Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Hi everyone, I really should be walking out the door to go to work, but I just felt compelled to respond to some of the things I've been reading on the list the last few weeks. Sperb had her surgery and since then has had concerns regarding the size of her stomach, the fact that she still has the same cravings etc as she did before the surgery. I guess what bothers me about this is that: Most of the responses I have seen, I think, have not be exactly understanding and compassionate. Not that anyone has been unkind, but think about it like this: We have all lived thru years of being told that we don't have enough will power, that there is something wrong with us if we want to be thin, but continue to eat and not exercise. We have always known we were different and that others who didn't have this problem really didn't understand us, nor did they have any real compassion for how it felt to be us. I feel like some MGB post-ops are now responding the same way to her. " this is only a tool " , " we still have to make wise choices " , " we need to exercise " . I think that what might be being overlooked is the fact that if that was all it took to make us thin and healthy, most post-ops would not be succeeding at this anymore than they did at regular diets. Isn't it possible that Sperb has gotten different results than most, maybe she will need a revision or something down the road? Maybe it is just as much of a struggle for her now, as it was for many post-ops BEFORE the surgery--- and what is she getting???? The same answers we have all gotten from the " thin world " for most of our lives. If it was all about choices, and exercise, and the surgery being a " tool " , none of us would have ever arrived at the place we are. Those things weren't enough. Ok, I feel better, Now i can get on with my day! We should have more understanding for each other.. I would expect that more from those who have never been in our shoes... Hang in there sperb, it will all work out! Jen Ft Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Hi everyone, I really should be walking out the door to go to work, but I just felt compelled to respond to some of the things I've been reading on the list the last few weeks. Sperb had her surgery and since then has had concerns regarding the size of her stomach, the fact that she still has the same cravings etc as she did before the surgery. I guess what bothers me about this is that: Most of the responses I have seen, I think, have not be exactly understanding and compassionate. Not that anyone has been unkind, but think about it like this: We have all lived thru years of being told that we don't have enough will power, that there is something wrong with us if we want to be thin, but continue to eat and not exercise. We have always known we were different and that others who didn't have this problem really didn't understand us, nor did they have any real compassion for how it felt to be us. I feel like some MGB post-ops are now responding the same way to her. " this is only a tool " , " we still have to make wise choices " , " we need to exercise " . I think that what might be being overlooked is the fact that if that was all it took to make us thin and healthy, most post-ops would not be succeeding at this anymore than they did at regular diets. Isn't it possible that Sperb has gotten different results than most, maybe she will need a revision or something down the road? Maybe it is just as much of a struggle for her now, as it was for many post-ops BEFORE the surgery--- and what is she getting???? The same answers we have all gotten from the " thin world " for most of our lives. If it was all about choices, and exercise, and the surgery being a " tool " , none of us would have ever arrived at the place we are. Those things weren't enough. Ok, I feel better, Now i can get on with my day! We should have more understanding for each other.. I would expect that more from those who have never been in our shoes... Hang in there sperb, it will all work out! Jen Ft Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Hey Sperb What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. Joni " Now Sleeping in Seattle " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Hey Sperb What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. Joni " Now Sleeping in Seattle " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Jen, Gee... that was great! I certainly hope I wasn't one of those post-op's I may have to re-read my responses to make sure, but nevertheless you certainly gave me alot to think about. I trully was more concerned of exactly how Sperb was feeling... If she feels EXACTLY the way she did before surgery than something is wrong. Dr. R. told us in clinic that if this surgery does not do what it is suppose to than HE failed. Not us, but him! Like you said a correction may need to be made in her case. " Hey Sperb, I am sorry if I was one of those who wasn't compasionate to your problem.. " Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hi everyone, I really should be walking out the door to go to work, but I just felt compelled to respond to some of the things I've been reading on the list the last few weeks. Sperb had her surgery and since then has had concerns regarding the size of her stomach, the fact that she still has the same cravings etc as she did before the surgery. I guess what bothers me about this is that: Most of the responses I have seen, I think, have not be exactly understanding and compassionate. Not that anyone has been unkind, but think about it like this: We have all lived thru years of being told that we don't have enough will power, that there is something wrong with us if we want to be thin, but continue to eat and not exercise. We have always known we were different and that others who didn't have this problem really didn't understand us, nor did they have any real compassion for how it felt to be us. I feel like some MGB post-ops are now responding the same way to her. " this is only a tool " , " we still have to make wise choices " , " we need to exercise " . I think that what might be being overlooked is the fact that if that was all it took to make us thin and healthy, most post-ops would not be succeeding at this anymore than they did at regular diets. Isn't it possible that Sperb has gotten different results than most, maybe she will need a revision or something down the road? Maybe it is just as much of a struggle for her now, as it was for many post-ops BEFORE the surgery--- and what is she getting???? The same answers we have all gotten from the " thin world " for most of our lives. If it was all about choices, and exercise, and the surgery being a " tool " , none of us would have ever arrived at the place we are. Those things weren't enough. Ok, I feel better, Now i can get on with my day! We should have more understanding for each other.. I would expect that more from those who have never been in our shoes... Hang in there sperb, it will all work out! Jen Ft Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Jen, Gee... that was great! I certainly hope I wasn't one of those post-op's I may have to re-read my responses to make sure, but nevertheless you certainly gave me alot to think about. I trully was more concerned of exactly how Sperb was feeling... If she feels EXACTLY the way she did before surgery than something is wrong. Dr. R. told us in clinic that if this surgery does not do what it is suppose to than HE failed. Not us, but him! Like you said a correction may need to be made in her case. " Hey Sperb, I am sorry if I was one of those who wasn't compasionate to your problem.. " Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hi everyone, I really should be walking out the door to go to work, but I just felt compelled to respond to some of the things I've been reading on the list the last few weeks. Sperb had her surgery and since then has had concerns regarding the size of her stomach, the fact that she still has the same cravings etc as she did before the surgery. I guess what bothers me about this is that: Most of the responses I have seen, I think, have not be exactly understanding and compassionate. Not that anyone has been unkind, but think about it like this: We have all lived thru years of being told that we don't have enough will power, that there is something wrong with us if we want to be thin, but continue to eat and not exercise. We have always known we were different and that others who didn't have this problem really didn't understand us, nor did they have any real compassion for how it felt to be us. I feel like some MGB post-ops are now responding the same way to her. " this is only a tool " , " we still have to make wise choices " , " we need to exercise " . I think that what might be being overlooked is the fact that if that was all it took to make us thin and healthy, most post-ops would not be succeeding at this anymore than they did at regular diets. Isn't it possible that Sperb has gotten different results than most, maybe she will need a revision or something down the road? Maybe it is just as much of a struggle for her now, as it was for many post-ops BEFORE the surgery--- and what is she getting???? The same answers we have all gotten from the " thin world " for most of our lives. If it was all about choices, and exercise, and the surgery being a " tool " , none of us would have ever arrived at the place we are. Those things weren't enough. Ok, I feel better, Now i can get on with my day! We should have more understanding for each other.. I would expect that more from those who have never been in our shoes... Hang in there sperb, it will all work out! Jen Ft Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Sperb, Why haven't you answered my post about how much you're eating? It's really important if you can get down just as much as before... Dr. R. needs to know this, honest.. I don't think any other post-op can do that! Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hey Sperb What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. Joni " Now Sleeping in Seattle " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Sperb, Why haven't you answered my post about how much you're eating? It's really important if you can get down just as much as before... Dr. R. needs to know this, honest.. I don't think any other post-op can do that! Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hey Sperb What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. Joni " Now Sleeping in Seattle " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Maybe not as much as before, but Lori and I can scarf down some FOOD!!! Sperb, don't worry. Just let it happen. I do eat a lot, and often, but my weight loss has been very good. I had a slow start (I didn't have any edema or stuff to get rid of!) but I've lost 80+ lbs. at 6 months. You'll get there - enjoy!!!! Amy. _____________________________________________ Amy S. Poe MGB 5/22/2000 280 * 199 * 140 READ MY STORY ONLINE: http://onhealth.webmd.com/women/in-depth/item/item%2C91744_1_1.asp Re: About Sperb! Sperb, Why haven't you answered my post about how much you're eating? It's really important if you can get down just as much as before... Dr. R. needs to know this, honest.. I don't think any other post-op can do that! Trudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 Maybe not as much as before, but Lori and I can scarf down some FOOD!!! Sperb, don't worry. Just let it happen. I do eat a lot, and often, but my weight loss has been very good. I had a slow start (I didn't have any edema or stuff to get rid of!) but I've lost 80+ lbs. at 6 months. You'll get there - enjoy!!!! Amy. _____________________________________________ Amy S. Poe MGB 5/22/2000 280 * 199 * 140 READ MY STORY ONLINE: http://onhealth.webmd.com/women/in-depth/item/item%2C91744_1_1.asp Re: About Sperb! Sperb, Why haven't you answered my post about how much you're eating? It's really important if you can get down just as much as before... Dr. R. needs to know this, honest.. I don't think any other post-op can do that! Trudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2000 Report Share Posted December 10, 2000 Trude, I've been posting, but not getting a lot of replies, so I guess there's something wrong with my mail . . . Did you get the one where I told you how proud you should be of yourself? Anyhoo, I CAN'T eat as much, I find. I can eat more than most of the folks who are new post-MGB'ers. And I can eat pretty much everything as long as I take my time. I've lost 16 pounds as of today (12/10) my BIRTHDAY, no less!!!! Thanks for asking about me, I appreciate it more than you know. I think I'm going to be okay. Maybe slow, but that's okay with me--maybe my skin will have time to shrink. Love, Sperb >>> comic@... 11/30/00 08:31AM >>> Sperb, Why haven't you answered my post about how much you're eating? It's really important if you can get down just as much as before... Dr. R. needs to know this, honest.. I don't think any other post-op can do that! Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hey Sperb What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. Joni " Now Sleeping in Seattle " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2000 Report Share Posted December 10, 2000 Trude, I've been posting, but not getting a lot of replies, so I guess there's something wrong with my mail . . . Did you get the one where I told you how proud you should be of yourself? Anyhoo, I CAN'T eat as much, I find. I can eat more than most of the folks who are new post-MGB'ers. And I can eat pretty much everything as long as I take my time. I've lost 16 pounds as of today (12/10) my BIRTHDAY, no less!!!! Thanks for asking about me, I appreciate it more than you know. I think I'm going to be okay. Maybe slow, but that's okay with me--maybe my skin will have time to shrink. Love, Sperb >>> comic@... 11/30/00 08:31AM >>> Sperb, Why haven't you answered my post about how much you're eating? It's really important if you can get down just as much as before... Dr. R. needs to know this, honest.. I don't think any other post-op can do that! Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hey Sperb What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. Joni " Now Sleeping in Seattle " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2000 Report Share Posted December 10, 2000 Trude You already know I think you're the best. I wrote a long reply to the other post which you will get. I'm doing better; my problem is mostly between my ears. The childhood abuse probably doesn't help that. But 16 pounds in a month--though not as spectacular as some and not even " average " according to Dr.R's stats--feels better to me all the time. A little slower yes. Not working--no. More than everything, I appreciate the concern. Having felt invisible most of my life, concern rates real high on my list. thanks again for thinkin of me. Love, Sperb >>> comic@... 11/30/00 07:00AM >>> Jen, Gee... that was great! I certainly hope I wasn't one of those post-op's I may have to re-read my responses to make sure, but nevertheless you certainly gave me alot to think about. I trully was more concerned of exactly how Sperb was feeling... If she feels EXACTLY the way she did before surgery than something is wrong. Dr. R. told us in clinic that if this surgery does not do what it is suppose to than HE failed. Not us, but him! Like you said a correction may need to be made in her case. " Hey Sperb, I am sorry if I was one of those who wasn't compasionate to your problem.. " Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hi everyone, I really should be walking out the door to go to work, but I just felt compelled to respond to some of the things I've been reading on the list the last few weeks. Sperb had her surgery and since then has had concerns regarding the size of her stomach, the fact that she still has the same cravings etc as she did before the surgery. I guess what bothers me about this is that: Most of the responses I have seen, I think, have not be exactly understanding and compassionate. Not that anyone has been unkind, but think about it like this: We have all lived thru years of being told that we don't have enough will power, that there is something wrong with us if we want to be thin, but continue to eat and not exercise. We have always known we were different and that others who didn't have this problem really didn't understand us, nor did they have any real compassion for how it felt to be us. I feel like some MGB post-ops are now responding the same way to her. " this is only a tool " , " we still have to make wise choices " , " we need to exercise " . I think that what might be being overlooked is the fact that if that was all it took to make us thin and healthy, most post-ops would not be succeeding at this anymore than they did at regular diets. Isn't it possible that Sperb has gotten different results than most, maybe she will need a revision or something down the road? Maybe it is just as much of a struggle for her now, as it was for many post-ops BEFORE the surgery--- and what is she getting???? The same answers we have all gotten from the " thin world " for most of our lives. If it was all about choices, and exercise, and the surgery being a " tool " , none of us would have ever arrived at the place we are. Those things weren't enough. Ok, I feel better, Now i can get on with my day! We should have more understanding for each other.. I would expect that more from those who have never been in our shoes... Hang in there sperb, it will all work out! Jen Ft Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2000 Report Share Posted December 10, 2000 Trude You already know I think you're the best. I wrote a long reply to the other post which you will get. I'm doing better; my problem is mostly between my ears. The childhood abuse probably doesn't help that. But 16 pounds in a month--though not as spectacular as some and not even " average " according to Dr.R's stats--feels better to me all the time. A little slower yes. Not working--no. More than everything, I appreciate the concern. Having felt invisible most of my life, concern rates real high on my list. thanks again for thinkin of me. Love, Sperb >>> comic@... 11/30/00 07:00AM >>> Jen, Gee... that was great! I certainly hope I wasn't one of those post-op's I may have to re-read my responses to make sure, but nevertheless you certainly gave me alot to think about. I trully was more concerned of exactly how Sperb was feeling... If she feels EXACTLY the way she did before surgery than something is wrong. Dr. R. told us in clinic that if this surgery does not do what it is suppose to than HE failed. Not us, but him! Like you said a correction may need to be made in her case. " Hey Sperb, I am sorry if I was one of those who wasn't compasionate to your problem.. " Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hi everyone, I really should be walking out the door to go to work, but I just felt compelled to respond to some of the things I've been reading on the list the last few weeks. Sperb had her surgery and since then has had concerns regarding the size of her stomach, the fact that she still has the same cravings etc as she did before the surgery. I guess what bothers me about this is that: Most of the responses I have seen, I think, have not be exactly understanding and compassionate. Not that anyone has been unkind, but think about it like this: We have all lived thru years of being told that we don't have enough will power, that there is something wrong with us if we want to be thin, but continue to eat and not exercise. We have always known we were different and that others who didn't have this problem really didn't understand us, nor did they have any real compassion for how it felt to be us. I feel like some MGB post-ops are now responding the same way to her. " this is only a tool " , " we still have to make wise choices " , " we need to exercise " . I think that what might be being overlooked is the fact that if that was all it took to make us thin and healthy, most post-ops would not be succeeding at this anymore than they did at regular diets. Isn't it possible that Sperb has gotten different results than most, maybe she will need a revision or something down the road? Maybe it is just as much of a struggle for her now, as it was for many post-ops BEFORE the surgery--- and what is she getting???? The same answers we have all gotten from the " thin world " for most of our lives. If it was all about choices, and exercise, and the surgery being a " tool " , none of us would have ever arrived at the place we are. Those things weren't enough. Ok, I feel better, Now i can get on with my day! We should have more understanding for each other.. I would expect that more from those who have never been in our shoes... Hang in there sperb, it will all work out! Jen Ft Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 Sperb, Yes, dear, I got your post that I should be proud of myself. I understand what you are saying, just probably don't see it as something I should be proud of.. I am proud though that I kn0w what makes me dump, and I don't do that anymore, lol. Yes, you're loosing slower will give your skin time to tighten, much better than some people loosing way too fast... I agree with that. I think I have plateaued already, I haven't lost anything in over a week. Duh, go figure. But, I feel smaller, and my clothes are all getting baggier, so who gives a dang! (good as word as any) Hey Sperb, don't forget to make sometime for me on the Jan. 1st when I'll be down your way!!! Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hey Sperb What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. Joni " Now Sleeping in Seattle " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 Sperb, Yes, dear, I got your post that I should be proud of myself. I understand what you are saying, just probably don't see it as something I should be proud of.. I am proud though that I kn0w what makes me dump, and I don't do that anymore, lol. Yes, you're loosing slower will give your skin time to tighten, much better than some people loosing way too fast... I agree with that. I think I have plateaued already, I haven't lost anything in over a week. Duh, go figure. But, I feel smaller, and my clothes are all getting baggier, so who gives a dang! (good as word as any) Hey Sperb, don't forget to make sometime for me on the Jan. 1st when I'll be down your way!!! Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hey Sperb What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. Joni " Now Sleeping in Seattle " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 I swear we should just throw our " dang " scales away! I am looking forward to seeing you on New Year's day. I'm trying to figure out how to spend New Years eve with some friends in Palm Springs and then meet with you and Christy--but everything is workable. When and where do you think we will meet? I wouldn't miss it for the world! Love, Sperb >>> comic@... 12/11/00 10:38AM >>> Sperb, Yes, dear, I got your post that I should be proud of myself. I understand what you are saying, just probably don't see it as something I should be proud of.. I am proud though that I kn0w what makes me dump, and I don't do that anymore, lol. Yes, you're loosing slower will give your skin time to tighten, much better than some people loosing way too fast... I agree with that. I think I have plateaued already, I haven't lost anything in over a week. Duh, go figure. But, I feel smaller, and my clothes are all getting baggier, so who gives a dang! (good as word as any) Hey Sperb, don't forget to make sometime for me on the Jan. 1st when I'll be down your way!!! Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hey Sperb What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. Joni " Now Sleeping in Seattle " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 I swear we should just throw our " dang " scales away! I am looking forward to seeing you on New Year's day. I'm trying to figure out how to spend New Years eve with some friends in Palm Springs and then meet with you and Christy--but everything is workable. When and where do you think we will meet? I wouldn't miss it for the world! Love, Sperb >>> comic@... 12/11/00 10:38AM >>> Sperb, Yes, dear, I got your post that I should be proud of myself. I understand what you are saying, just probably don't see it as something I should be proud of.. I am proud though that I kn0w what makes me dump, and I don't do that anymore, lol. Yes, you're loosing slower will give your skin time to tighten, much better than some people loosing way too fast... I agree with that. I think I have plateaued already, I haven't lost anything in over a week. Duh, go figure. But, I feel smaller, and my clothes are all getting baggier, so who gives a dang! (good as word as any) Hey Sperb, don't forget to make sometime for me on the Jan. 1st when I'll be down your way!!! Trudy Re: About Sperb! Hey Sperb What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. Joni " Now Sleeping in Seattle " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 Sperb, (Late, I know, but sincere the same ) Happy Birthday !! Tarri in Missouri MGB 09-29-00 329/275 Re: About Sperb! > > > Hey Sperb > > What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I > am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. > > Joni > " Now Sleeping in Seattle " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 Sperb, (Late, I know, but sincere the same ) Happy Birthday !! Tarri in Missouri MGB 09-29-00 329/275 Re: About Sperb! > > > Hey Sperb > > What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I > am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. > > Joni > " Now Sleeping in Seattle " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 It's never too late! It just keeps the celebration going! Thanks! Love, Sperb >>> rsrchcoord@... 12/12/00 06:26AM >>> Sperb, (Late, I know, but sincere the same ) Happy Birthday !! Tarri in Missouri MGB 09-29-00 329/275 Re: About Sperb! > > > Hey Sperb > > What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I > am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. > > Joni > " Now Sleeping in Seattle " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 It's never too late! It just keeps the celebration going! Thanks! Love, Sperb >>> rsrchcoord@... 12/12/00 06:26AM >>> Sperb, (Late, I know, but sincere the same ) Happy Birthday !! Tarri in Missouri MGB 09-29-00 329/275 Re: About Sperb! > > > Hey Sperb > > What has Dr. R. said about this? Is he being supportive and compassionate? I > am feeling a little blue for you. My thoughts are with you. > > Joni > " Now Sleeping in Seattle " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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