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Hi Heidi

Thanks I have read both of those things you posted.

I do not have pain all over my body or worse in mornign etc. I have

spoken to my mum

She has done soem investigating with a specialist pain clinc here.

They asked her was this guy a foreigner? eg and how long was he here?

Yes he is, they have seen this stuff happen before with them.

I never signed any consents for any procedures and they said it

would never happen in the rest of NZ.

They were appalled that he suggested shock treatment an dmultiple

epidurals and blind tests.

they have said to challenge what he has done take an advocate in, go

see head of hospital, and then go to them for a referral. They will

take me.

I cried when my mum posted me answers to my questions,at last

someone was helping me.

They believe that I have a case for medical damages from previous

surgeries and question the ethics here in these tests.

They also said it is not appropriate that I have been like this for

6 years

I had signed no consents for these tests, and he repeatedly told me

he would tell me what drugs etc and explain, which the other day

when I asked what drug which one, he would not tell me

so, I am going to get a list of questiosn together and my mum will

come with me. to see head of pain team. then I will get a refrral to

the other clinic.

Debs

> Debs,

>

> So he's saying that you have Fibromyalgia? That's what " the wind

up "

> with central sensitization pain memory relates to.

>

> Here are two interesting articles that discuss this:

>

> http://www.fmaware.org/doctor/bennettpain.htm

>

> http://www.fmpartnership.org/Staud2002.htm

>

> Not saying that I agree with this assessment, but that's what he's

> referring to. Fibromylagia's no piece of cake, either. Those

> patients need narcotic help all the time to handle their pain.

>

> With love, hope and prayers,

> Heidi

>

> Heidi H. Griffeth

> www.pancassociation.org/anthology#Heidi.html

> Bluffton, SC

> SC State & SE Regional Representative

> Pancreatitis Association, International

> www.health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pancreatitis/

>

> Note: All comments or advice are personal opinion only, and should

> not be substituted for professional medical consultation.

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Thank goodness Debs,

I'd be making it one of my missions in life to have this doctor's

licence taken away from him...

I hope you are finally put onto the right path to get some pain

control for your suffering..

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Debs,

Fantastic!!! I agree with everything that the people at this pain clinic said

to

your mum.....none of this should have happened to you! You didn't mention

that this man was a foreigner, or if you did, I didn't see it. That would have

made me suspicious right off.

The things he did to you, and then refusing to tell you what you were tested

with and suggesting such bizarre and unappropriate treatments all reeks of

tremendously unethical and dangerous practice.

I'm so glad that you got your mum involved in this and that she was able to

talk with some " real " specialists for you, and that they will take you on as a

patient. YEA!!!! It sounds as though they are willing to advise you on how to

put the screws to Doctor Dangerous so he won't be able to pull the wool over

the eyes of some other innocent pain patient like he tried with you.

This news is so much more encouraging, you must feel very relieved. Take

your mum in there with you, and let her help you stand up for your rights. I am

so relieved to hear that you won't have to deal with or see this quack

anymore!

Better days are ahead.

With love, hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth

www.pancassociation.org/anthology#Heidi.html

Bluffton, SC

SC State & SE Regional Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

www.health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pancreatitis/

Note: All comments or advice are personal opinion only, and should not be

substituted for professional medical consultation.

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Debs,

I am so glad that your mum is helping you get to this other pain clinic

and that you can seek damages for what this horrible doctor has done to

you, especially since you signed no consent forms. Please, please, let

me know how things with the head of the pain team goes and how your

first appointment with this other clinic goes. I have been soooo worried

about you.

Kimber

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Hi Heidi

yes hes a european doctor, and no I guess I didnt mention it altho

mengelman is a good likeness

> The things he did to you, and then refusing to tell you what you

were tested

> with and suggesting such bizarre and unappropriate treatments all

reeks of

> tremendously unethical and dangerous practice.

Why do you think he has done this Heidi above? eg secrets and blind

tests? I am strugglinh to see, is it that he likes to think he has a

solved a too hard one

I didnt realise I had to have consents for proceudres, and yes he

was really treatign me bad, imagine if I dint have you guys, and my

mum

Also what is he doign to others, or has in the past?

> cheers

debs

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Kimber

Thanks for your help, I will keep you posted, I am going to get my

records first, then mum is goign to help me write the questions, then

I will make a time and get her to fly up to help me, I have had to

take a back pue with this with Col as he has been brain washed byu

this guy, I just am so sorry I didnt take someoen with me to see , but

I was in a recovery room and noone is allowed in

yeh I was askign my mum especially after the block as she signed a

form when she did hers and I have sigen dnothing

thanks for thinkign of me

debs

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