Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm trying to understand why an exception is made for one particular food. - --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Dear , I've been able to find two brands of bacon that have no sugar. I don't recall the names since I'm at work, but I could check when I get home if you wish. They are both labeled as low sodium. No sugar, no illegals that I can find on the ingredient list, no sweetener of any kind. So I give my son bacon as many times per week as he wants, since he adores it. Rob or Sunseri wrote: Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm trying to understand why an exception is made for one particular food. - --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 there's also bacon made with honey - it's organic prairie. scroll down to the bottom of the page: http://www.organicprairie.com/pork.html there are no nitrates, either. silvia > Dear , I've been able to find two brands of bacon that have > no sugar. I don't recall the names since I'm at work, but I could > check when I get home if you wish. They are both labeled as low > sodium. No sugar, no illegals that I can find on the ingredient > list, no sweetener of any kind. So I give my son bacon as many > times per week as he wants, since he adores it. > > > Rob or Sunseri wrote: > Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if > crispy? I'm trying to understand why an exception is made for one > particular food. > > - > > --------------------------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with > Yahoo! FareChase. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Hi , This might be OK for folks with IBD but not for ASD children. Dr Haas' book makes it clear that if you want improvements in the brain, then 100% compliance is very important. Mimi > Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm trying > to understand why an exception is made for one particular food. > > - > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > FareChase. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 On the topic of compliance, two days ago I found out our babysitter gave my son sugar-free candy. The only way I found out was I asked what words he had said that day. He said " candy " very clearly, so I asked why -- the sitter said, " That's OK, it was sugar free. " This is after extensive education, providing legal/illegal lists, etc. GRRRRRR!!!!!! Of course then my son got really hyper and had diarrhea the rest of the day. If I hadn't asked about the words, I would never have known. How do I get the babysitter to understand???? Thanks, pecan post wrote: Hi , This might be OK for folks with IBD but not for ASD children. Dr Haas' book makes it clear that if you want improvements in the brain, then 100% compliance is very important. Mimi > Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm trying > to understand why an exception is made for one particular food. > > - > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > FareChase. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 I tell everyone that my son is with that they are never to give him anything to eat, and nothing to drink accept water. They are only allowed to give him food and non-water drinks if I sent them from home. If there is a babysitter at my house. I prepare what iel is allowed to eat/drink before I leave. I tell her that he is only to have these particular items, and nothing else. It's a lot more work, but it has solved the problems of people thinking that he can have things that he cannot. Even with what we think is extensive education, I think people really don't understand the complexity of how SCD works unless they really read the book. Even then, sometimes they don't read it thoroughly enough to truly understand it. Meleah Re: bacon w/sugar On the topic of compliance, two days ago I found out our babysitter gave my son sugar-free candy. The only way I found out was I asked what words he had said that day. He said " candy " very clearly, so I asked why -- the sitter said, " That's OK, it was sugar free. " This is after extensive education, providing legal/illegal lists, etc. GRRRRRR!!!!!! Of course then my son got really hyper and had diarrhea the rest of the day. If I hadn't asked about the words, I would never have known. How do I get the babysitter to understand???? Thanks, pecan post wrote: Hi , This might be OK for folks with IBD but not for ASD children. Dr Haas' book makes it clear that if you want improvements in the brain, then 100% compliance is very important. Mimi > Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm trying > to understand why an exception is made for one particular food. > > - > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > FareChase. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 I thought only sugar-free bacon was allowed. Can you have bacon with sugar once a week? The butcher at Whole Foods told me nobody puts nitrates in bacon anymore. So this is incorrect? You need to check for that? Thanks, Debbie, 38, cd pentasa scd 1/07 > > I tell everyone that my son is with that they are never to give him > anything to eat, and nothing to drink accept water. They are only allowed to > give him food and non-water drinks if I sent them from home. If there is a > babysitter at my house. I prepare what iel is allowed to eat/drink > before I leave. I tell her that he is only to have these particular items, > and nothing else. It's a lot more work, but it has solved the problems of > people thinking that he can have things that he cannot. Even with what we > think is extensive education, I think people really don't understand the > complexity of how SCD works unless they really read the book. Even then, > sometimes they don't read it thoroughly enough to truly understand it. > Meleah > Re: bacon w/sugar > > On the topic of compliance, two days ago I found out our babysitter gave > my son sugar-free candy. The only way I found out was I asked what words he > had said that day. He said " candy " very clearly, so I asked why -- the > sitter said, " That's OK, it was sugar free. " This is after extensive > education, providing legal/illegal lists, etc. GRRRRRR!!!!!! Of course then > my son got really hyper and had diarrhea the rest of the day. If I hadn't > asked about the words, I would never have known. > How do I get the babysitter to understand???? > Thanks, > > > pecan post <pecanpost@... <pecanpost%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi , > > This might be OK for folks with IBD but not for ASD children. Dr Haas' > book makes it clear that if you want improvements in the brain, then > 100% compliance is very important. > > Mimi > > On 6/5/07, Rob or Sunseri <RobRose@...<RobRose%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm > trying > > to understand why an exception is made for one particular food. > > > > - > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > > FareChase. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 That's what is on the website -- that's why I asked as it doesn't make sense. Most everybody still puts nitrates in bacon (and lunch meat). I always check labels, and it's always in there except for ones that say nitrate-free. - Tex Debl wrote: I thought only sugar-free bacon was allowed. Can you have bacon with sugar once a week? The butcher at Whole Foods told me nobody puts nitrates in bacon anymore. So this is incorrect? You need to check for that? Thanks, Debbie, 38, cd pentasa scd 1/07 > > I tell everyone that my son is with that they are never to give him > anything to eat, and nothing to drink accept water. They are only allowed to > give him food and non-water drinks if I sent them from home. If there is a > babysitter at my house. I prepare what iel is allowed to eat/drink > before I leave. I tell her that he is only to have these particular items, > and nothing else. It's a lot more work, but it has solved the problems of > people thinking that he can have things that he cannot. Even with what we > think is extensive education, I think people really don't understand the > complexity of how SCD works unless they really read the book. Even then, > sometimes they don't read it thoroughly enough to truly understand it. > Meleah > Re: bacon w/sugar > > On the topic of compliance, two days ago I found out our babysitter gave > my son sugar-free candy. The only way I found out was I asked what words he > had said that day. He said " candy " very clearly, so I asked why -- the > sitter said, " That's OK, it was sugar free. " This is after extensive > education, providing legal/illegal lists, etc. GRRRRRR!!!!!! Of course then > my son got really hyper and had diarrhea the rest of the day. If I hadn't > asked about the words, I would never have known. > How do I get the babysitter to understand???? > Thanks, > > > pecan post <pecanpost@... <pecanpost%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi , > > This might be OK for folks with IBD but not for ASD children. Dr Haas' > book makes it clear that if you want improvements in the brain, then > 100% compliance is very important. > > Mimi > > On 6/5/07, Rob or Sunseri <RobRose@...<RobRose%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm > trying > > to understand why an exception is made for one particular food. > > > > - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Carol shed some light on this a while back. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/58146 But we cannot use conventional bacon for our kids with autism. , mom to > > > Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm > > trying > > > to understand why an exception is made for one particular food. > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 What exactly does that mean...conventional bacon. Are you meaning that we should find sugar free, nitrate and nitrite free, and grassfed or organic bacone? Or, are you meaning no bacon at all? I have to say that I have been on this list for a year, and have never read or heard of this until now. Meleah Re: bacon w/sugar Carol shed some light on this a while back. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/58146 But we cannot use conventional bacon for our kids with autism. , mom to > > > Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm > > trying > > > to understand why an exception is made for one particular food. > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 i talked to the manager at the meat counter at whole foods, and he special ordered it for me. but, some whole foods do carry it. it is nitrate and sugar free. but it does have honey in it. > > there's also bacon made with honey - it's organic prairie. scroll > down to the bottom of the page: http://www.organicprairie.com/ > pork.html > > there are no nitrates, either. > > silvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I'm always a little paranoid of " honey " as an ingredient because I'm afraid they have added other sweeteners to it, but if the company is trustworthy, then it should be theoretically OK, and I guess it doesn't hurt to try and observe any changes. Silvia Payne wrote: i talked to the manager at the meat counter at whole foods, and he special ordered it for me. but, some whole foods do carry it. it is nitrate and sugar free. but it does have honey in it. > > there's also bacon made with honey - it's organic prairie. scroll > down to the bottom of the page: http://www.organicprairie.com/ > pork.html > > there are no nitrates, either. > > silvia --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I meant bacon with sugar. The consumption of nitrates, or not is a personal choice. This is something I learned reading this list. Please get confirmation from moderator in case I am mistaken. , mom to -- In pecanbread , " robin " wrote: > > What exactly does that mean...conventional bacon. Are you meaning that we should find sugar free, nitrate and nitrite free, and grassfed or organic bacone? Or, are you meaning no bacon at all? I have to say that I have been on this list for a year, and have never read or heard of this until now. > Meleah > Re: bacon w/sugar > > > Carol shed some light on this a while back. > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/58146 > But we cannot use conventional bacon for our kids with autism. > , mom to > > > > > > Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm > > > trying > > > > to understand why an exception is made for one particular food. > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 > > > > What exactly does that mean...conventional bacon. Are you meaning > that we should find sugar free, nitrate and nitrite free, and grass-fed > or organic bacon? I discovered a delightful compromise about bacon. Whole Foods carries a Grass Fed Nitrate Free Belly Bacon from an organic farm in Ontario called Beretta. It i has sugar. Since Elaine said we could have such bacon once a week, I have it on Saturday or Sunday as Whole Foods offers it crisply oven baked on their hot table. I will not but it by the package and bring it home at the risk of being tempted to have it more often. So, we can have sugar free bacon once in a while (usually it's a brand with less salt) but I agree with that nitrates are not desirable especially for children. The best bet would be to find a butcher who will make the kind of bacon you want available to you. I freeze bacon very successfully in Ziploc bags. This cannot be shipped cross border but Canadians on the list may be interested http://www.berettaorganics.com/ Carol F. SCD 7 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 OK. So, it looks like I've been doing the right thing. We've been having bacon once a week, but I get it from a farm that raises grassfed pork, poultry, and lamb. There's nothing in it except salt and sugar. Meleah Re: bacon w/sugar > > > > What exactly does that mean...conventional bacon. Are you meaning > that we should find sugar free, nitrate and nitrite free, and grass-fed > or organic bacon? I discovered a delightful compromise about bacon. Whole Foods carries a Grass Fed Nitrate Free Belly Bacon from an organic farm in Ontario called Beretta. It i has sugar. Since Elaine said we could have such bacon once a week, I have it on Saturday or Sunday as Whole Foods offers it crisply oven baked on their hot table. I will not but it by the package and bring it home at the risk of being tempted to have it more often. So, we can have sugar free bacon once in a while (usually it's a brand with less salt) but I agree with that nitrates are not desirable especially for children. The best bet would be to find a butcher who will make the kind of bacon you want available to you. I freeze bacon very successfully in Ziploc bags. This cannot be shipped cross border but Canadians on the list may be interested http://www.berettaorganics.com/ Carol F. SCD 7 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Someone posted yesterday that only adults who do not have a neurological condition can have the bacon at all (once/week). - robin wrote: OK. So, it looks like I've been doing the right thing. We've been having bacon once a week, but I get it from a farm that raises grassfed pork, poultry, and lamb. There's nothing in it except salt and sugar. Meleah Re: bacon w/sugar > > > > What exactly does that mean...conventional bacon. Are you meaning > that we should find sugar free, nitrate and nitrite free, and grass-fed > or organic bacon? I discovered a delightful compromise about bacon. Whole Foods carries a Grass Fed Nitrate Free Belly Bacon from an organic farm in Ontario called Beretta. It i has sugar. Since Elaine said we could have such bacon once a week, I have it on Saturday or Sunday as Whole Foods offers it crisply oven baked on their hot table. I will not but it by the package and bring it home at the risk of being tempted to have it more often. So, we can have sugar free bacon once in a while (usually it's a brand with less salt) but I agree with that nitrates are not desirable especially for children. The best bet would be to find a butcher who will make the kind of bacon you want available to you. I freeze bacon very successfully in Ziploc bags. This cannot be shipped cross border but Canadians on the list may be interested http://www.berettaorganics.com/ Carol F. SCD 7 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 > > I meant bacon with sugar. The consumption of nitrates, or not is a > personal choice. People should realize nitrates are a neuro-toxic additive when they make that choice. - Recent Activity 21 New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Is sodium nitrite the same as nitrates? julie46250 wrote: I meant bacon with sugar. The consumption of nitrates, or not is a personal choice. This is something I learned reading this list. Please get confirmation from moderator in case I am mistaken. , mom to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I'm not sure if they are identical, but they would both be considered neuro-toxins. - Lake wrote: Is sodium nitrite the same as nitrates? julie46250 wrote: I meant bacon with sugar. The consumption of nitrates, or not is a personal choice. This is something I learned reading this list. Please get confirmation from moderator in case I am mistaken. , mom to --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Maybe he would like prosciutto, the legal kind. Thanks for the info. Rob or Sunseri wrote: I'm not sure if they are identical, but they would both be considered neuro-toxins. - Lake wrote: Is sodium nitrite the same as nitrates? julie46250 wrote: I meant bacon with sugar. The consumption of nitrates, or not is a personal choice. This is something I learned reading this list. Please get confirmation from moderator in case I am mistaken. , mom to --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 So what exactly would constitute " the legal kind " of prosciutto? I'm terrible about missing illegals in a label unless I know what to look for. Teena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Hi , << Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? I'm trying to understand why an exception is made for one particular food.>> I am not sure. It may be that sugar changes shape when cooked at frying temp for an extended period of time(?) Or it could be that Elaine was trying to make a compromise for those who couldn't find sugar free bacon - similar to the one diet soda a week rule. Sheila, SCD Feb. 200, UC 23yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 > > Hi , > > << Why is bacon that contains sugar legal once per week if crispy? > I'm trying to understand why an exception is made for one particular > food.>> > > I am not sure. It may be that sugar changes shape when cooked at > frying temp for an extended period of time(?) Or it could be that > Elaine was trying to make a compromise for those who couldn't find > sugar free bacon - similar to the one diet soda a week rule. > > Sheila, SCD Feb. 200, UC 23yrs > mom of and > Elaine made that concession for people who eat Sunday breakfast or do so in a restaurant. I prefer t sugar free bacon except in the case of the Beretta nitrate free organic bacon in Ontario, Canada. When Whole Foods prepares it for their hot food table, they bake it instead of frying and serve it very well done. It contains a small amount of sugar. I enjoy it once a week. Carol F. SCD 7 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I apologize for the misinformation about bacon with sugar I posted. The number of times the sugar-free Gwaltney bacon has been recommended on this list and not been challenged led me to believe that it was more important to avoid sugar than nitrate/nitrites, whichever they are. , mom to > > > > > > What exactly does that mean...conventional bacon. Are you meaning > > that we should find sugar free, nitrate and nitrite free, and grass-fed > > or organic bacon? > > I discovered a delightful compromise about bacon. Whole Foods carries a Grass Fed Nitrate > Free Belly Bacon from an organic farm in Ontario called Beretta. It i has sugar. Since Elaine > said we could have such bacon once a week, I have it on Saturday or Sunday as Whole > Foods offers it crisply oven baked on their hot table. > > I will not but it by the package and bring it home at the risk of being tempted to have it > more often. So, we can have sugar free bacon once in a while (usually it's a brand with less > salt) but I agree with that nitrates are not desirable especially for children. The best > bet would be to find a butcher who will make the kind of bacon you want available to you. > I freeze bacon very successfully in Ziploc bags. > > This cannot be shipped cross border but Canadians on the list may be interested > > http://www.berettaorganics.com/ > > Carol F. > SCD 7 years, celiac > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I apologize for mentioning Gwaltney brand because it's the only sugar-free I've found. Also, the butcher at Whole Foods here told me there was no need to worry about nitrates; they don't use them anymore. I would rather splurge on proscuitto (sp?) if I really wanted bacon. The Gwaltney wasn't that good unless it was fried really crispy. Sorry, won't mention that brand again Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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