Back to the ER again tonight for Brock

[Guest guest]

Hi Sam,

Chronic Panc. and/or acute Panc. can definately be most difficult to deal

with. So, again, I suggest a good relationship with a good GI doctor can be of

great help. I assume from your postings you are extremely frustrated and seem to

feel you are being manulipulated and being involved with a most difficult

situation. From far away, and through your computer screen there is very little

I

can offer to relieve the conditions the either you or Brock are in.

I would only suggest that time does have a way of resolving issues and

conditions. One normally cannot keep showing up at an ER for pain meds forever.

And

medical resolultion of this problem while may be slow in developing will

eventually be developed.

Step back, take a deep breath, and try to have a view of the longer term may

be of some level of relief for you at this time. I hate to sound like a

" fortune teller " but that's the only insight I can provide.

Best wishes, Poncho - GA

[Guest guest]

All:

Okay, I am a little frustrated! Yesterday, Brock went to the ER

because he threw up once. We just went out to dinner with my bosses

children and he was playing with the 5 year old son. I didn't see

this happen, and believe me I was keeping my eye on them. Brock

claims the the little boy hit him in the stomach and now he has to

go to the ER. If the 5 year old would have hit him hard, I think

that everyone at the table would have seen it. Usually if I even

touch his stomach he yells at me. Is your stomach that sensitive to

a slight brush. I JUST DON'T GET IT! Everyday, it is some new

excuse to go to the ER and it always seems to be at night.

Am I being to hard on him. He did just fine all day was up and

walking around, happy, didn't complain about any pain at all. He

didn't even eat hardly anything at dinner. He ate one small, and I

mean small fajita.

Now he is telling me he wants to go to a different ER other than the

one he went to yesterday. He bounces back and forth between two

hospitals in our area. They are not affiliated with each other. So

neither one is aware of when he goes to the other.

HELP!!!!! If you think I am overreacting please let me know.

Sam

[Guest guest]

Sam,

I hope this gets to you before tomorrow. It seems my posts take that

long to get posted for some reason.

ANYWAY!! I will bet you dollars to donuts those 2 hospitals DO know

about his visits to each other. They have " flags " so to speak for drug

seekers and now adays, everything is automated by name and Social

Security number when the really big drugs are being used.

And I have been elbowed in the pancreas and while it was painful for

me, I didn't have to hit up the ER because of it. Has Brock been

diagnosed that he needs a total pancreatonomy (sp)? If not.....and I am

being general here, you are not over reacting and he defiantly has a

drug problem.

I am aware that everyone's pancreas problems and pain are different then

others, but it would appear to me that if he is this bad off, that he

should have had that sucker out a long time ago! I think he needs to

detox, understand that pancreatitis is a HORRIBLE, lifelong illness and

it has to learn to deal with this. A person cannot take pain pills

every time a little pain comes along, or just because they wanna forget

something. And they cannot depend upon them for ever to get them

through the day just because they like the high. But hey, I guess it

could be worse. He could be drinking on top of all this. So I would say

there is a plus in his column for not doing that.

My husband was getting that way with his vicodin and I had to step in

and let him know about himself. He would tell me " my knee hurts, I need

them " , even when he wasn't feeling pain. He does need a total knee

replacement but come on. He even tried the " well the bottle says take 2

every 6 hours " ....but he forgot to read to me out loud where it said " as

needed for pain " .

He also didn't take into consideration that he should only take them

that often if was in constant, moderate to severe pain. You see, if he

REALLY thought about all that and admitted it to him self or

even...heavens forbid.....said that out loud, he might just realize he

was becoming a drug addict on them. He also told me he liked to take

the vicodin because they " pepped him up " and he was tired all the time.

He's 54 and I am 40. Hey! I'm tired too.

If, in my condition and illness, I can " suffer " through pain without

having to reach for that bottle every time, then so could he. When he

sees me hurting his first response is, " take a pill " and I tell him GET

A GRIP!!! Lets see if this will go away with concentrating on a focal

point, breathing techniques and relaxation. Sounds alot like Lamaze,

huh?! And it works!!

It doesn't always work as well as that pain pill could or would, but it

does help the pain get to the point where I can tolerate it without the

use of drugs during the day. Maybe Brock is far worse off than I

am....and that very well may be, alot of people are.....but I don't see,

from what you have been writing, that he is doing this for his pain, but

for the drugs themselves.

And why wouldn't he wanna go back to the same place he was at last night

unless something was said to him that you don't know about since you

weren't there. At some point someone will catch on and he will REALLY

be in a world of hurt then.

Leave pamphlets around your house about drug abuse, talk to his doctor

(are you married?) talk to his family, try an intervention. While you

cannot force him to get help, you can put all the info at his fingertips

that he needs to get it. And then you will/would have nothing to feel

upset about if he decides not to do this and something bad happens to

him. You can also join Narcotics Annon. to help yourself deal with HIS

addiction.

You sound completely concerned and frustrated for good reasons. I

applaud you for staying with him, because he really does need you but I

do not think he has figured that one out yet. This really is a tough

illness and one that can make a person drug addicted.

In my opinion there is a difference between drug addiction for

recreational use and drug dependency for pain relief, true pain relief.

I don't think you are over reacting at all. Just do the best that you

can, and do all that you can to help him through this, so you have no

regrets should he leave you no choice but an ultimatum you may not

really be wanting.

God Bless You......

Sandy in Ca

twinblair2 wrote:

>Now he is telling me he wants to go to a different ER other than the

>one he went to yesterday. He bounces back and forth between two

>hospitals in our area. They are not affiliated with each other. So

>neither one is aware of when he goes to the other.

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>HELP!!!!! If you think I am overreacting please let me know.

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>Sam

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