Is there a pre-autistic stage?

[Guest guest]

I put my daughter (3 1/2) on SCD about two weeks ago. I am

seeing that a lot of kids on this forum are autistic. I would like

to ask whether there is sort of a pre-autistic stage?

Here are the reasons why I am asking:

My daughter has been biting in the past for no reasons. I know that

some foods make her behave more like the terrible 3's. She has also

done the teeth grinding at night a lot.

In addition, she suffers from night scares. She only slept 45

minutes for naps as a baby, never longer and it was always hard to

just get her to sleep.

is and was always alert, eyes open, always active.

She is gluten sensitive. Genetic link excists too. Till we took

her off milk she was never hungry. Never asked for food. No

interest in any food whatsoever. She also only weighs 27 pounds at

3.1/2 and suffers from eczema. Too calm down she plays with my ears

for a long time. Touching them over and over.

On the other side she is very social, loving, and going to preschool

is no problem.

[Guest guest]

I am not a specialist and to be sure you should always seek a professional

evaluation, but I have two teenage kids with autism. Your little sounds

like she has a lot of food sensitivities, but absolutely nothing that you wrote

sounds like autism. I have never heard of a " pre autistic " stage, but your

daughter is too old anyway. By definition, autism will have reared its ugly

head before 3 years of age. This diet was not designed for people with autism,

but many who have autism have found it extremely helpful, my kids included.

Incredible progress. Sometimes you find wonders when you come in the back door!

Hope this helps,

Lori

Mom to 11 yrs, asd, 6-mos scd

Mom to Meghan 15 years, regressive asd

foodchallenged <no_reply > wrote:

I put my daughter (3 1/2) on SCD about two weeks ago. I am

seeing that a lot of kids on this forum are autistic. I would like

to ask whether there is sort of a pre-autistic stage?

Here are the reasons why I am asking:

My daughter has been biting in the past for no reasons. I know that

some foods make her behave more like the terrible 3's. She has also

done the teeth grinding at night a lot.

In addition, she suffers from night scares. She only slept 45

minutes for naps as a baby, never longer and it was always hard to

just get her to sleep.

is and was always alert, eyes open, always active.

She is gluten sensitive. Genetic link excists too. Till we took

her off milk she was never hungry. Never asked for food. No

interest in any food whatsoever. She also only weighs 27 pounds at

3.1/2 and suffers from eczema. Too calm down she plays with my ears

for a long time. Touching them over and over.

On the other side she is very social, loving, and going to preschool

is no problem.

[Guest guest]

I agree, if your daughter is social and communicating, it doesn't sound like she

has autism. But for sure, some other sensitivities and worth a check up with a

pediatrician for their opinion.

lori choruby wrote:

I am not a specialist and to be sure you should always seek a

professional evaluation, but I have two teenage kids with autism. Your little

sounds like she has a lot of food sensitivities, but absolutely nothing

that you wrote sounds like autism. I have never heard of a " pre autistic " stage,

but your daughter is too old anyway. By definition, autism will have reared its

ugly head before 3 years of age. This diet was not designed for people with

autism, but many who have autism have found it extremely helpful, my kids

included. Incredible progress. Sometimes you find wonders when you come in the

back door!

Hope this helps,

Lori

Mom to 11 yrs, asd, 6-mos scd

Mom to Meghan 15 years, regressive asd

foodchallenged <no_reply > wrote:

I put my daughter (3 1/2) on SCD about two weeks ago. I am

seeing that a lot of kids on this forum are autistic. I would like

to ask whether there is sort of a pre-autistic stage?

Here are the reasons why I am asking:

My daughter has been biting in the past for no reasons. I know that

some foods make her behave more like the terrible 3's. She has also

done the teeth grinding at night a lot.

In addition, she suffers from night scares. She only slept 45

minutes for naps as a baby, never longer and it was always hard to

just get her to sleep.

is and was always alert, eyes open, always active.

She is gluten sensitive. Genetic link excists too. Till we took

her off milk she was never hungry. Never asked for food. No

interest in any food whatsoever. She also only weighs 27 pounds at

3.1/2 and suffers from eczema. Too calm down she plays with my ears

for a long time. Touching them over and over.

On the other side she is very social, loving, and going to preschool

is no problem.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Our son does not have full blown Autism (for that we are grateful), but he does

have Asperger's Syndrome which is an Autism Spectrum Disorder. They say he is a

very high functioning autistic or has a dash of autism. There are different

classifications in the Autism Spectrum including full blown Autism to a 'dash of

autism'. We suspected something was wrong in kindergarten but didn't figure it

out completely until first grade. He was very social when is was smaller but

fell behind the other kids' social development so that when he reached 1st grade

it was very apparent that something was wrong. We also have a history of gluten

intolerance on both sides of the family as well as dairy intolerance. When he

was smaller he snuggled with me excessively. He didn't go to bed with out

snuggling until he was at least 4 and still wants us to lay down with him at 7.

He grinds his teeth at night. He is very emotional. He has a hard time reading

social cues and body language.

He was getting explosive before we put him on the gf/cf diet and plan to start

the SCD in 1 week. So, a child can have a dash of Autism with out having it

full blown, like our child.

Marcia

lori choruby wrote: I

am not a specialist and to be sure you should always seek a professional

evaluation, but I have two teenage kids with autism. Your little sounds

like she has a lot of food sensitivities, but absolutely nothing that you wrote

sounds like autism. I have never heard of a " pre autistic " stage, but your

daughter is too old anyway. By definition, autism will have reared its ugly

head before 3 years of age. This diet was not designed for people with autism,

but many who have autism have found it extremely helpful, my kids included.

Incredible progress. Sometimes you find wonders when you come in the back door!

Hope this helps,

Lori

Mom to 11 yrs, asd, 6-mos scd

Mom to Meghan 15 years, regressive asd

foodchallenged <no_reply > wrote:

I put my daughter (3 1/2) on SCD about two weeks ago. I am

seeing that a lot of kids on this forum are autistic. I would like

to ask whether there is sort of a pre-autistic stage?

Here are the reasons why I am asking:

My daughter has been biting in the past for no reasons. I know that

some foods make her behave more like the terrible 3's. She has also

done the teeth grinding at night a lot.

In addition, she suffers from night scares. She only slept 45

minutes for naps as a baby, never longer and it was always hard to

just get her to sleep.

is and was always alert, eyes open, always active.

She is gluten sensitive. Genetic link excists too. Till we took

her off milk she was never hungry. Never asked for food. No

interest in any food whatsoever. She also only weighs 27 pounds at

3.1/2 and suffers from eczema. Too calm down she plays with my ears

for a long time. Touching them over and over.

On the other side she is very social, loving, and going to preschool

is no problem.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm new to this so not sure how to post. Sorry if you get this twice.

We didn't find out that my son was on the Autism spectrum until he

was 6 (1st grade). He's now 7. He was very social and loved other

kids. He had no problem with eye contact unless he was very angry or

emotional. He loved to snuggle, excessively. Rocked him to sleep

until he was 4. Still wants us to snuggle with him. Had problems

with him biting others some but we addressed that. Was obsessed with

wheels going round and round. Started noticing some problematic

behaviors around 3 and they increased as he got older. Suspected

something was wrong in kindergarten but teacher said he's just a very

energetic boy. First grade he had fallen behind the other kids social

development by quite a bit and the school suggested that he has

Asperger's Syndrome -- very highly functioning autistic / a dash of

autism. His social development is impaired and he has problems with

emotional outbursts and anger. We put him on gf/cf diet after we

found out (around christmas) which has helped a lot. We also had to

remove phenols from his diet (mostly colored fruit). He eats pear

sauce and very ripe bananas and golden delicious apples. If he eats

highly phenolic foods he gets very emotional and angry. That's why we

are beginning the SCD diet in 1 week. We are hoping that as his gut

heals he will be able to tolerate some more of the fruits. So, a

person can be on the Autism Spectrum with out having severy Autism.

There are different classifications along the Spectrum and I would say

that between the age of 3 and 7 my son did get worse as far as

emotional explosiveness goes and relating to his peers socially.

Marcia

>

> I put my daughter (3 1/2) on SCD about two weeks ago. I am

> seeing that a lot of kids on this forum are autistic. I would like

> to ask whether there is sort of a pre-autistic stage?

>

> Here are the reasons why I am asking:

>

> My daughter has been biting in the past for no reasons. I know that

> some foods make her behave more like the terrible 3's. She has also

> done the teeth grinding at night a lot.

>

> In addition, she suffers from night scares. She only slept 45

> minutes for naps as a baby, never longer and it was always hard to

> just get her to sleep.

>

> is and was always alert, eyes open, always active.

> She is gluten sensitive. Genetic link excists too. Till we took

> her off milk she was never hungry. Never asked for food. No

> interest in any food whatsoever. She also only weighs 27 pounds at

> 3.1/2 and suffers from eczema. Too calm down she plays with my ears

> for a long time. Touching them over and over.

> On the other side she is very social, loving, and going to preschool

> is no problem.

>

[Guest guest]

This sounds a lot like my son when he was younger. She sound more

like Aspergers, which is on the autistic spectrum but they can

socilaize some, and they can go to school and funtion. But you will

notice " quirky' traits, like the biting. My son is 12 and to this

day still plays with his ear and he used to play with mine and

anyone else if they were around. He told me it calms him. I believe

she may have more of a central nervous sytems " dysfunction, which

could be sensory integrartion dysfunction.Occupational therapy, and

cranio-sacral work really helped my son.And diet improved it as

well. He never plays with anyone's ears( but he is now 12, so I'm

sure he figured that out on his own!) and he only rarely fiddles

with his own. This and the biting are sensory -seeking traits,

easily reduced or elimatd with occuptional therapy.

But the diet will also help as some foods seems to aggravate the

condition.

Hope that helps,

>

> I put my daughter (3 1/2) on SCD about two weeks ago. I am

> seeing that a lot of kids on this forum are autistic. I would

like

> to ask whether there is sort of a pre-autistic stage?

>

> Here are the reasons why I am asking:

>

> My daughter has been biting in the past for no reasons. I know

that

> some foods make her behave more like the terrible 3's. She has

also

> done the teeth grinding at night a lot.

>

> In addition, she suffers from night scares. She only slept 45

> minutes for naps as a baby, never longer and it was always hard to

> just get her to sleep.

>

> is and was always alert, eyes open, always active.

> She is gluten sensitive. Genetic link excists too. Till we took

> her off milk she was never hungry. Never asked for food. No

> interest in any food whatsoever. She also only weighs 27 pounds

at

> 3.1/2 and suffers from eczema. Too calm down she plays with my

ears

> for a long time. Touching them over and over.

> On the other side she is very social, loving, and going to

preschool

> is no problem.

>