Confused about yeast protocol

June 7, 2007

Hello everyone

I'm now sooooooo confused... my daughter has been SCD for 4 months and I know

she has yeast issues. She's having very little honey and fruit but still has

loose stools and can't even eat bananas because every time she eats them, she

gets even looser stools.

She's doing fine, I think (very moody and cries very easily) but I know she

needs extra help with the yeast overgrowth and don't know what to do. I've heard

that nystatin is not highly recommended because the yeast tends to grow again

when stopped. But now with the information on this article, I'm not longer sure

what's the best thing to do...

Is SCD going to help her get rid of the yeast overgrowth eventually? Should I

try Nystatin, Candex or natural antifungals? Please help, I want to start a

yeast protocol but don't know which one...

Any insights will be very appreciated.

Ximena

's mom. 3.5 yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 4 months.

Rob or Sunseri wrote:

You are not supposed to be too alkaline. Both overly alkaline and

overly acidic people have health problems.

-

Jeanne wrote:

A little confused, I always thought having an alkalined body was suppose to be

good and yeast/bacteria can't grow? Thanks

Jeanne

Rob or Sunseri wrote:

I recommend reading up on copper imbalances and candida. See below... -

http://www.drlwilson.com/Articles/candida.htm

CHRONIC CANDIDA ALBICANS

INFECTION

Yeasts, molds and funguses are one-celled organisms. Beneficial ones include

brewers and nutritional yeast, and lactobacillus acidophilus. Candida albicans

is not among them. It produces poisons including alcohol.

Candida is found in the air, water and food but not normally in our bodies. Slow

metabolism, deficient acid in the stomach, an over-alkaline intestinal tract and

copper imbalance allow candida to flourish in the body. Weak adrenals, improper

bowel flora, diets high in sugar and taking antibiotics, antacids, birth control

pills and steroid hormones contribute to candida infection.

SYMPTOMS OF CANDIDA

Symptoms range from chronic fatigue and depression to headaches, bloating, gas

and tightness in the shoulders. Candida can also contribute to brain fog, mood

swings, memory loss, itching, joint pain, indigestion, ulcers, cancer and many

sinus infections. Learning and behavior disorders are often due in part to

candida infection, especially in children who eat a lot of sugar. Chronic

candida can also contribute to irritable bowel syndrome, colitis, heartburn and

gastric acid reflux disease or GERD. One form of candida is invasive, burrows

into body organs and can be life-threatening.

Since candida albicans produces alcohol and acetaldehyde, it may also contribute

to many other subtle dysfunctions, including general toxicity, liver

dysfunction, nutrient deficiencies and more. Some practitioners blame most

illness on candida. I do not find this to be the case. However, it is very

common and an important contributor to ill health.

DETECTION

Symptoms are often excellent for detection. If one is tired or spacy after

eating sweets or a high-carbohydrate meal, candida is likely. If one gets yeast

infections, candida is present in the intestines as well. Gas or bloating that

improves when one stops eating sugars and carbohydrates is another simple

indicator of possible candida infection.

A simple test is to eliminate all sugars, fruit and juices for a week and take

an anti-candida remedy such as grapefruit seed extract. If one feels better, or

possibly worse due to a ëdie offí reaction, candida is likely present.

Antigen-antibody skin tests are another method of detection. Stool analysis is

also used for detection, though it can miss hidden candida organisms. On a hair

mineral analysis, copper imbalance is associated with candida. The role of

copper is discussed later in this article.

CAUSES - SLOW METABOLISM

In their order of importance, causes include slow metabolism, copper imbalance,

alkaline intestines and tissues, medications, high carbohydrate diets and other

toxins. Most people with candida are slow metabolizers. While their cells are

more acidic, their intercellular spaces are too alkaline. Their bodies do not

generate enough acid end products of metabolism such as lactic acid. Calcium, an

alkaline-forming element, also builds up adding to the alkalinity. Candida

thrives in an alkaline environment and becomes able to invade tissues and cause

serious illness.

Slow metabolizers are also often deficient in hydrochloric acid. Stomach acid

normally kills candida. This is one reason acidophilus, an acid-forming

organism, often helps alleviate candida.

COPPER

Copper is the bodyís natural anti-candida agent. Farmers often spray copper

sulfate on fruits and vegetables to kill yeast and molds. Water departments may

add copper compounds to drinking water for the same reason. Copper may be added

to swimming pools and hot tubs to control yeast. Copper favors aerobic

metabolism which disables yeast.

Everyone with candida has a copper imbalance. Most often, copper is present but

not available to the body. This is due to deficiency of ceruloplasmin, a copper

binding protein. Adrenal hormones are required to produce ceruloplasmin.

Underactive, exhausted adrenal glands or sluggish liver activity cause a

decrease in ceruloplasmin production. As a result, copper is not properly bound

and is less available to the body. Until the copper-adrenal-liver condition is

corrected, candida is difficult to control

Birth control pills impair copper metabolism. Some antibiotics act by removing

copper from the liver. Steroid therapy slows the adrenal glands which makes

copper less available. All can cause or aggravate candida.

Women are more prone to candida infection. Copper imbalance is more prevalent in

women as they tend to have more sluggish adrenals than men. Copper levels in

women rise before the menstrual period. This is a common time of the month for

women to experience yeast infections. Click here to read more about copper

imbalance.

MEDICATIONS

Antibiotic overuse ranks high as a cause for candida. Acidophilus and other

ëfriendlyí yeasts help maintain an acidic intestinal environment. Antibiotics

often kill acidophilus. E. coli and other bacteria replace the friendly

organisms and produce an alkaline environment in which candida thrives.

Some antibiotics are also toxic for the liver, and may impair its ability to

produce ceruloplasmin. They can persist in the liver for years. They should be

used only as an absolutely last resort and not for viral infections. Antibiotic

residues are now found in tap water. The drugs are excreted in urine and feces,

do not break down and reappear in city water supplies. This has been documented

in several nations. With infrared saunas, vitamin A, vitamin C and propolis,

antibiotics are very rarely needed. Click here to read an article on

antibiotics.

Millions of pounds of antibiotics are also fed to animals. Commercially grown

meats, poultry, milk and eggs contain antibiotic residues. Although this occurs

less today, it is best to buy meat, poultry and dairy products from sources that

do not use antibiotics in animal feed. Animals raised in a healthful manner

rarely require antibiotics.

Antacids and other drugs that reduce acid may worsen candida by creating a

deficiency of stomach acid. Ulcers and heartburn are often due to wheat allergy

or factors other than excess stomach acid. Antacid drugs include Prilosec,

Prevacid, Zantac, Pepcid, Tagamet, Mylanta, Malox, Gaviscon, Riopan, Rolaids,

Tums, Nexium and others. Birth control pills and steroid drugs such as cortisone

or prednisone also contribute to candida.

DIETARY CARBOHYDRATES

Candida starts in the intestines. Excessive consumption of carbohydrates,

particularly sugars, encourages candida infection. The adrenal glands regulate

blood sugar. Sugars in the diet weaken the adrenal glands by causing large blood

sugar fluctuations.

Sugar is the natural food for candida. Sugar and carbohydrate cravings may be

candida organisms calling for dinner. When ëdeprivedí of carbohydrates, the

yeast die, releasing toxic substances. These can cause unpleasant ëdie offí

reactions that can draw one back to sugary foods to end the discomfort.

Many, many people overeat on carbohydrate foods. Besides the common foods such

as starches and sugars, they include milk, fruit, juices and sweetened

electrolyte drinks.

OTHER TOXIC SUBSTANCES

Excessive mercury often accompanies copper toxicity. Mercury can stimulate the

thyroid which causes adrenal imbalance. Several years are needed to remove

excess mercury. Cadmium is a highly toxic metal that interferes with zinc needed

to balance copper and required for proper functioning of the adrenals. Cadmium

also accumulates in the liver and can impair its ability to synthesize

ceruloplasmin.

Lead toxicity interferes with calcium metabolism. This can slow the adrenals by

altering the electrolyte balance. Toxic chemicals found in the home, air, water

and food also accumulate in the liver, impairing its ability to produce

ceruloplasmin.

IMPROPER BOWEL FLORA

Improper bowel flora is extremely common and often contributes to candida

infections. Much of the problem is due to antibiotic use and constant ingestion

of small doses of antibiotics found in drinking water and commercial animal

products. Other toxic chemicals or additives in foods may also be a factor.

Low fiber in the diet, parasitic infections and stress also impair bowel

activity. Debris in the intestines, often in pockets in the colon, also harbors

bacteria that interfere with normal bowel flora. Constipation also aggravates

candida infection. If one does not have a daily bowel movement, extra fiber, ox

bile, pancreatin and magnesium will usually correct the problem. Herbal

laxatives can be habit-forming.

One may, however, be constipated even if one has daily bowel movements. Food

should pass through the intestines within 48 hours. When it is delayed, harmful

organisms have more time to multiply and generate toxins. To test bowel transit

time, eat some beets at one meal and note how long it takes for the red color to

show up in the stool. Extra fiber and an improved diet will often decrease bowel

transit time.

SUGAR ADDICTION

Alcohol produced by candida can contribute to fatigue, spaciness, impaired

judgment, emotional problems and learning and behavior disorders in children.

Some people notice they feel tired after eating sugar. Sugar feeds their candida

which increases production of alcohol. Alcoholics are often addicted to sugar

without understanding the connection.

Sugar addiction may occur because depriving candida of their sugar reduces

alcohol production. This causes withdrawal symptoms including negative thoughts,

anxiety, shakiness and fatigue. This drives many people back to sugar to enhance

alcohol output. Hypoglycemia due to weak adrenals is another factor in sugar

addiction.

IMPAIRED IMMUNE SYSTEM

Factors other than copper imbalance may also impair the bodyís immune system,

reducing its ability to defend itself against candida and other intestinal

infections. The most common causes are nutrient deficiencies and excesses of

toxic metals or toxic chemicals. Click here to read an article on the immune

system.

CORRECTION - DIET

Dietary change is most important, especially minimizing all sweets including

fruit juices. This includes reducing cookies, cakes, ice cream, pastries, honey,

rice syrup and barley malt used in soy and rice drinks and other products.

Stevia and artificial sweeteners are somewhat better as they do not contain

sugars, though they present other problems. Stevia contains some lead, however.

Reducing all sweetener use is best.

Reducing grains may be helpful, especially wheat and spelt, and at times rye,

oats and barley. These foods include breads, pasta, deep-fried food, cream soups

thickened with flour, crackers, cakes and cookies.

Reducing fruit is also helpful. Ripe fruit is best, as the sugars are more

quickly absorbed. Avoid very sweet fruits such as dates, figs and dried fruit.

Best fruits are apples, pears, peaches, berries, kiwi and other less sweet

fruits.

Reduce dried beans such as pintos, lentils, black beans and peanuts. Peanut

butter is very sweet and best avoided. Toasted almond, cashew or sunflower seed

butters are much better.

Some candida books recommend eliminating all fermented foods such as cheese,

wine, pickles and yeasted breads. This is usually unnecessary unless one is

specifically allergic to all yeast. Candida albicans is very different from

yeasts in bread, wine and cheese.

Milk and buttermilk are high in sugar. Soda pop, Kool-aid, fruit and vegetable

juices and sweetened teas are best avoided. Unsweetened live-culture yogurt is

good. Unsweetened tea, water or water with lemon are excellent.

Strict vegetarian diets are high in starch and tend to worsen candida. Diets low

in protein can also make it worse. Natural meats, poultry, eggs, nuts and goat

cheese may be eaten liberally.

The very strict diet in the yeast books is often unnecessary when combined with

a nutritional supplement program to correct underlying causes. If one follows a

strict candida diet, eat more fats and oils for calories or one will lose a lot

of weight.

EATING HABITS

Humans have a limited ability to digest cellulose fiber in foods. Proper chewing

breaks down fiber so that more can be digested. Insufficient chewing causes

excessive fibrous material to remain that can feed candida. Eating in a hurry,

in oneís car, when working or when upset or anxious also impairs starch

digestion and worsens candida.

LIFESTYLE

Lifestyle plays a critical role. Reducing stress rests the adrenal glands and

helps improve copper metabolism. Plenty of rest and sleep are important, as lack

of rest stresses the adrenal glands. Stimulant use such as caffeine or heavy

exercise decimates the adrenal glands. Improving eating habits and positive

emotions and attitudes reduce stress and promote healthy digestion. Deep

breathing and good posture assist oxygenation of the body which inhibits

candida.

ANTI-CANDIDA MEDICATION

Substances that control candida include grapefruit seed extract, tannic acid

(Tanalbit), garlic and acidophilus. I am impressed with the use of lactobacillus

plantarum, which digests protein as well as sugars. Other natural products are

caprylic acid, other medium-chain fatty acids and echinacea. Some herbal

preparations may be toxic. Anti-candida substances may not be needed if body

chemistry is balanced with diet, excellent habits and lifestyle correction.

Prescription drugs for candida include Diflucan, Nystatin and Nizoril. These may

be needed in emergencies, but are toxic for the liver. One should avoid them if

possible. If more natural methods are not working and one needs drugs, remain on

them no more than two weeks. Anti-fungal products are helpful, but are not the

entire answer. They control symptoms but do not address underlying causes.

NUTRITIONAL BALANCING

Correcting slow metabolism, copper imbalance, weak adrenals and an over-alkaline

body chemistry requires a hair mineral analysis. When performed and interpreted

properly, it can assess body chemistry and guide recommendations for diet,

supplements and detoxification procedures. The process can take several years

and greatly improves general health.

Many times candida infection is just one of many imbalances contributing to poor

health. It is often a symptom of deeper systemic problems that ought to be

addressed. The advantage of a nutritional balancing program is it is not a

symptomatic approach. It addresses many imbalances and deeper causes at the same

time.

HOW LONG UNTIL I AM HEALTHY?

A better diet often leads to improvement in a few days to a week. Anti-candida

medications also often work quickly. Permanently improving copper balance,

eliminating toxic metals and enhancing the oxidation rate takes longer, up to

several years. However, the time and effort are well worth it.

If one has taken antibiotics recently or took a lot in the past, more time is

needed to remove residues stored in the liver and other organs. Do not be

discouraged if results take longer.

Sauna therapy can significantly speed up correction of candida infection. It

assists elimination of toxins, inhibits the sympathetic nervous system, improves

circulation and oxygenation and directly disables candida organisms. The

electric light sauna described in the last issue is an inexpensive way anyone

can enjoy the great benefits of infrared sauna therapy. Sauna therapy is the

finest method of eliminating unwanted organisms in the body.

The best results are achieved by combining an excellent diet and lifestyle with

a nutrition program based on mineral analysis to correct underlying metabolic

imbalances. Anti-candida supplements or medication may be helpful in

long-standing and severe cases. With these methods, most candida can be

permanently corrected.

Silvia Payne wrote:

i found this same article in another location on the internet, but

this version has a new paragraph added to it...about the specific

carbohydrate diet. here is the new paragraph (found it at http://

www.nutritioninstitute.com/Autism.html):

" Some people for their autistic children try the specific

carbohydrate diet. This diet is used for people with major allergic

reactions. This diet is not an anti-yeast diet. This diet consists of

simple food molecules which the yeast Candida can easily use to grow.

For fighting yeast, the specific carbohydrate diet has no place and

may make the yeast and the autism worse. "

for us, the scd helped greatly with food allergies, and to lessen the

burden on her gut. this in turn helped reduce her eczema (she does

not have autism). it has also helped us to be able to identify which

foods do and do not agree with her. but, we've had to modify it in

order to make it work for us: no honey in any amount, and very little

fruit, and only the least sweet fruits. and, i believe it made her

yeast overgrowth worse: at the end of the 2nd month, she and i both

had major yeast overgrowth which i battled for the entire third month

(even though we had been taking goat yogurt since week 2 and were

using no honey). finally i took patty's recommendation to start using

coconut oil and that got the yeast back under control.

i am very grateful that i found the scd AND i am still looking for

ways to cure my daughter's yeast problem (the coconut oil seems to

work only while we're taking it). i read up a little more on the

author's anti-yeast program and he does not allow nuts. also no

apples, cinnamon, bananas, vinegar, or dried mustard. i'm curious to

know though if he meant the processed nuts that you buy to eat as a

snack, as opposed to the raw nuts that we all use for our baked goods.

silvia

scd 5 months

> http://www.msnusers.com/parentsofvaccinedamagedchildren/

> antiyeasttherapyampautism.msnw

June 7, 2007

I always feel that it is best to try the natural method first. When my son had

some lab work done in March that reflected significant disbiosis, our DAN wanted

to go the prescription route right away. I told her that I really didn't want

to do that because of sooo many parent reports that the yeast would just come

right back for their child, and even heartier each time. She agreed taht it

would be good to try the natural antifungal route first in conjunction with

Candex. She said we could give it one month, and if the disbiosis was not down

significantly or completely gone, we'd need to go the prescription route. We

did natural antifungal in the morning. I would rotate between grapefruit seed

extract, olive leaf extract, or oil of oregano. I used three drops of which

ever one I was doing that day in his morning drink. In the evening, I gave him

two acidopholus capsule, and one Candex capsule in his drink just before bed.

The lab work should be in a couple of days, but I expect the disbiosis to be

gone. He has not had any gas or burping, so I think we're pretty safe. I would

recommend you try this same method for a month. If it works, then great. If

not, then you at least tried the natural route first before going on to the

prescription method.

Meleah

Confused about yeast protocol

Hello everyone

I'm now sooooooo confused... my daughter has been SCD for 4 months and I know

she has yeast issues. She's having very little honey and fruit but still has

loose stools and can't even eat bananas because every time she eats them, she

gets even looser stools.

She's doing fine, I think (very moody and cries very easily) but I know she

needs extra help with the yeast overgrowth and don't know what to do. I've heard

that nystatin is not highly recommended because the yeast tends to grow again

when stopped. But now with the information on this article, I'm not longer sure

what's the best thing to do...

Is SCD going to help her get rid of the yeast overgrowth eventually? Should I

try Nystatin, Candex or natural antifungals? Please help, I want to start a

yeast protocol but don't know which one...

Any insights will be very appreciated.

Ximena

's mom. 3.5 yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 4 months.

Rob or Sunseri wrote:

You are not supposed to be too alkaline. Both overly alkaline and overly

acidic people have health problems.

-

Jeanne wrote:

A little confused, I always thought having an alkalined body was suppose to be

good and yeast/bacteria can't grow? Thanks

Jeanne

Rob or Sunseri wrote:

I recommend reading up on copper imbalances and candida. See below... -

http://www.drlwilson.com/Articles/candida.htm

CHRONIC CANDIDA ALBICANS

INFECTION

Yeasts, molds and funguses are one-celled organisms. Beneficial ones include

brewers and nutritional yeast, and lactobacillus acidophilus. Candida albicans

is not among them. It produces poisons including alcohol.

Candida is found in the air, water and food but not normally in our bodies.

Slow metabolism, deficient acid in the stomach, an over-alkaline intestinal

tract and copper imbalance allow candida to flourish in the body. Weak adrenals,

improper bowel flora, diets high in sugar and taking antibiotics, antacids,

birth control pills and steroid hormones contribute to candida infection.

SYMPTOMS OF CANDIDA

Symptoms range from chronic fatigue and depression to headaches, bloating, gas

and tightness in the shoulders. Candida can also contribute to brain fog, mood

swings, memory loss, itching, joint pain, indigestion, ulcers, cancer and many

sinus infections. Learning and behavior disorders are often due in part to

candida infection, especially in children who eat a lot of sugar. Chronic

candida can also contribute to irritable bowel syndrome, colitis, heartburn and

gastric acid reflux disease or GERD. One form of candida is invasive, burrows

into body organs and can be life-threatening.

Since candida albicans produces alcohol and acetaldehyde, it may also

contribute to many other subtle dysfunctions, including general toxicity, liver

dysfunction, nutrient deficiencies and more. Some practitioners blame most

illness on candida. I do not find this to be the case. However, it is very

common and an important contributor to ill health.

DETECTION

Symptoms are often excellent for detection. If one is tired or spacy after

eating sweets or a high-carbohydrate meal, candida is likely. If one gets yeast

infections, candida is present in the intestines as well. Gas or bloating that

improves when one stops eating sugars and carbohydrates is another simple

indicator of possible candida infection.

A simple test is to eliminate all sugars, fruit and juices for a week and take

an anti-candida remedy such as grapefruit seed extract. If one feels better, or

possibly worse due to a ëdie offí reaction, candida is likely present.

Antigen-antibody skin tests are another method of detection. Stool analysis is

also used for detection, though it can miss hidden candida organisms. On a hair

mineral analysis, copper imbalance is associated with candida. The role of

copper is discussed later in this article.

CAUSES - SLOW METABOLISM

In their order of importance, causes include slow metabolism, copper

imbalance, alkaline intestines and tissues, medications, high carbohydrate diets

and other toxins. Most people with candida are slow metabolizers. While their

cells are more acidic, their intercellular spaces are too alkaline. Their bodies

do not generate enough acid end products of metabolism such as lactic acid.

Calcium, an alkaline-forming element, also builds up adding to the alkalinity.

Candida thrives in an alkaline environment and becomes able to invade tissues

and cause serious illness.

Slow metabolizers are also often deficient in hydrochloric acid. Stomach acid

normally kills candida. This is one reason acidophilus, an acid-forming

organism, often helps alleviate candida.

COPPER

Copper is the bodyís natural anti-candida agent. Farmers often spray copper

sulfate on fruits and vegetables to kill yeast and molds. Water departments may

add copper compounds to drinking water for the same reason. Copper may be added

to swimming pools and hot tubs to control yeast. Copper favors aerobic

metabolism which disables yeast.

Everyone with candida has a copper imbalance. Most often, copper is present

but not available to the body. This is due to deficiency of ceruloplasmin, a

copper binding protein. Adrenal hormones are required to produce ceruloplasmin.

Underactive, exhausted adrenal glands or sluggish liver activity cause a

decrease in ceruloplasmin production. As a result, copper is not properly bound

and is less available to the body. Until the copper-adrenal-liver condition is

corrected, candida is difficult to control

Birth control pills impair copper metabolism. Some antibiotics act by removing

copper from the liver. Steroid therapy slows the adrenal glands which makes

copper less available. All can cause or aggravate candida.

Women are more prone to candida infection. Copper imbalance is more prevalent

in women as they tend to have more sluggish adrenals than men. Copper levels in