coconut kefir aids in autism recovery

[Guest guest]

here's a link to an article about our using coconut kefir to help

Baxter's gut issues. We also used it while chelating to keep the gut

in check. Love the stuff!!

http://bodyecology.com/07/06/08/overcome_autism_rotavirus.php

All the best,

Baxter's mom

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

<<here's a link to an article about our using coconut kefir to help

> Baxter's gut issues. We also used it while chelating to keep the

gut

> in check. Love the stuff!!

>

> http://bodyecology.com/07/06/08/overcome_autism_rotavirus.php>>

Young coconut kefir is SCD illegal.

Kefir is not recommended for newbies on the SCD. Elaine wrote that

once a person was well they could try it. Young coconut milk is not

legal because it is an unripe fruit.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

How long in to SCD would you say one should be before even trying kefir? Does

one use the same amount of starter that would be used for making yogurt? For

example, a half gallon of milk uses 1/4 tsp. of Progurt starter? Would I use

that same amount of Progurt starter if I am making a half gallon of coconut

kefir? Again, how long should one be on SCD before even considering this?

Thanks.

Meleah

coconut kefir aids in autism recovery

here's a link to an article about our using coconut kefir to help

Baxter's gut issues. We also used it while chelating to keep the gut

in check. Love the stuff!!

http://bodyecology.com/07/06/08/overcome_autism_rotavirus.php

All the best,

Baxter's mom

[Guest guest]

The kefir is an advanced food.

I used to be a kefir advocate long before I heard about the Body

Ecology Diet. I had used it on my older son and he still drinks it

daily.

Elaine was not thrilled with my love for kefir....We clashed on that

issue but still loved each other. I did however read the messages on

the Yahoo list that was especially created for children with ASD who

were doing the Body Ecology Diet. I followed the messages during the

first year of that diet and was surprised to find out that some

children did get long lasting bad reactions from the kefir.

I learned the hard way that Elaineis always right.

Mimi

Reformed SCD rebel

PS I will discuss more about kefir tomorrow night. Kefir is fine for

advanced SCD folks.

> Sheila,

> How long in to SCD would you say one should be before even trying kefir?

> Does one use the same amount of starter that would be used for making

> yogurt? For example, a half gallon of milk uses 1/4 tsp. of Progurt

> starter? Would I use that same amount of Progurt starter if I am making a

> half gallon of coconut kefir? Again, how long should one be on SCD before

> even considering this? Thanks.

> Meleah

> coconut kefir aids in autism recovery

>

>

> here's a link to an article about our using coconut kefir to help

> Baxter's gut issues. We also used it while chelating to keep the gut

> in check. Love the stuff!!

>

> http://bodyecology.com/07/06/08/overcome_autism_rotavirus.php

>

> All the best,

>

> Baxter's mom

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So, do you think a year in to SCD is long enough? iel is able to tolerate

raw fruits and vegetables, beans, ect. He certainly is completely recovered

from ASD, but is well on his way. I'd say he will lose his diagnosis within the

next year. Should I try it, or stay away?

Meleah

coconut kefir aids in autism recovery

>

>

> here's a link to an article about our using coconut kefir to help

> Baxter's gut issues. We also used it while chelating to keep the gut

> in check. Love the stuff!!

>

> http://bodyecology.com/07/06/08/overcome_autism_rotavirus.php

>

> All the best,

>

> Baxter's mom

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow Sheila! thanks for your post! I had no idea and now feel badly

about posting here. Thank you for pointing it out. Interesting

cause its so gut healing but makes sense. SORRY EVERYONE!

Best,

>

> Hi ,

>

> <<here's a link to an article about our using coconut kefir to help

> > Baxter's gut issues. We also used it while chelating to keep the

> gut

> > in check. Love the stuff!!

> >

> > http://bodyecology.com/07/06/08/overcome_autism_rotavirus.php>>

>

> Young coconut kefir is SCD illegal.

>

> Kefir is not recommended for newbies on the SCD. Elaine wrote that

> once a person was well they could try it. Young coconut milk is

not

> legal because it is an unripe fruit.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

Mimi -- what were the bad reactions to the keifer?

We did young coconut kefir YCK for a year in 2004. I don't think it did

anything bad to (or noticably good), but one day we ran out of it and I

wanted to give him something sour/strange to drink like the YCK (so that he

wouldn't get something yummy like lemonade and then not want the YCK once it was

done fermenting). I gave him watered down aloe juice. He had better stools on

that I realized so I abandoned the YCK after 1 year. I never drank it as it

gave me an upset stomach. The fermented coconut " pudding " really caused gas

(the pudding is what you make with the coconut meat after you empty the coconut

water). A friend of mine became a BED counselor and her sons did really well

with the YCK. She later wrote a book that is based on BED for autism with some

changes in the diet that helped her sons. One of them was to only do YCK

twice/week, because she attibuted her son's coconut sensitivity to drinking so

much of the YCK. They do well on it now if it is

given twice/week, not a quart/day as BED advises.

The argument for keifer (coconut or dairy) vs. yogurt is that keifer can

recolonize the GI tract while yogurt cannot. Both are recognized as good, but

keifer is thought to be superior by many (not just BEDers). I have read that

keifer is SCD legal if fermented 24 hours (which is how long keifer is always

fermented I believe), but then again I read that it is only for the advanced

(after 1 year). Mimi, I look forward to you shedding some light on this. Also,

is there a story on kombucha tea? I love that stuff! Is that eventually

allowed? I'm thinking no.

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pecan post wrote:

The kefir is an advanced food.

I used to be a kefir advocate long before I heard about the Body

Ecology Diet. I had used it on my older son and he still drinks it

daily.

Elaine was not thrilled with my love for kefir....We clashed on that

issue but still loved each other. I did however read the messages on

the Yahoo list that was especially created for children with ASD who

were doing the Body Ecology Diet. I followed the messages during the

first year of that diet and was surprised to find out that some

children did get long lasting bad reactions from the kefir.

I learned the hard way that Elaineis always right.

Mimi

Reformed SCD rebel

PS I will discuss more about kefir tomorrow night. Kefir is fine for

advanced SCD folks.

> Sheila,

> How long in to SCD would you say one should be before even trying kefir?

> Does one use the same amount of starter that would be used for making

> yogurt? For example, a half gallon of milk uses 1/4 tsp. of Progurt

> starter? Would I use that same amount of Progurt starter if I am making a

> half gallon of coconut kefir? Again, how long should one be on SCD before

> even considering this? Thanks.

> Meleah

> coconut kefir aids in autism recovery

>

>

> here's a link to an article about our using coconut kefir to help

> Baxter's gut issues. We also used it while chelating to keep the gut

> in check. Love the stuff!!

>

> http://bodyecology.com/07/06/08/overcome_autism_rotavirus.php

>

> All the best,

>

> Baxter's mom

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You need a different starter to make keifer -- one that contains yeast. Better

yet are keifer grains.

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robin wrote:

Sheila,

How long in to SCD would you say one should be before even trying kefir? Does

one use the same amount of starter that would be used for making yogurt? For

example, a half gallon of milk uses 1/4 tsp. of Progurt starter? Would I use

that same amount of Progurt starter if I am making a half gallon of coconut

kefir? Again, how long should one be on SCD before even considering this?

Thanks.

Meleah

coconut kefir aids in autism recovery

here's a link to an article about our using coconut kefir to help

Baxter's gut issues. We also used it while chelating to keep the gut

in check. Love the stuff!!

http://bodyecology.com/07/06/08/overcome_autism_rotavirus.php

All the best,

Baxter's mom

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

No need to feel badly. : ) Your post let me to explain why YCK is illegal.

Sheila

Wow Sheila! thanks for your post! I had no idea and now feel badly

about posting here. Thank you for pointing it out. Interesting

cause its so gut healing but makes sense. SORRY EVERYONE!

Best,

>

> Hi ,

>

> <<here's a link to an article about our using coconut kefir to help

> > Baxter's gut issues. We also used it while chelating to keep the

> gut

> > in check. Love the stuff!!

> >

> > http://bodyecology. com/07/06/ 08/overcome_ autism_rotavirus .php>>

>

> Young coconut kefir is SCD illegal.

>

> Kefir is not recommended for newbies on the SCD. Elaine wrote that

> once a person was well they could try it. Young coconut milk is

not

> legal because it is an unripe fruit.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Meleah,

<<So, do you think a year in to SCD is long enough? >>

A year on the diet is good but more important are the state of his

bowels.

Since he is able to tolerate raw fruits, veggies and beans it sounds

as if he is doing well.

If he tolerates other fermented he may be okay with properly made

Kefir. Just try a small amount to start with. (Remember after

fermenting it has ~5% residual lactose).

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/kefir.htm

http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/ferfun.html

Sheila

<<iel is able to tolerate raw fruits and vegetables, beans,

ect. He certainly is completely recovered from ASD, but is well on

his way. I'd say he will lose his diagnosis within the next year.

Should I try it, or stay away?

> Meleah>>

[Guest guest]

He does tolerate the yogurt just fine. I did some reading this weekend on the

sites that Mimi put links on a post for about kefir. Now I'm wondering how good

it is to give a child kefir since it does have an alcohol content...so it

appearred to me when reading. Is this true?

Meleah

Re: coconut kefir aids in autism recovery

Hi Meleah,

<<So, do you think a year in to SCD is long enough? >>

A year on the diet is good but more important are the state of his

bowels.

Since he is able to tolerate raw fruits, veggies and beans it sounds

as if he is doing well.

If he tolerates other fermented he may be okay with properly made

Kefir. Just try a small amount to start with. (Remember after

fermenting it has ~5% residual lactose).

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/kefir.htm

http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/ferfun.html

Sheila

<<iel is able to tolerate raw fruits and vegetables, beans,

ect. He certainly is completely recovered from ASD, but is well on

his way. I'd say he will lose his diagnosis within the next year.

Should I try it, or stay away?

> Meleah>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Meleah,

***Newbies reading this: Kefir is only for those doing very well who

are symptom free***

Yes, there is alcohol produced in Kefir.

0.06%-3% alcohol. From http://www.kefir.biz/ferm.htm " The average

alcohol content in home brewing is around 0.5% with a loose lid and

1% in an airtight jar "

http://jds.fass.org/cgi/reprint/79/6/937.pdf

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs

mom of and

> He does tolerate the yogurt just fine. I did some reading this

weekend on the sites that Mimi put links on a post for about kefir.

Now I'm wondering how good it is to give a child kefir since it does

have an alcohol content...so it appearred to me when reading. Is

this true?

> Meleah