Re: stimming more on SCD?

May 6, 2007

Alison

We could help you if you would let us know what foods you are giving

your son. Are you doing any other treatment or combining SCD with

another diet?

What supplements are you giving?

Any store bought products?

All the best,

Mimi

> My 2.9yo son has been wiggling his fingers in front of his face a lot lately

> - a BIG increase

> in this behavior coinciding with his start on SCD (2/07), teachers and

> everyone have

> noticed it. My question is: what causes this, and could it be

> diet-related? He used to do

> this, but it had almost disappeared after 9 mos GFCF. I was guessing it

> might be die-off,

> but it's still here! Has anyone else experienced this?

> Thanks, everyone, for your help.

> Alison H.

>

May 7, 2007

My son does this when he isn't wearing his glasses. It is a depth perception

technique. Is your son wearing glasses? The diet may have altered his

prescription.

Lori

sixthblackbird wrote:

My 2.9yo son has been wiggling his fingers in front of his face a lot

lately - a BIG increase

in this behavior coinciding with his start on SCD (2/07), teachers and everyone

have

noticed it. My question is: what causes this, and could it be diet-related? He

used to do

this, but it had almost disappeared after 9 mos GFCF. I was guessing it might be

die-off,

but it's still here! Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks, everyone, for your help.

Alison H.

May 7, 2007

My son who has autism stims by wiggling his fingers in front of his face. He

does it more if he is uncomfortable, not feeling well, or upset. I don't know

if that would be related.

Best,

lori choruby wrote:

My son does this when he isn't wearing his glasses. It is a depth

perception technique. Is your son wearing glasses? The diet may have altered his

prescription.

Lori

sixthblackbird wrote:

My 2.9yo son has been wiggling his fingers in front of his face a lot lately - a

BIG increase

in this behavior coinciding with his start on SCD (2/07), teachers and everyone

have

noticed it. My question is: what causes this, and could it be diet-related? He

used to do

this, but it had almost disappeared after 9 mos GFCF. I was guessing it might be

die-off,

but it's still here! Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks, everyone, for your help.

Alison H.

May 7, 2007

My ASD son does it for no apparent reason, kinda hums and bounces them a little.

He never does it related to anything, usually riding in the car or just walking

around the house or yard. I thought it may be some sort of visual stimming and

that maybe it was due to a vitamin A deficiency. After we started CLO (green

pastures) I thought it would stop but it hasn't. If you figure it out I'd LOVE

to know what makes it decrease.

Becky

Lake wrote:

My son who has autism stims by wiggling his fingers in front of his

face. He does it more if he is uncomfortable, not feeling well, or upset. I

don't know if that would be related.

Best,

lori choruby wrote:

My son does this when he isn't wearing his glasses. It is a depth perception

technique. Is your son wearing glasses? The diet may have altered his

prescription.

Lori

sixthblackbird wrote:

My 2.9yo son has been wiggling his fingers in front of his face a lot lately - a

BIG increase

in this behavior coinciding with his start on SCD (2/07), teachers and everyone

have

noticed it. My question is: what causes this, and could it be diet-related? He

used to do

this, but it had almost disappeared after 9 mos GFCF. I was guessing it might be

die-off,

but it's still here! Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks, everyone, for your help.

Alison H.

May 7, 2007

This is what he eats:

roast chicken w/ herbes de provence, garlic, safflower oil, kosher salt

chicken broth made from bones/skin of above w/ carrots

butternut squash made into pancakes or muffins w/ eggs, a little honey,

cinnamon (sometimes use Cascadian frozen squash)

scrambled eggs cooked in safflower oil, salt

peeled, seeded, cooked until soft pears

" " " pineapple

" " " asian pears

Cascadian frozen organic green peas

" " green beans cooked in marjoram, thyme & basil, safflower oil

chicken or pork pancakes cooked in safflower oil (may have pears or not)

grilled steak or hamburger cut in small pieces w/ salt

pork chops or roast pork cut in small pieces cooked w/ garlic, ground

coriander, salt, cumin

chayote, yellow or zucchini squash cooked in herbs, salt & oil

avocado

sometimes approx. 1/3 Kirkman Just Pears w/ Calcium bar

occasionally a few bites of cooked mango or golden delicious apple

occasionally squash pancakes have 1/2 squash, 1/2 white beans, soaked &

cooked as directed

He drinks:

Dole canned pineapple juice

Welch's white grape juice

Knudsen pear juice

(all mixed 1/2 & 1/2 w/ water)

Supplements daily:

Nu Thera w/ P5P - 1/2 capsule

No-Fenol powder - 1/4 t. w/ phenolic foods

Kirkman EnZym Complete/DPPIV - approx. 1/3 capsule w/ meals

Kirkman Calcium powder w/ Vitamin D - 1/2 t.

TwinLab Norwegian Cod Liver Oil, unflavored - 1/2 t.

Treatments/therapies:

PT, OT, speech, ABA

he has been GFCF for 10 mos. now

banana, corn-free for 7 mos.

tomato, soy-free for 5 mos.

my husband & DAN Dr. want to chelate him ASAP - have to do urine

challenge 1st

he showed no yeast in his stool samples when tested, but DAN said he

saw evidence of yeast in his blood under microscope

epsom salt baths seem to help, we have one every other day at least

He seems to have difficulty with high phenol foods - apples, carrots,

most colorful foods (which he loves)

Cannot tolerate - tomatoes, bananas

If any more info. would help, please let me know - had worst stimming

day ever, now he makes humming, squealing sounds to go along with the

movement.

Also, someone mentioned glasses - we saw a developmental optometrist

who prescribed him prism lenses (he's also farsighted). At first, they

stopped the finger play, but now it's returned worse than ever.

Thanks, everyone, for your help.

May 8, 2007

I see a couple of things right off the bat without researching some of the

things you're giving him. The pear juice is not SCD legal. You can only use

the Knudsen juices that say Just Juice. For example, Just Black Cherry, Just

Cranberry, Just Concord Grape, and so on. If it is called something else, you

cannot use it. I'm not sure about the pear bars from Kirkman. They might not

be SCD legal, or they could have ingredients that he just can't tolerate right

now. Can you post the ingredients? The herbs de province are not legal either.

Herb or spice mixtures are not legal because they add starch to them. You can

use herbs and spices that come in a bottle with just that herb in them. This

expludes garlic powder, garlic salt, onion powder, onion salt, lemon pepper, and