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In a message dated 3/27/00 9:25:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, lpatric@...

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<< I suggested that Alan get a second test.

Anybody, with any thoughts on this is welcome to offer their insite.

Thank you in advance.

Lawrence >>

I suggest he doesn't waste his money on a second test andinstead starts

treatment. I sent you off-list a meg-list of links on Lyme. If I was

initially diagnosed with MS and then changed to LYme, I would definitely give

antibiotics a go...if your friend wants to spend more money on lab testing, I

def suggest testing for co-infections that are also tick-borne such as

babesiosis, and HGE,HME (Human granulocytic erlichioisis, human monocytic

erlichiosis. Personally I would not doubt the lab work for a second. Instead

focus your energies on investigating adequete treatment for your friend. Good

Luck to your friend. He is lucky to have a friend like you trying to dig up

more info...Bernadette

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lawrence......what a good friend u are......the ?'s igenex is considered by

the lyme community to be one of the best labs available for lyme

testing.....what test's were done on ur friend there?....was one a urine test?

qustion 2...

lyme is a problem in all states and even in foreign countries...we have

members of our group from france and england......while colorado may not have

as many cases as NJ or other endemic states ....yes there are cases there....

one last note.... LYME IS A CLINICAL DIAGNOSES....THRU SYMPTOMS .... while

there are some false pos tests......the main problem is tottally inacurate

testing .....at best 50 % asccurate.....and most of that is false neg

testing......i recomend that u go to

www.lymealliance.org

on there u will find a complete list of lyme symptoms.....while the joint

pain and fatigue are well known there are many other symptoms......print it

out and let ur frined compare.....sorry about the spelling .....i have bad

hands thru lyme and it is hard to type somedays....everyone here is use to

it....

Reid

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In a message dated 3/27/00 9:25:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, lpatric@...

writes:

<< I suggested that Alan get a second test.

Anybody, with any thoughts on this is welcome to offer their insite.

Thank you in advance.

Lawrence >>

I suggest he doesn't waste his money on a second test andinstead starts

treatment. I sent you off-list a meg-list of links on Lyme. If I was

initially diagnosed with MS and then changed to LYme, I would definitely give

antibiotics a go...if your friend wants to spend more money on lab testing, I

def suggest testing for co-infections that are also tick-borne such as

babesiosis, and HGE,HME (Human granulocytic erlichioisis, human monocytic

erlichiosis. Personally I would not doubt the lab work for a second. Instead

focus your energies on investigating adequete treatment for your friend. Good

Luck to your friend. He is lucky to have a friend like you trying to dig up

more info...Bernadette

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Hi Lawrence,

I believe the lab you are referring to is IGeneX in California, here is their web site: http://www.igenex.com/

They are considered a good lab in the Lyme disease community.

I would hazard a guess that your friend does not have MS at all, rather neurological problems from Lyme disease, but I am no doctor and I am working with only the information you provided. Many of us with Lyme disease do not recall our tick bite, and are often misdiagnosed with MS, Fibromyalgia, Lupus, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Lou Gehrig's disease and more. Lyme is mainly a clinical dx based on symptoms as the tests are very unreliable.

I know Bernadette sent you lots of links, I don't know if she sent this one:

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/6772/ms-index.html

Lyme disease misdx'd as MS

and as to your question regarding Lyme in Colorado, here is another informative link:

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/6772/colorado-index.html

Lyme and other tick diseases are world wide, and the Lyme disease is the second fastest growing disease nationwide, second only to AIDS. I hope your friend can convince his doctor to treat his Lyme disease with antibiotics, if not, he should look for another more literate physician. I also hope these resources give you an understanding of LD and you are a good friend to do this for your buddy. I wish you both well.

Marta

>From: lpatric@...>>I just received word that a good friend of mine in Denver has been>diagnosed with Lymes spirochetes. Alan also has multiple sclerosis>and has been battling that disease for a few years now. Because of>the debilitating nature of MS, Alan has asked me to do some leg work>for him. He posed two questions for me this morning.>>1. The lab that diagnosed him: Lggenics (California)>Is it credible etc...?>I found some research that suggested that 25% of diagnosis are false>positives....>>2. Is lyme disease prevalent in Colorado?>>I found a great deal of inf. online but most of it is very clinical>oriented. I suggested that Alan get a second test.>Anybody, with any thoughts on this is welcome to offer their insite.>Thank you in advance.>>Lawrence

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lawrence......what a good friend u are......the ?'s igenex is considered by

the lyme community to be one of the best labs available for lyme

testing.....what test's were done on ur friend there?....was one a urine test?

qustion 2...

lyme is a problem in all states and even in foreign countries...we have

members of our group from france and england......while colorado may not have

as many cases as NJ or other endemic states ....yes there are cases there....

one last note.... LYME IS A CLINICAL DIAGNOSES....THRU SYMPTOMS .... while

there are some false pos tests......the main problem is tottally inacurate

testing .....at best 50 % asccurate.....and most of that is false neg

testing......i recomend that u go to

www.lymealliance.org

on there u will find a complete list of lyme symptoms.....while the joint

pain and fatigue are well known there are many other symptoms......print it

out and let ur frined compare.....sorry about the spelling .....i have bad

hands thru lyme and it is hard to type somedays....everyone here is use to

it....

Reid

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Hi Lawrence,

I believe the lab you are referring to is IGeneX in California, here is their web site: http://www.igenex.com/

They are considered a good lab in the Lyme disease community.

I would hazard a guess that your friend does not have MS at all, rather neurological problems from Lyme disease, but I am no doctor and I am working with only the information you provided. Many of us with Lyme disease do not recall our tick bite, and are often misdiagnosed with MS, Fibromyalgia, Lupus, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Lou Gehrig's disease and more. Lyme is mainly a clinical dx based on symptoms as the tests are very unreliable.

I know Bernadette sent you lots of links, I don't know if she sent this one:

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/6772/ms-index.html

Lyme disease misdx'd as MS

and as to your question regarding Lyme in Colorado, here is another informative link:

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/6772/colorado-index.html

Lyme and other tick diseases are world wide, and the Lyme disease is the second fastest growing disease nationwide, second only to AIDS. I hope your friend can convince his doctor to treat his Lyme disease with antibiotics, if not, he should look for another more literate physician. I also hope these resources give you an understanding of LD and you are a good friend to do this for your buddy. I wish you both well.

Marta

>From: lpatric@...>>I just received word that a good friend of mine in Denver has been>diagnosed with Lymes spirochetes. Alan also has multiple sclerosis>and has been battling that disease for a few years now. Because of>the debilitating nature of MS, Alan has asked me to do some leg work>for him. He posed two questions for me this morning.>>1. The lab that diagnosed him: Lggenics (California)>Is it credible etc...?>I found some research that suggested that 25% of diagnosis are false>positives....>>2. Is lyme disease prevalent in Colorado?>>I found a great deal of inf. online but most of it is very clinical>oriented. I suggested that Alan get a second test.>Anybody, with any thoughts on this is welcome to offer their insite.>Thank you in advance.>>Lawrence

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Hi Donna-

Like what sort of books, video's etc.. on JRA or related issues or ?? I just

need more clarification on this.

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Can anyone comment regarding any research articles you have found from

journals, etc regarding apraxia of speech and essential fatty acids

(omega 3's and omega 6's)? Thanks in advance.

Alan F. , MS, CCC/SLP

Speech-Language Pathologist

Liberty Elementary School

606.787.6961

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google Dr. and Marilyn Agin, MD. They did a joint

study in May 2007. Dr. is presenting something this year if it

gets approved. Fish oil is generally mentioned for dyspraxia in The

LCP Solution by Dr. Stordy as well.

>

> Can anyone comment regarding any research articles you have found

from

> journals, etc regarding apraxia of speech and essential fatty acids

> (omega 3's and omega 6's)? Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

> Alan F. , MS, CCC/SLP

>

> Speech-Language Pathologist

>

> Liberty Elementary School

>

> 606.787.6961

>

>

>

> This email communication and any attachments may contain

confidential

> and privileged information for the use of the designated

recipients. If

> you have received this communication by mistake, please destroy and

> contact the sender.

>

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http://www.dyspraxiafoundation.org.uk/professionals/rs_ajr.php

The potential role of fatty acids in developmental dyspraxia - Can

dietary supplementation help?

The predisposition to dyspraxia and related conditions may involve

mild constitutional inefficiencies of fatty acid metabolism that

increase the usual dietary requirements for HUFA. These could include

(a) poor EFA-HUFA conversion, (B) difficulties in incorporating HUFA

into brain cell membranes and/or © unusually high rates of HUFA

breakdown and loss, although there are other possible mechanisms.

http://www.fabresearch.org/view_item.aspx?item_id=456

Fatty Acids in Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, ADHD and the Autistic Spectrum -

An Overview

Date: 2003 Dr , Senior Research Fellow, Mansfield

College & University Lab. of Physiology, Oxford

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FINDING THE GREATEST COMMON DENOMINATOR

http://www.speechville.com/alternative-therapy.html

Click on Essential Fatty Acids

http://www.durhamtrial.org/index.htm

Durham Research Using Fatty Acids for Learning Conditions

You can probably find more if you google dypraxia, Dr.

, and EFAs.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20050329/ai_n13480014

HEALTH: Essential mix

" What's more, some people are more susceptible to a low ratio, " says

neuroscientist Dr , a senior research fellow in

physiology at Mansfield College, Oxford, and a member of the

International Society for the Study of Fatty Acids and Lipids. " And

some people may also have an in-built inefficiency in their

conversion process, making them even more susceptible to

deficiencies. Symptoms of low omega-3 status, which we know can

affect neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin in the brain,

can include mental health problems ranging from depression, mood

swings and anxiety to behavioural problems like ADHD, dyslexia and

dyspraxia. "

Hope these are helpful,

Tina

>

> Can anyone comment regarding any research articles you have found

from

> journals, etc regarding apraxia of speech and essential fatty acids

> (omega 3's and omega 6's)? Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

> Alan F. , MS, CCC/SLP

>

> Speech-Language Pathologist

>

> Liberty Elementary School

>

> 606.787.6961

>

>

>

> This email communication and any attachments may contain

confidential

> and privileged information for the use of the designated

recipients. If

> you have received this communication by mistake, please destroy and

> contact the sender.

>

>

>

>

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I think that If I could do it again.... I would start out with a good metabolic

panel from a reputable lab rather than play the guessing game....

That way, you know for sure what your child is deficient in..... but without a

doubt, all of the kids on this board who are tested reveal low EFA's of some

sort, some Omega 3 kids.... my kid was low in all Omega 6's (but not 3) and many

of the children are low in carnitine. I spent a long time supplementing Omega 3

when I should have been supplementing Omega 6.... it was no wonder that my child

was not a fish oil responder! But... he WAS EFA deficient!

I would bet that most of the kids are also low in glutathione and possibly COQ10

and vitamin A as well. I think that all of the kids before they get labs should

start off with a good 3-6-9 oil ie. Nordic Naturals, carnitine and begin with a

moderate amount of vitamin E (and ramp up slowly). I am a little hesitant about

using too much E too fast. If they are not allergic, they could eat nuts

throughout the day to work those fats.

They should also take a high quality multi and look into dietary modifications

as well as probiotics (ThreeLac) and digestive enzymes.

But we all need to save up the money and get the biomedical metabolic labs done

for our kids.... the sooner, the better... I so regret waiting.... I spent way

too many years believing in all of the 'normal' results that mainstream medicine

produced. The metabolic panels really tell you what is happening..... while the

kids are all similiar.... they are actually all different, unique and

individual.

Note that there are a lot of similarities in the results between Wendi's child

and mine but the results between My Mark and Colleen's Charlie are very

different.... though again there are some similiarities.... We cannot

cookie-cutter our children.... they are all different. Of course both Aedin and

Mark have high lead readings and Charlie has high alluminium. Perhaps herein

lies the true difference..... what kind of metal do you have?

Note that heavy metal toxicity disable the body from absorbing nutrients

properly.... how aweful. But at least I discovered it with you girls at my

side. I don't know if I could have tackled learning all of this stuff without

all of you right there with me.... Thank you all so much. :)

Janice

[sPAM][ ] Re: Resources

google Dr. and Marilyn Agin, MD. They did a joint

study in May 2007. Dr. is presenting something this year if it

gets approved. Fish oil is generally mentioned for dyspraxia in The

LCP Solution by Dr. Stordy as well.

>

> Can anyone comment regarding any research articles you have found

from

> journals, etc regarding apraxia of speech and essential fatty acids

> (omega 3's and omega 6's)? Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

> Alan F. , MS, CCC/SLP

>

> Speech-Language Pathologist

>

> Liberty Elementary School

>

> 606.787.6961

>

>

>

> This email communication and any attachments may contain

confidential

> and privileged information for the use of the designated

recipients. If

> you have received this communication by mistake, please destroy and

> contact the sender.

>

>

>

>

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