Help again - is gas caused by die-off?

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Please help! I started this diet for my daughter mostly to help control her

gas, and it is worse than ever! Could this be die-off? My mother-in-law

says that it is from eating too much of the same food in a day (eg today she

had almost 10 pears) but how can I help this when her choices are so

limited? Should I try introducing foods more quickly so she has more

variety?

So far we have:

chicken breasts

carrots

pears

gelatin

1-2 tsp Welch's 100% white grape juice mixed with

melatonin for sleep in a cellulose base

I tried and eliminated bananas and eggs but I'm not so sure they were

causing the gas because it is still here. On the plus side, her stools are

more formed.

Thanks so much

Katy

mom to Amber 2 yo -Magenis Syndrome, excessive gas and bloating

SCD 8 days

>

> Katy,

> Welcome to the list, and I think you have found something really great for

> your daughter. I would absolutely pull those bananas out of her diet. Five

> bananas in a day is definitely too many, but the fact that the gas and

> bloating returned is a sign of intolerance. The lethargy that you saw on

> Sunday is a die off reaction. The harmful bacteria and yeast die off

> displays itself in many different ways because everyone is different. Some

> parents see increased irritability, stimming, nausia, lethargy, vomitting,

> constepation, diharea, ect. I would do the intro diet for two days again

> just to get her back to square one, and moving in the right direction. Also,

> you should stick to ground beef rather than steak for a little while just

> because the ground beef is easier for her to digest. I would introduce a new

> food every two to three days after that, and watch for symptoms. If her

> bloating or gas return, then I would pull that food out for a good while. We

> have noticed that some children have trouble with carrots, bananas, or

> apples. It appears that she did fine with the carrots, but not the bananas.

> If she has problems with the pealed, seeded, and cooked apples, you can try

> pears instead. Keep us posted.

> Meleah

> Help - Bananas causing gas

>

> Hello,

>

> My 2-year-old daughter Amber has a genetic disorder called -Magenis

> Syndrome. She is very social and is not considered autistic but she does

> bang her head when she gets upset. Sometimes she gets upset for no reason

> and often passes gas a few minutes later so I know that she has gas pain.

> She is generally under-sensitive to pain (doesn't cry when she scrapes her

> knee or gives blood) so the gas pain must be bad.

>

> Amber has had to be on Miralax for months at a time but usually her stools

> are loose. She has been off Miralax for several months now. Even with

> loose stools she only has a BM once every day or two so it's not diarrhea.

> She craves crackers, bread, and bananas. I heard about SCD and talked to a

> dietician about it who said that Amber has a hard time digesting carbs.

> She

> had never heard of SCD but said it would help Amber feel better.

>

> Before the diet Amber was not casein-free (she drank soy milk in her cup

> but

> I gave her cheese fairly often) so I thought I would try the regular

> cow's-milk version of SCD. I had her on the intro for two days. She ate

> some chicken pancakes and a pound of cooked carrots (not pureed) the first

> day. She didn't like the fruit-juice jello or fruit juice and doesn't

> usually like meat or eggs. She kept asking for crackers and bananas but

> was

> in a pretty good mood. The second day she wouldn't eat chicken pancakes

> but

> continued to ask for carrots at every snack and ate another pound that

> day.

> She was starting to get a little grouchy.

>

> The third day Amber slept in until 7:30 (usually she is up at 5:00) and

> was

> very lethargic. She wouldn't eat anything for breakfast but just looked at

> it and didn't ask for anything else. She fell asleep in church even though

> she is usually very alert in the mornings. I was worried that maybe she

> was

> needing carbs for energy so I decided that two days of the intro was

> enough

> and started her on ripe bananas. She perked right up and ate 5 bananas

> that

> day, and nothing else, except for half of a Dorito that she found. She

> wanted more bananas but I wouldn't let her have more than five.

>

> Now she has been having bananas for three days and is back to her old self

> -- also the gas has returned. While on the intro I didn't hear her pass

> gas

> and her bloated pot-belly went away. I didn't know she was bloated until

> it

> went away, I thought that was the natural shape of her belly. After

> starting bananas she began passing gas again and is bloated again.

>

> I guess she must be having a hard time with bananas and I will have to

> discontinue them. The problem is that I have since introduced cooked

> apples

> and cheddar cheese so I guess I will have to discontinue these as well

> since

> I wasn't able to see their effects.

>

> Here are my questions: Do I have to do the intro again, and for how long?

> Would one day be enough this time or should I do two or three again? It

> was

> scary when she was so lethargic and I thought she must be hungry. I was so

> relieved to see her eat bananas. What should I look out for when I give

> her

> a new food? Is a little gas normal or should I consider any gas to be a

> warning sign? At first I didn't discontinue the bananas because I thought

> a

> little gas was normal, but now it is pretty bad. So should I be concerned

> if she has even a little gas? That is a sign that the bacteria are

> fermenting her food, right?

>

> Is it okay to have cinnamon on the intro diet? I found that Amber likes

> the

> sneaky veggie pancakes made with carrots, but they have cinnamon and

> butter

> in them so are they intro foods?

>

> Here is what Amber is eating now:

> whole cooked baby carrots

> cooked apple slices

> ripe bananas

> chicken cupcakes (chicken, bananas, carrots, eggs)

> carrot pancakes (carrots, eggs, cinnamon, butter)

> cheddar cheese

> chicken pancakes (she had these at first but won't touch them now)

> one bite of beef hamburger

> one bite of steak but I don't think she swallowed it

> 1-2 tsp of Welch's 100% white grape juice that I mix her medicine in

> Amber takes melatonin for sleep, it is in a cellulose tablet

>

> Thank you so much for your help!

> Katy

> mom to Amber 2 years old -Magenis Syndrome

> SCD 6 days

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