Re: update w/ many questions/Sheila

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Has he been tested for bacteria like C. diff (that can cause

diarrhea) or parasites?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs

mom of and

<< He did not get any illegals for 4 months and the diarrhea was

constant.

>

> He has always had soft stools that bordered on diarrhea, but the

constant diarrhea started after we had taken a trip in December and

accidentally left his fiber supplement at home. By the time we got

home, he had really bad diarrhea and adding the fiber back didn't

seem to help the way it previously had.

>

> The fat he is getting is from fish oil and meat in general and

some coconut oil for cooking.

>

> I guess I just don't know what to feed this child! He is now

legal, back to great behavior & terrible diarrhea.

>

> -

>

> Sheila Trenholm wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> <<This leaves me wondering how I am to trust his stools as an

> indicator of what he is tolerating -- especially when foods listed

in

> the intro and stage 1 are often found to be problematic

> (carrots/green beans). >>

>

> If he still isn't 100% onn the diet you can't be sure that the

> carrots and beans will be problematic. They may only be problematic

> right now because he is still receiving illegals.

> I used to think I could not eat onions, they caused gas and

cramping

> etc. When I started SCD and cut out the starches etc.. I had no

> problem with onions.

>

> <<For my son, vegetables and fruits of all kinds historically cause

> diarrhea. This did not change when we prepared them peeled and

> cooked. If I avoid fruits and vegetables, that only leaves meat. >>

>

> Has he always had diarrhea?

>

> << I am not too worried about giving him dairy (except he won't eat

> the goat yogurt!), but if I could find a way to get him to eat

> fruit/vegetables mixed with yogurt -- should that change the

> digestibility of fruit/vegetables? >>

>

> If the fruits and veggies are peeled and cooked (except ripe

bananas

> which don't need to be cooked) adding them to yogurt will only help.

>

> <<One last question, we had previously used a fiber supplement (one

> that is illegal) per GI doc to slow down his hypermotility. It

> slowed down a bit, but it really just kept the diarrhea at bay (not

a

> cure). On the early stages of SCD, there is almost no fiber. Fiber

> can either slow down or speed up the GI motility depending on the

> problem and the amount being digested. If there is no fiber, what

> exactly is regulating the GI tract motility? >>

>

> There are two kinds of fiber: soluble and insoluble fiber. Popular

> thought is that soluble fibre helps food stay in the GI tract,

> absorbing water from the colon (helps make the stool drier). Some

> SCD examples of solubles fibre are Fruits: apples, bananas,

> grapefruit, oranges, strawberries, avacado, papaya

> Vegetables: carrots, peas, Legumes: lentils, dried peas, beans

> (though the legumes are for later in the diet).

> The insoluble fibre is the type that gets things moving. Some SCD

> examples: apples, melons, lemons, grapefruit, pears

> peppers, greens, celery, onions, broccoli(part of the cabbage

> family), Nuts.

>

> <<We meet next month to review my son's stool tests with his GI

> doctor. She is looking for problems with his pancreas among other

> things that would cause his diarrhea and malabsorption. Has anyone

> else here had multiple GI problems that made the results of the

diet

> more complicated to predict? For instance she is checking his

> ability to not only digest sugars, but also fats and proteins. What

> if he cannot break down more than just starches -- or what if he

> breaks those down better than fats and proteins? Anyone been down

> this road?! >>

>

> With a damaged gut fats can be more difficult to digest. That is

why

> Elaine set up the intro diet with very little fat. The food is easy

> to digest, feeding the body while starving out harmful microbes. As

> healing occurs and malabsorption begins to be corrected the body is

> more able to digest all types of foods and nutrients and good fats

> etc. can slowly be introduced.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs

> nmom of and

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Don't pick lemons.

> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.

>

>

[Guest guest]

All pathogenic labs were negative -- he was positive for non-pathagenic

bacterial overgrowth.

-

Sheila Trenholm wrote:

Hi ,

Has he been tested for bacteria like C. diff (that can cause

diarrhea) or parasites?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs

mom of and

<< He did not get any illegals for 4 months and the diarrhea was

constant.

>

> He has always had soft stools that bordered on diarrhea, but the

constant diarrhea started after we had taken a trip in December and

accidentally left his fiber supplement at home. By the time we got

home, he had really bad diarrhea and adding the fiber back didn't

seem to help the way it previously had.

>

> The fat he is getting is from fish oil and meat in general and

some coconut oil for cooking.

>

> I guess I just don't know what to feed this child! He is now

legal, back to great behavior & terrible diarrhea.

>

> -

>

> Sheila Trenholm wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> <<This leaves me wondering how I am to trust his stools as an

> indicator of what he is tolerating -- especially when foods listed

in

> the intro and stage 1 are often found to be problematic

> (carrots/green beans). >>

>

> If he still isn't 100% onn the diet you can't be sure that the

> carrots and beans will be problematic. They may only be problematic

> right now because he is still receiving illegals.

> I used to think I could not eat onions, they caused gas and

cramping

> etc. When I started SCD and cut out the starches etc.. I had no

> problem with onions.

>

> <<For my son, vegetables and fruits of all kinds historically cause

> diarrhea. This did not change when we prepared them peeled and

> cooked. If I avoid fruits and vegetables, that only leaves meat. >>

>

> Has he always had diarrhea?

>

> << I am not too worried about giving him dairy (except he won't eat

> the goat yogurt!), but if I could find a way to get him to eat

> fruit/vegetables mixed with yogurt -- should that change the

> digestibility of fruit/vegetables? >>

>

> If the fruits and veggies are peeled and cooked (except ripe

bananas

> which don't need to be cooked) adding them to yogurt will only help.

>

> <<One last question, we had previously used a fiber supplement (one

> that is illegal) per GI doc to slow down his hypermotility. It

> slowed down a bit, but it really just kept the diarrhea at bay (not

a

> cure). On the early stages of SCD, there is almost no fiber. Fiber

> can either slow down or speed up the GI motility depending on the

> problem and the amount being digested. If there is no fiber, what

> exactly is regulating the GI tract motility? >>

>

> There are two kinds of fiber: soluble and insoluble fiber. Popular

> thought is that soluble fibre helps food stay in the GI tract,

> absorbing water from the colon (helps make the stool drier). Some

> SCD examples of solubles fibre are Fruits: apples, bananas,

> grapefruit, oranges, strawberries, avacado, papaya

> Vegetables: carrots, peas, Legumes: lentils, dried peas, beans

> (though the legumes are for later in the diet).

> The insoluble fibre is the type that gets things moving. Some SCD

> examples: apples, melons, lemons, grapefruit, pears

> peppers, greens, celery, onions, broccoli(part of the cabbage

> family), Nuts.

>

> <<We meet next month to review my son's stool tests with his GI

> doctor. She is looking for problems with his pancreas among other

> things that would cause his diarrhea and malabsorption. Has anyone

> else here had multiple GI problems that made the results of the

diet

> more complicated to predict? For instance she is checking his

> ability to not only digest sugars, but also fats and proteins. What

> if he cannot break down more than just starches -- or what if he

> breaks those down better than fats and proteins? Anyone been down

> this road?! >>

>

> With a damaged gut fats can be more difficult to digest. That is

why

> Elaine set up the intro diet with very little fat. The food is easy

> to digest, feeding the body while starving out harmful microbes. As

> healing occurs and malabsorption begins to be corrected the body is

> more able to digest all types of foods and nutrients and good fats

> etc. can slowly be introduced.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs

> nmom of and

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Don't pick lemons.

> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.

>

>