CCFA, SCD and Low Carb Designation

[Guest guest]

The CCFA is changing the SCD info on their website and removing the

designation of SCD as a LOW CALORIE diet. However they won't budge on

saying it is LOW CARBOHYDRATE, which is untrue. I have continued to

protest and sent a typical daily menu of mine which contained over 100

grams of carbohydrates.

If anyone else is tracking their nutrients and can post or email me

examples of including reasonable amounts of SCD legal carbs, I would

appreciate it.

They have no right to discredit SCD by misrepresent it.

I hope you are all coming along well with your children and having

success on the ASD version of SCD!

Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 7 years

[Guest guest]

Can someone post what constitutes a low carb diet in the first place? Is it

based on percentages or overall grams/day? I have no idea if we are eating low

carb or normal carb. I watched an interview with Dr. Adkins before he died and

the meal he ate on camera looked plenty like what we are serving (meat and

non-starch vegetables). I have always been confused by this. Sure you could

make it a high carb diet if you are up to nuts & beans, but many us aren't

there. My kid is off fruit right now as he does better without it, so is he

" low carb? "

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Carol Frilegh wrote:

The CCFA is changing the SCD info on their website and removing the

designation of SCD as a LOW CALORIE diet. However they won't budge on

saying it is LOW CARBOHYDRATE, which is untrue. I have continued to

protest and sent a typical daily menu of mine which contained over 100

grams of carbohydrates.

If anyone else is tracking their nutrients and can post or email me

examples of including reasonable amounts of SCD legal carbs, I would

appreciate it.

They have no right to discredit SCD by misrepresent it.

I hope you are all coming along well with your children and having

success on the ASD version of SCD!

Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 7 years

[Guest guest]

In our SCD family, we normally each consume about 100-125 carbs per

day. We try and do 20-30 at each meal and around 10-15 at each snack

(2-3 snacks per day).

Of course for most Americans, who typically eat tons of bread, pasta,

processed products with sugar, and drink pop, juice etc etc. 100 carbs

a day is probably considered LOW to them. My husband who does not eat

SCD with us most of the time (he is addicted to fast food) probably

eats two or maybe even three times the amount of carbs that we do.

I do not believe the SCD is low carb. I think it can easily provide an

optimum amount of carbs. Rather, I think the typical american diet is

HIGH carb. Excessively HIGH carb. When people say that I eat low carb

these days, I always say, " no, I eat moderate carbs, I just don't go

overboard, and I only eat specific carbs " .

Here is an example of what one day's meals looks like for us:

Breakfast: eggs and grapefruit and/or melon

Snack: yogurt and some type of fruit

Lunch: Turkey burgers (made with spinach and onions), winter squash,

and a salad

Snack: yogurt and some type of fruit

Dinner: Pork chops, green beans, zucchini, carrots (cooked with honey

and butter), and salad or steamed greens

Snack: yogurt and some type of fruit

I also add in plenty of healthy fats, cook things in lard, coconut

oil, and/or olive oil, plenty of cultured butter on veggies, etc,

homemade mayo, etc etc.

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> The CCFA is changing the SCD info on their website and removing the

> designation of SCD as a LOW CALORIE diet. However they won't budge on

> saying it is LOW CARBOHYDRATE, which is untrue. I have continued to

> protest and sent a typical daily menu of mine which contained over 100

> grams of carbohydrates.

>

> If anyone else is tracking their nutrients and can post or email me

> examples of including reasonable amounts of SCD legal carbs, I would

> appreciate it.

>

> They have no right to discredit SCD by misrepresent it.

> I hope you are all coming along well with your children and having

> success on the ASD version of SCD!

>

> Carol F.

> Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

> SCD 7 years

>

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[Guest guest]

According to the website About.com, the usual " mainstream "

recommendation is a diet with 50-65% calories from carbohydrates,

and a diet with 40% or less energy from carbs can be considered

a " low-carb diet. " I, too, am in the beginnging phases of the SCD

and cannot use beans (nuts are fats, so would not add carbs), so for

carbohydrates I use fruits, winter squash and green peas. Note that

honey and juice also provide carbohydrates, so you do not need to be

at the advaced stages of the SCD to get carbs. I use a meal planning

program through my health club to make sure I get the proper ratios

of fat/prot/starch (carb). A typical day for me woul dbe the

following:

B - 2 eggs, 1 cup yogurt, 2 cups butternut squash, 1/2 banana, 1/4

cup coconut milk (this is a fat I put in coffee)

L - 3 oz chicken, 1 cup green peas, 5 oz carrots, tbspn olive oil,

baked pealed apple

Snack - Bag of apple chips (from Digestive Wellness)

D - 3 oz salmon, 1 cup green peas, 1 cup cooked spinach, tbspn olive

oil, baked pealed pear

S - 1 cup yogurt, 3/4 cup blueberries

This comes out to about 60% carbohydrates, 25% protein and15% fat.

Hope that helps!

> The CCFA is changing the SCD info on their website and

removing the

> designation of SCD as a LOW CALORIE diet. However they won't budge

on

> saying it is LOW CARBOHYDRATE, which is untrue. I have continued

to

> protest and sent a typical daily menu of mine which contained over

100

> grams of carbohydrates.

>

> If anyone else is tracking their nutrients and can post or email

me

> examples of including reasonable amounts of SCD legal carbs, I

would

> appreciate it.

>

> They have no right to discredit SCD by misrepresent it.

> I hope you are all coming along well with your children and having

> success on the ASD version of SCD!

>

> Carol F.

> Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

> SCD 7 years

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for laying it all out for me. I will have the dietician do the same for

my son since we are seeing her next week anyway to make sure we aren't too high

protein.

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amindyt wrote:

According to the website About.com, the usual " mainstream "

recommendation is a diet with 50-65% calories from carbohydrates,

and a diet with 40% or less energy from carbs can be considered

a " low-carb diet. " I, too, am in the beginnging phases of the SCD

and cannot use beans (nuts are fats, so would not add carbs), so for

carbohydrates I use fruits, winter squash and green peas. Note that

honey and juice also provide carbohydrates, so you do not need to be

at the advaced stages of the SCD to get carbs. I use a meal planning

program through my health club to make sure I get the proper ratios

of fat/prot/starch (carb). A typical day for me woul dbe the

following:

B - 2 eggs, 1 cup yogurt, 2 cups butternut squash, 1/2 banana, 1/4

cup coconut milk (this is a fat I put in coffee)

L - 3 oz chicken, 1 cup green peas, 5 oz carrots, tbspn olive oil,

baked pealed apple

Snack - Bag of apple chips (from Digestive Wellness)

D - 3 oz salmon, 1 cup green peas, 1 cup cooked spinach, tbspn olive

oil, baked pealed pear

S - 1 cup yogurt, 3/4 cup blueberries

This comes out to about 60% carbohydrates, 25% protein and15% fat.

Hope that helps!

> The CCFA is changing the SCD info on their website and

removing the

> designation of SCD as a LOW CALORIE diet. However they won't budge

on

> saying it is LOW CARBOHYDRATE, which is untrue. I have continued

to

> protest and sent a typical daily menu of mine which contained over

100

> grams of carbohydrates.

>

> If anyone else is tracking their nutrients and can post or email

me

> examples of including reasonable amounts of SCD legal carbs, I

would

> appreciate it.

>

> They have no right to discredit SCD by misrepresent it.

> I hope you are all coming along well with your children and having

> success on the ASD version of SCD!

>

> Carol F.

> Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

> SCD 7 years

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > The CCFA is changing the SCD info on their website and

> removing the

> > designation of SCD as a LOW CALORIE diet. However they won't budge

> on

> > saying it is LOW CARBOHYDRATE, which is untrue. I have continued

> to

> > protest and sent a typical daily menu of mine which contained over

> 100

> > grams of carbohydrates.

> >

> > If anyone else is tracking their nutrients and can post or email

> me

> > examples of including reasonable amounts of SCD legal carbs, I

> would

> > appreciate it.

> >

> > They have no right to discredit SCD by misrepresent it.

> > I hope you are all coming along well with your children and having

> > success on the ASD version of SCD!

> >

> > Carol F.

> > Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

> > SCD 7 years

> >

The good thing about SCD is it is flexible if for any reason you wanted either

more or less

carbs. A true low carb diet like Atkins ( weight loss, not healing) allows very

few on

induction and limits carbs after but does allow more.

I think we go through periods of craving where we will want more protein and

others when

we crave sweets and SCD legals that remind us of restricted foods. An example

would be

when people moderate fruit and honey at the beginning or in a yeast flare. In

any case I

am getting so few responses to my request for feedback on carbs in peoples'

diets that I

won't have enough ammunition to challenge that CCFA article by Debra Gordon.

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Carol, I hope Anya's diet suits you. She is 4.5 y.o. though. but she

practically eats what the rest of us eat; we are all on the diet

although we cheat when she is not around.

Breakfast: banana pancakes (1 egg, 1 banana and approx. 50 mg. DCCC),

125 ml. home made diluted grape juice, 1/2 a cup SCD yogurt with

honey.

Snack: we send raisins, yougurt, raw baby carrots and a fruit, half a

banana or one cooked peach, and home made diluted grape juice

Lunch: Usually left-overs from dinner. Beef, fish, pork, or chicken

with cooked green beans, mushrooms, spinach, bell peppers, eggplant or

chayote; half a banana, or apple sauce or pear sauce or a cooked

peach, cheese cake, or pumpkin pie, or blueberry muffin and home made

diluted apple or grape juice.

Snack: Either Haverti or mild Cheddar slices with chicken liver paté,

sometimes cheese cake and yougurt

Dinner: Vegetable soup made with homemade chicken broth and when the

recipe calls for cream we blend Farmers cheese, we usually alternate

clear soup, and creamed soup.

Either beef, pork, chicken or fish (usually one day meat the next

fish), with a cooked vegetable or raw avocado, either cheese bread or

almond bread with Gruyere, Haverti, or Cheddar, sometimes she likes a

little Brie, and she usually prefers cheese cake, or zucchini or

blueberry muffins to fruit.

Home made diluted apple or grape juice

Before going to bed she has one cup of a smoothy made with yougurt,

banana and honey.

Araceli, Anya's grandmother

Anya 4.5 y.o.

UC Dec. 2005

Diagnosed June 2006

SCD June 2006

Meds. Purinethol, Pentasa, Prednisolone, Acidophilus, Multivitamin

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> > > The CCFA is changing the SCD info on their website and

> > removing the

> > > designation of SCD as a LOW CALORIE diet. However they won't budge

> > on

> > > saying it is LOW CARBOHYDRATE, which is untrue. I have continued

> > to

> > > protest and sent a typical daily menu of mine which contained over

> > 100

> > > grams of carbohydrates.

> > >

> > > If anyone else is tracking their nutrients and can post or email

> > me

> > > examples of including reasonable amounts of SCD legal carbs, I

> > would

> > > appreciate it.

> > >

> > > They have no right to discredit SCD by misrepresent it.

> > > I hope you are all coming along well with your children and having

> > > success on the ASD version of SCD!

> > >

> > > Carol F.

> > > Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

> > > SCD 7 years

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> The good thing about SCD is it is flexible if for any reason you wanted

> either more or less

> carbs. A true low carb diet like Atkins ( weight loss, not healing) allows

> very few on

> induction and limits carbs after but does allow more.

>

> I think we go through periods of craving where we will want more protein

> and others when

> we crave sweets and SCD legals that remind us of restricted foods. An

> example would be

> when people moderate fruit and honey at the beginning or in a yeast flare.

> In any case I

> am getting so few responses to my request for feedback on carbs in peoples'

> diets that I

> won't have enough ammunition to challenge that CCFA article by Debra

> Gordon.

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> Carol F.

> SCD 7 years, celiac

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[Guest guest]

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> Carol, I hope Anya's diet suits you.

Thank you. Anya's diet looks very nutritious and sppetizing.

What I need to know for purposes of asking CCFA to remove the Low Carb

description of

SCD is to know how many grams of carbohydrate or what percentage of the daily

diet is

carbohydrate. One way to find out is to open a free acount at

www.fitday.com

and enter in the foods being eaten and the amounts.

I do hope all is going well for newbies and oldies on Pecanbread.

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Carol, sorry I tried fitday but you have to be 13 at least and Anya is

only 4. I tried it with what I eat, but their options do not include

home made simple things.

Sorry and regards.

Araceli

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> > Carol, I hope Anya's diet suits you.

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> Thank you. Anya's diet looks very nutritious and sppetizing.

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> What I need to know for purposes of asking CCFA to remove the Low Carb

> description of

> SCD is to know how many grams of carbohydrate or what percentage of the

> daily diet is

> carbohydrate. One way to find out is to open a free acount at

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> www.fitday.com

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> and enter in the foods being eaten and the amounts.

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> I do hope all is going well for newbies and oldies on Pecanbread.

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> Carol F.

> SCD 7 years, celiac

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[Guest guest]

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> Carol, sorry I tried fitday but you have to be 13 at least and Anya is

> only 4. I tried it with what I eat, but their options do not include

> home made simple things.

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> Sorry and regards.

> Araceli

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Not a problem. I would think you can open the account under your name and give

your

statistics but enter Anya's food intake to get the results.

Don't worry. I have had only a few responses and will either use what little I

have or drop

it. it would be nice if the CCFA rescinded their label of Low Carb in regard to

SCD.

The Fitday membership may prove useful. You can journal in it and track Anya's

food

intake and reactions though.

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

I have a fitday account and am on SCD. The thing is, I don't know what

would be considered low carb. How many grams of carb a day is considered

low? Mine may be, because I am on phase 2 going on 3 of the diet. You are

welcome to use it if it helps: )

SCD 4 months, eczema, food allergies

-- Re: CCFA, SCD and Low Carb Designation

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> Carol, sorry I tried fitday but you have to be 13 at least and Anya is

> only 4. I tried it with what I eat, but their options do not include

> home made simple things.

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> Sorry and regards.

> Araceli

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Not a problem. I would think you can open the account under your name and

give your

statistics but enter Anya's food intake to get the results.

Don't worry. I have had only a few responses and will either use what little

I have or drop

it. it would be nice if the CCFA rescinded their label of Low Carb in regard

to SCD.

The Fitday membership may prove useful. You can journal in it and track Anya

s food

intake and reactions though.

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac