Re: Agave as a sweetner-further question/Stevia

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Hi Becky,

You might want to try stevia. Here is post by Marilyn about stevia.

Marilyn is writing a forthcoming cookbook about the cuisine of New

Orleans.

Mimi

Stevia * caution * (list) Stevia is an herb native to South America,

and is now grown and cultivated throughout the world. Stevia belongs

to a family called Terpenoids. According to The Organic Constitutents

of Higher Plants by Trevor , 2nd edition, page 158, " This

class of glycosides (terpenoids) often have physiological effects on

mammals and microorganisms. "

Elaine has noted on the adult listserv that, " Its molecular structure

resembles a steroid. It is not SCD legal. " However, on the Elaine's

Children list, she indicated that it might be used in strictly limited

quantities for those children who absolutely cannot tolerate either

honey or saccharin.

Powdered stevia should be approached with extreme caution. At least

one manufacturer of organic stevia includes " erythritol " which they

claim is a " natural free flowing agent " . Erythritol is what is called

a sugar alcohol. Sugar alcohols include things like mannitol, xylitol,

and sorbitol which are used in a lot of commercial " sugar-free " stuff.

They're allowed to get away with that because normally, our guts can't

digest those sugar alcohols. But the bad bugs in our guts can, and

will have a field day on them.

If you elect to use stevia as a sweetener, read all ingredient lists

very carefully, and research all ingredients. " All natural " or

" organic " does not mean " SCD Legal. " If you are using stevia, and do

not appear to be gaining any ground on SCD, it would be strongly

recommended to eliminate the stevia for several weeks and keep a food

log.

-- Marilyn (New Orleans, Louisiana, USA)

> If honey feeds yeast and my son has yeast problems along with fruit, I am at

> a loss for what to use as a sweetner?

>

> pecan post wrote: Hi Becky,

>

> I am not sure why agave is illegal.

> Agave has saponins and fructans. Inulin is a type of fructan that is

> illegal.

> Maybe the reason is that it is similar to inulin.

>

> We all learned the hard way that Elaine is always right. LOL

> Mimi

> Former SCD rebel

>

>

> > Does it feed yeast or something?

> >

> > pecan post wrote: Becky,

> >

> > I am so sorry but agave is not SCD legal.

> >

> > Mimi

> > :

> > > has anyone used agave as a sweetner instead of honey on SCD.

> > > Becky

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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pecan post wrote:

Stevia * caution * (list) Stevia is an herb native to South America,

and is now grown and cultivated throughout the world. Stevia belongs

to a family called Terpenoids. According to The Organic Constitutents

of Higher Plants by Trevor , 2nd edition, page 158, " This

class of glycosides (terpenoids) often have physiological effects on

mammals and microorganisms. "

Elaine has noted on the adult listserv that, " Its molecular structure

resembles a steroid. It is not SCD legal. " However, on the Elaine's

Children list, she indicated that it might be used in strictly limited

quantities for those children who absolutely cannot tolerate either

honey or saccharin.

Powdered stevia should be approached with extreme caution. At least

one manufacturer of organic stevia includes " erythritol " which they

claim is a " natural free flowing agent " . Erythritol is what is called

a sugar alcohol. Sugar alcohols include things like mannitol, xylitol,

and sorbitol which are used in a lot of commercial " sugar-free " stuff.

They're allowed to get away with that because normally, our guts can't

digest those sugar alcohols. But the bad bugs in our guts can, and

will have a field day on them.

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thanks for the tip - i just checked my box of powdered stevia and it

contains maltodextrin (!). needless to say i will be returning this

to whole foods.

> Hi Becky,

>

> You might want to try stevia. Here is post by Marilyn about stevia.

> Marilyn is writing a forthcoming cookbook about the cuisine of New

> Orleans.

>

> Mimi

>

> Stevia * caution * (list) Stevia is an herb native to South America,

> and is now grown and cultivated throughout the world. Stevia belongs

> to a family called Terpenoids. According to The Organic Constitutents

> of Higher Plants by Trevor , 2nd edition, page 158, " This

> class of glycosides (terpenoids) often have physiological effects on

> mammals and microorganisms. "

>

> Elaine has noted on the adult listserv that, " Its molecular structure

> resembles a steroid. It is not SCD legal. " However, on the Elaine's

> Children list, she indicated that it might be used in strictly limited

> quantities for those children who absolutely cannot tolerate either

> honey or saccharin.

>

> Powdered stevia should be approached with extreme caution. At least

> one manufacturer of organic stevia includes " erythritol " which they

> claim is a " natural free flowing agent " . Erythritol is what is called

> a sugar alcohol. Sugar alcohols include things like mannitol, xylitol,

> and sorbitol which are used in a lot of commercial " sugar-free " stuff.

> They're allowed to get away with that because normally, our guts can't

> digest those sugar alcohols. But the bad bugs in our guts can, and

> will have a field day on them.

>

> If you elect to use stevia as a sweetener, read all ingredient lists

> very carefully, and research all ingredients. " All natural " or

> " organic " does not mean " SCD Legal. " If you are using stevia, and do

> not appear to be gaining any ground on SCD, it would be strongly

> recommended to eliminate the stevia for several weeks and keep a food

> log.

>

> -- Marilyn (New Orleans, Louisiana, USA)

>

>

>> If honey feeds yeast and my son has yeast problems along with

>> fruit, I am at

>> a loss for what to use as a sweetner?

>>

>> pecan post wrote: Hi Becky,

>>

>> I am not sure why agave is illegal.

>> Agave has saponins and fructans. Inulin is a type of fructan that is

>> illegal.

>> Maybe the reason is that it is similar to inulin.

>>

>> We all learned the hard way that Elaine is always right. LOL

>> Mimi

>> Former SCD rebel

>>

>>

>>> Does it feed yeast or something?

>>>

>>> pecan post wrote: Becky,

>>>

>>> I am so sorry but agave is not SCD legal.

>>>

>>> Mimi

>>> :

>>>> has anyone used agave as a sweetner instead of honey on SCD.

>>>> Becky

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ---------------------------------

>>> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s

>>> user

>> panel

>>> and lay it on us.

>>>

>>>

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Yes, Marilyn gives permission if one states that she is the author of

a forthcoming SCD cookbook.

Mimi

> May I have permission to forward the portions below to my local support

> group/listserve?

>

> -

>

> Stevia * caution * (list) Stevia is an herb native to South

> America,

> and is now grown and cultivated throughout the world. Stevia belongs

> to a family called Terpenoids. According to The Organic Constitutents

> of Higher Plants by Trevor , 2nd edition, page 158, " This

> class of glycosides (terpenoids) often have physiological effects on

> mammals and microorganisms. "

>

> Elaine has noted on the adult listserv that, " Its molecular structure

> resembles a steroid. It is not SCD legal. " However, on the Elaine's

> Children list, she indicated that it might be used in strictly limited

> quantities for those children who absolutely cannot tolerate either

> honey or saccharin.

>

> Powdered stevia should be approached with extreme caution. At least

> one manufacturer of organic stevia includes " erythritol " which they

> claim is a " natural free flowing agent " . Erythritol is what is called

> a sugar alcohol. Sugar alcohols include things like mannitol, xylitol,

> and sorbitol which are used in a lot of commercial " sugar-free " stuff.

> They're allowed to get away with that because normally, our guts can't

> digest those sugar alcohols. But the bad bugs in our guts can, and

> will have a field day on them.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Becky,

>

> You might want to try stevia. Here is post by Marilyn about stevia.

> Marilyn is writing a forthcoming cookbook about the cuisine of New

> Orleans.

>

> Mimi

>

It seems evryone freaks atthe mention of saccharine which of course is a

chemical, but I

used it since 1945 except when the Rat Study about Bladder Cancer was done and

has

since been refuted. Elaine mentions this in BTVC. I use saccharine (Hermasetas

tablets) in

bevrages and dissolve it in a bit of hot water before adding it to foods. Most

articles will

warn against extensive use of any articificial sweetener ad I am sure that most

of you still

shy away from saccharine but I am sharing my experience

http://www.sweetpoison.com/articles/0506/so_who_and_what_do

Consider saccharin. Research history proves that saccharin is safe for human

use, and

always has been. The pink stuff never caused cancer in humans after over one

hundred

years of use, nor was the 1960s laboratory study submitted for its public

banishment ever

proven to be legitimate.1 Saccharin has merely received a total of six FDA

complaints in its

100+ year history of use, whereas aspartame, found in the blue packet known as

NutraSweet's Equal®, had already received over 10,000 FDA complaints after ten

years of

use

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac

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Is STEVIA legal then?

carolfrilegh wrote:

>

> Hi Becky,

>

> You might want to try stevia. Here is post by Marilyn about stevia.

> Marilyn is writing a forthcoming cookbook about the cuisine of New

> Orleans.

>

> Mimi

>

It seems evryone freaks atthe mention of saccharine which of course is a

chemical, but I

used it since 1945 except when the Rat Study about Bladder Cancer was done and

has

since been refuted. Elaine mentions this in BTVC. I use saccharine (Hermasetas

tablets) in

bevrages and dissolve it in a bit of hot water before adding it to foods. Most

articles will

warn against extensive use of any articificial sweetener ad I am sure that most

of you still

shy away from saccharine but I am sharing my experience

http://www.sweetpoison.com/articles/0506/so_who_and_what_do

Consider saccharin. Research history proves that saccharin is safe for human

use, and

always has been. The pink stuff never caused cancer in humans after over one

hundred

years of use, nor was the 1960s laboratory study submitted for its public

banishment ever

proven to be legitimate.1 Saccharin has merely received a total of six FDA

complaints in its

100+ year history of use, whereas aspartame, found in the blue packet known as

NutraSweet's Equal®, had already received over 10,000 FDA complaints after ten

years of

use

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac

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pecan post wrote:

Yes, Marilyn gives permission if one states that she is the author of

a forthcoming SCD cookbook.

Mimi

> May I have permission to forward the portions below to my local support

> group/listserve?

>

> -

>

> Stevia * caution * (list) Stevia is an herb native to South

> America,

> and is now grown and cultivated throughout the world. Stevia belongs

> to a family called Terpenoids. According to The Organic Constitutents

> of Higher Plants by Trevor , 2nd edition, page 158, " This

> class of glycosides (terpenoids) often have physiological effects on

> mammals and microorganisms. "

>

> Elaine has noted on the adult listserv that, " Its molecular structure

> resembles a steroid. It is not SCD legal. " However, on the Elaine's

> Children list, she indicated that it might be used in strictly limited

> quantities for those children who absolutely cannot tolerate either

> honey or saccharin.

>

> Powdered stevia should be approached with extreme caution. At least

> one manufacturer of organic stevia includes " erythritol " which they

> claim is a " natural free flowing agent " . Erythritol is what is called

> a sugar alcohol. Sugar alcohols include things like mannitol, xylitol,

> and sorbitol which are used in a lot of commercial " sugar-free " stuff.

> They're allowed to get away with that because normally, our guts can't

> digest those sugar alcohols. But the bad bugs in our guts can, and

> will have a field day on them.

>

>

>

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Her last name is Alm.

> What is her last name then? I erased the original post.