MGB opening! PhillyJude > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 yada yada yada.. Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb >Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:02:37 EST > > did more research than anyone!! She personally spoke and or wrote to >87 >patients before surgery. Don't think she didn't. Her illness lies about a >foot above the uppermost MGB opening! PhillyJude > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2000 Report Share Posted November 21, 2000 LT actually wrote me back trying to justify her preying on me / other newcomers. I also went to her website....I agree, she is not a person who is exactly stable. The reson I thought I would find something legal/offical when she sent me her mail was that one of her links said Dr. R busted...not exact wording but busted was there. I founded her email such and outrage that I deleted it. Busted to me means arrested, charges pressed etc.. I believe that no one intentionally makes a mistake , and that people just do the best they can. MD doesn't stand for Major Deity, or even a Minor One, and no matter what procedure a person has they should research it, and then not blame the doc if something goes wrong, as there are always risks..even in something natural like child birth. Believe me I know this one. Just going under anethesia puts a person at risk for death, and not waking up. I guess what I am trying to say , is be responsible for your own body and make informed choices via research before you do anything. That is what I intend to do before I dance my dance. *smile* </end Rant> Barbara Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb Exactly!!!! I thought the same thing. Where was her research? Anyone having a major surgery researches BEFORE!!!! Oh, well, I have said my piece on LT and now I am at peace. Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb After several weeks of reading about LT and her claims, I finally decided to go to her web site and see for myself. What I found sounded like the ravings of a person who is ill, and I'm not talking about bile reflux. One thing did stand out to me though. evidently didn't research this surgery until after she had it. She depended on what she says Dr. R told her, but it sounds like she didn't even start asking questions until she got sick. A little late I think! I have been sitting here stalling over my patient letter for several days, dreading having to write a 10 page " research paper " . Now I can only say, I am deeply grateful that Dr. R requires us to know what we are getting ourselves into. I am glad that I am confident that this is the right move for me. Maybe I'll have problems with bile reflux too, who knows. But, maybe, I'll have no complications at all, or maybe I'll come out somewhere in the middle. Maybe I'll die. But at least with Dr. R it is a very faint maybe. With the 318 pounds that I am now schlepping around, it's a certainty. I'm sorry didn't adequately research the surgery so that she knew what all the possibilities are, but I have to say I'm glad I did. I can't wait for my dance! Cheryl in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2000 Report Share Posted November 21, 2000 LT actually wrote me back trying to justify her preying on me / other newcomers. I also went to her website....I agree, she is not a person who is exactly stable. The reson I thought I would find something legal/offical when she sent me her mail was that one of her links said Dr. R busted...not exact wording but busted was there. I founded her email such and outrage that I deleted it. Busted to me means arrested, charges pressed etc.. I believe that no one intentionally makes a mistake , and that people just do the best they can. MD doesn't stand for Major Deity, or even a Minor One, and no matter what procedure a person has they should research it, and then not blame the doc if something goes wrong, as there are always risks..even in something natural like child birth. Believe me I know this one. Just going under anethesia puts a person at risk for death, and not waking up. I guess what I am trying to say , is be responsible for your own body and make informed choices via research before you do anything. That is what I intend to do before I dance my dance. *smile* </end Rant> Barbara Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb Exactly!!!! I thought the same thing. Where was her research? Anyone having a major surgery researches BEFORE!!!! Oh, well, I have said my piece on LT and now I am at peace. Re: Fw: http://www.fourlane.com/mgb After several weeks of reading about LT and her claims, I finally decided to go to her web site and see for myself. What I found sounded like the ravings of a person who is ill, and I'm not talking about bile reflux. One thing did stand out to me though. evidently didn't research this surgery until after she had it. She depended on what she says Dr. R told her, but it sounds like she didn't even start asking questions until she got sick. A little late I think! I have been sitting here stalling over my patient letter for several days, dreading having to write a 10 page " research paper " . Now I can only say, I am deeply grateful that Dr. R requires us to know what we are getting ourselves into. I am glad that I am confident that this is the right move for me. Maybe I'll have problems with bile reflux too, who knows. But, maybe, I'll have no complications at all, or maybe I'll come out somewhere in the middle. Maybe I'll die. But at least with Dr. R it is a very faint maybe. With the 318 pounds that I am now schlepping around, it's a certainty. I'm sorry didn't adequately research the surgery so that she knew what all the possibilities are, but I have to say I'm glad I did. I can't wait for my dance! Cheryl in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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