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In a message dated 99-07-18 09:29:34 EDT, you write:

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You can call and order it from Summers Laboratories at

1-800-533-skin or check out their website at www.summerslab.com

The product is called DermaNail Nail Conditioner. It takes at

least six to eight weeks to see any improvement, but it was

amazing how much better and healthier my nails are now. I also

had PA problems in my toenails and I use this product on them and

it has helped tremendously. You use it twice a day...it is just

a clear liquid...no mess at all. I usually order two at a time

for convenience. >>

I didn't really know I had PA until 3 1/2 yrs. ago. And I have very few if

any P areas.. I sure do have the PA and am on all the pred,meth, plaq, folic

acid, celebrex and am doing just fine. However, I've had acrylic nail for 10

yrs. I used to pick my nail or bite them so decided to have the acrylic put

on. During that time I had fungus in about 7 diff nails at different times

and would lose the nail and when the new one came out enough I'd have a new

nail put on. I am a nurse so would keep it cleaned out and put anti fungul

liq on it and it would be fine. Never thought about it being related to P.

I also have it in both big toes and get it cleared up. I met a neighbor and

her fingers looked odd and then realized she had real sausage fingers.

This lady said she never has any pain like arthritis. I am learning finally

what all of you are talking about. Am thankful for the way I an as so many of

you suffer so much in having to go through so much to get your skin cleared

up the best you can. God Bless you. My prayers are with all of you and

thanks for all your input and info. Betty in Va.

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Hi,

Mine are just an off color with a yellowish tint...I don't mean like a bright

canary yellow or anything like that. I think some of the others in the group

have mentioned it about theirs. And it happens gradually, I've had PS since 76,

and PA for about 5 years. I'm just now really noticing it and I don't think it's

because of diet. I think it's probably caused from P and A combination. I'm no

expert so check with the others also.

Donna

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In a message dated 12/15/04 11:20:17 AM Central Standard Time,

costello@... writes:

After four months on my new diet free of wheat, my nails are almost fully

attached to the nail beds.

Ks Di

Things that make you go hmmm. My nails improved significantly while I was

driving that truck and I assumed that it was cause I was out in the sun a few

hours at a time several days a week but I wasnt eating bread much like I would

grab a sandwich at home. I did still eat crackers during that time though. Orin

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In a message dated 12/16/2004 6:10:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,

orinok@... writes:

After four months on my new diet free of wheat, my nails are almost fully

attached to the nail beds.

Ks Di

Ks Di...I am so glad its working for you! When I was wheat free, my nails

got a little better but not that dramatically. But I know I felt better

overall...once Christmas (and all its related goodies) is over I am going to

try

wheat free again...

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The only thing that helped my nails is Enbrel. For me PA primarily affects

my hands. I can actually gauge how much Enbrel I should be taking by the

condition of my nails. Deteriorated nails are a pretty good indicator for

active disease. By then I have more stiffness and pain of course but if you

have permanent joint damage like me sometimes its hard to determine what is

just there and forever and what is an accelerating flare as far as soreness

and stiffness goes. If they start to recede I do the injections more

frequently. Also the more I use my hands the more affected they are so I

don't work with my hands like I used to. Writing extensively seems to

really aggravate my thumb.

Re: [ ] Nails

My nails improved tremendously for the first 6 months

I was on MTX and Folbee (mega-dose of folic acid and B vitamins). Then I

flared up, and my nails started cracking and peeling again, despite the

treatment remaining the same.

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> The coorelation with liver cirrhosis is scary. She is 5 and 38 pounds

> and does take 100mg of Kirkman Milk Thistle daily.

I really can't help much, except that I use 350mg milk thistle per day.

You can check that description against the other two nail links I have

on my site, see if there might be another reason for it.

http://www.skinatlas.com/nails.htm

http://www.pathlights.com/nr_encyclopedia/03extr02.htm

Dana

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Dear Melinda,

It's really hard to make a diagnosis just seeing a picture... you need to go

to an M.D. and ask for laboratory test.

The doctor will perform a detailed medical history, x Rays and liver test as

transaminases, phosphatases bilirrubine, and other test that can make the

diagnosis. Cirrosis is completelly treatable, and reversible to normal

working of the liver... Here in Mexico we use with great recovering results,

and it's natural derived from plants, name LEGALON. If you need more info

pleaee let me know.

M.D.

On 1/28/07, danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

>

>

> > The coorelation with liver cirrhosis is scary. She is 5 and 38 pounds

> > and does take 100mg of Kirkman Milk Thistle daily.

>

> I really can't help much, except that I use 350mg milk thistle per day.

>

> You can check that description against the other two nail links I have

> on my site, see if there might be another reason for it.

>

> http://www.skinatlas.com/nails.htm

>

> http://www.pathlights.com/nr_encyclopedia/03extr02.htm

>

> Dana

>

>

>

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M.D.

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Dear Melinda,

It's really hard to make a diagnosis just seeing a picture... you need

to go to an M.D. and ask for laboratory test.

The doctor will perform a detailed medical history, x Rays and liver

test as transaminases, phosphatases bilirrubine, and other test that

can make the diagnosis. Cirrosis is completelly treatable, and

reversible to normal working of the liver... Here in Mexico we use

with great recovering results, and it's natural derived from plants,

name LEGALON. If you need more info pleaee let me know.

M.D.

>

> My daughters nails have started looking like this picture.

> http://dermnetnz.org/common/image.php?path=/hair-nails-

> sweat/img/terry.jpg

>

> The site label for this picuture is as follows: Terry's nails

> Seen in liver cirrhosis. White proximal nail, reddened distal nail

>

> I would describe her nail as reddened distal nail. She has dark red

> lines just below the tip of her finger nails.

>

> The coorelation with liver cirrhosis is scary. She is 5 and 38 pounds

> and does take 100mg of Kirkman Milk Thistle daily.

>

> We are chelating and working on viral issues.

>

> Does anyone have any experience with this and what I should look into.

> Thanks, Melinda

>

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Legalon---otherwise known as.....Milk Thistle? Milk Thistle is great as well as

phosphatidylcholine.

[ ] Re: Nails

Dear Melinda,

It's really hard to make a diagnosis just seeing a picture... you need

to go to an M.D. and ask for laboratory test.

The doctor will perform a detailed medical history, x Rays and liver

test as transaminases, phosphatases bilirrubine, and other test that

can make the diagnosis. Cirrosis is completelly treatable, and

reversible to normal working of the liver... Here in Mexico we use

with great recovering results, and it's natural derived from plants,

name LEGALON. If you need more info pleaee let me know.

M.D.

>

> My daughters nails have started looking like this picture.

> http://dermnetnz.org/common/image.php?path=/hair-nails-

> sweat/img/terry.jpg

>

> The site label for this picuture is as follows: Terry's nails

> Seen in liver cirrhosis. White proximal nail, reddened distal nail

>

> I would describe her nail as reddened distal nail. She has dark red

> lines just below the tip of her finger nails.

>

> The coorelation with liver cirrhosis is scary. She is 5 and 38 pounds

> and does take 100mg of Kirkman Milk Thistle daily.

>

> We are chelating and working on viral issues.

>

> Does anyone have any experience with this and what I should look into.

> Thanks, Melinda

>

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Nope, its:

ALTANA PHARMA S.A. DE C.V.

* *

Av. Primero de Mayo, Núm. 130, Industrial Atoto 53519, Naucalpan de Juárez,

Estado de México.

Tel: 5387-9330

Fax: 5359-0108

www.altana-pharma.com.mx

------------------------------

LEGALON

------------------------------

*Grageas

*

SILIMARINA

FORMA FARMACÉUTICA Y FORMULACIÓN Cada gragea contiene:

Silimarina............................. 70 mg

Excipiente, c.b.p. 1 gragea.

INDICACIONES TERAPÉUTICAS Coadyuvante en los padecimientos que cursan con

hepatitis aguda y crónica, hepatitis alcohólica, esteatosis hepática y cirrosis

hepática.

CONTRAINDICACIONES Hipersensibilidad al principio activo.

DOSIS Y VÍA DE ADMINISTRACIÓN Oral.

Al iniciar el tratamiento en adultos, 2 grageas tres veces al día después de

los alimentos. Como dosis de sostén se podrá administrar una gragea tres

veces al día. En niños mayores de un año, 1 gragea tres veces al día, en

cirrosis hepática 2 grageas 3 veces al día. La duración del tratamiento

depende del padecimiento base en el que se ha indicado. Podrá administrarse

por tiempo indefinido ya que no tiene efecto acumulativo ni tóxico.

PRESENTACIÓN Caja con 20 grageas.

On 1/28/07, Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote:

>

> Legalon---otherwise known as.....Milk Thistle? Milk Thistle is great as

> well as phosphatidylcholine.

>

>

>

>

> [ ] Re: Nails

>

> Dear Melinda,

> It's really hard to make a diagnosis just seeing a picture... you need

> to go to an M.D. and ask for laboratory test.

> The doctor will perform a detailed medical history, x Rays and liver

> test as transaminases, phosphatases bilirrubine, and other test that

> can make the diagnosis. Cirrosis is completelly treatable, and

> reversible to normal working of the liver... Here in Mexico we use

> with great recovering results, and it's natural derived from plants,

> name LEGALON. If you need more info pleaee let me know.

> M.D.

>

>

> >

> > My daughters nails have started looking like this picture.

> > http://dermnetnz.org/common/image.php?path=/hair-nails-

> > sweat/img/terry.jpg

> >

> > The site label for this picuture is as follows: Terry's nails

> > Seen in liver cirrhosis. White proximal nail, reddened distal nail

> >

> > I would describe her nail as reddened distal nail. She has dark red

> > lines just below the tip of her finger nails.

> >

> > The coorelation with liver cirrhosis is scary. She is 5 and 38 pounds

> > and does take 100mg of Kirkman Milk Thistle daily.

> >

> > We are chelating and working on viral issues.

> >

> > Does anyone have any experience with this and what I should look into.

> > Thanks, Melinda

> >

>

>

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> > My daughters nails have started looking like this picture.

> > http://dermnetnz.org/common/image.php?path=/hair-nails-

> > sweat/img/terry.jpg

> >

> > The site label for this picuture is as follows: Terry's nails

> > Seen in liver cirrhosis. White proximal nail, reddened distal nail

> >

> > I would describe her nail as reddened distal nail. She has dark

red

Nope, its:

ALTANA PHARMA S.A. DE C.V.

Av. Primero de Mayo, Núm. 130, Industrial Atoto 53519, Naucalpan de

Juárez, Estado de México.

Tel: 5387-9330

Fax: 5359-0108

www.altana-pharma.com.mx <http://www.altana-pharma.com.mx/>

LEGALONGrageas

SILIMARINA

FORMA FARMACÉUTICA Y FORMULACIà " N Cada gragea contiene:

Silimarina............................. 70 mg

Excipiente, c.b.p. 1 gragea.

INDICACIONES TERAPÉUTICAS Coadyuvante en los padecimientos que

cursan con hepatitis aguda y crónica, hepatitis alcohólica,

esteatosis hepática y cirrosis hepática.

CONTRAINDICACIONES Hipersensibilidad al principio activo.

DOSIS Y VÃA DE ADMINISTRACIÃ " N Oral.

Al iniciar el tratamiento en adultos, 2 grageas tres veces al día

después de los alimentos. Como dosis de sostén se podrá

administrar una gragea tres veces al día. En niños mayores de un

año, 1 gragea tres veces al día, en cirrosis hepática 2

grageas 3 veces al día. La duración del tratamiento depende del

padecimiento base en el que se ha indicado. Podrá administrarse por

tiempo indefinido ya que no tiene efecto acumulativo ni tóxico.

> > lines just below the tip of her finger nails.

> >

> > The coorelation with liver cirrhosis is scary. She is 5 and 38

pounds

> > and does take 100mg of Kirkman Milk Thistle daily.

> >

> > We are chelating and working on viral issues.

> >

> > Does anyone have any experience with this and what I should look

into.

> > Thanks, Melinda

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi

I was just watching Dr. Usmans lecture (again) and she said, " what spots on

nails, zinc deficincy, vertical lines on nails, fatty acid deficiency "

Just thought I'd add this to the 'nail' topic

Janice

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Maybe you just have Psoriasis? That can cause nail problems by itself.

Common symptoms are brittle nails, ridges, nails that are discolored or easily

break.

Stay Well,

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I am so glad that someone has brought this up! My daughter's nails are horrible

and the nails on her left foot are getting bad too. The derm said that there is

nothing for her, although I was putting on some of her topicals around the

cuticle area and I tried putting some under the nail when it seperated to get to

the bed that was still attached. It did help a little bit. After that, I just

cut the nail back so that it won't get caught and tear off.

I am worried about the fact that she may get PA, as it has not happened yet

that I know of, she has large joints anyway. The one thing that I have been

pondering was going gluten free as some others here have posted. I have read

that it can change a lot of some other issues to a persons health. I am kind of

hoping that it would get rid of the psoriasis. She is only 6% covered on her

body, but that is enough to make her feel self concious and she is only eight.

The pitting and waves started this past fall.

Anyone have anything new to add for the nail p I would LOVE to hear it!

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My toenails were diagnosed as fungus twice! One time was a podiatrist. My

favorite response is that it was " cured " both times with Enbrel. What more

definitive proof that it's part of my PsA is there?

Janette

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