Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Here is some helpful information about B12 deficiency. Borderline B12 deficiency can sometimes cause symptoms so dramatic that B12 deficiency may be rejected as a possible cause because it may be thought that such symptoms wouldn't be caused by a mere borderline deficiency. B12 deficiency sometimes goes undiagnosed until the symptoms become moderate to severe, although this is not necessarily the fault of the medical profession. The symptoms often come on so slowly that a B12-deficient individual may become accustomed to them and not complain until the symptoms become severe. An abnormally low level of vitamin B12<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Supp&childId=Vitamin_B12> (cobalamin) is a factor in many disorders. The absorption of dietary vitamin B12 occurs in the small intestine and requires a secretion from the stomach known as intrinsic factor. If intrinsic factor is deficient, absorption of vitamin B12 is severely diminished. Vitamin B12 deficiency impairs the body's ability to make blood, accelerates blood cell destruction, and damages the nervous system. The result is pernicious anemia (PA). In the classical definition, PA refers only to B12 deficiency anemia caused by a lack of intrinsic factor. True PA is probably an autoimmune disease. The immune system<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Immune\ _Function> destroys cells in the stomach that secrete intrinsic factor. Many people with PA have both chronic inflammation of the stomach lining, called atrophic gastritis, and antibodies that fight their intrinsic factor-secreting cells.1 The term pernicious anemia is sometimes used colloquially to refer to any anemia caused by vitamin B12 deficiency. Vitamin B12 deficiency can be due to malabsorption<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId\ =Malabsorption> of dietary B12 despite normal levels of intrinsic factor. For example, celiac disease<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Celia\ c_Disease> and Crohn's disease<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Crohn\ s> may cause B12 malabsorption, which can lead to anemia. Less common causes of B12 deficiency include gastrointestinal surgery, pancreatic disease<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Pancr\ eatic_Insufficiency>, intestinal parasites<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Par\ asites>, and certain drugs. Pregnancy<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Pre\ gnancy>, hyperthyroidism, and advanced stages of cancer<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Cancer\ _Diet> may increase the body's requirement for B12, sometimes leading to a deficiency state. Low stomach acid<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Indigest\ ion>, known as hypochlorhydria, interferes with the absorption of B12 from food but not from supplements. Aging is associated with a decrease in the normal secretion of stomach acid. As a result, some older people with normal levels of intrinsic factor and with no clear cause for malabsorption will become vitamin B12-deficient unless they take at least a few micrograms per day of vitamin B12<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Supp&childId=Vitamin_B12> from supplements. Low stomach acid will resolve with the SCDiet. It is often caused by Candida overgrowth and gut disbiosis. A healthy typical body requires very little vitamin b12 or cobalamin and most of us get sufficient quantities of it in our normal meals to satisfy our daily requirements. Although it's rare to see vitamin b12 deficiency symptoms it can still be useful to be able to recognize them just in case. If you are a typical person and do not have intestinal disease you likely do not have this problem. It is rare. Many doctors will miss you! Normal folk are most vulnerable to vitamin b12 deficiency if you've vegan and don't use the available dietary supplements containing vitamin b12. Infants breast-feeding from vegan mothers can also be at risk. Vitamin b12 supplements are generally regarded as safe because there are few known adverse effects of overdose. The main symptom that arises from vitamin b12 deficiency is a type of anaemia that causes you to feel tired, weak and lethargic. You might also feel nauseous, constipated and become very flatulent (gas). You may also lose your appetite and suffer weight loss. More severe cases can give vitamin b12 deficiency symptoms, which include: a.. Burning sensation of the tongue b.. Numbness or tingling in the hands or feet c.. Insomnia d.. Loss of memory e.. Dizziness f.. Lack of balance g.. Depression h.. Digestive problems i.. Dizziness j.. Liver enlargement k.. Eye problems l.. Headaches m.. Mental Illness and Hallucinations n.. Inflamed tongue o.. Breathing difficulties p.. Loss of memory q.. Palpitations r.. Neurological damage s.. Worsening of autistic symptoms t.. Tinitus or ringing in the ears Vitamin b12 is commonly found in animal products like eggs, dairy, fish, meat and animal organs. B12 is rarely found in vegetables, which is why vegetarians and especially vegans who don't eat dairy products or meat, are especially at risk. If you fall into this category then you should consider using vitamin supplements containing b12. The problem is, only the injections and nasal sprays will be best absorbed. The gut does not absorb the vitamin B12 taken orally that well. Most sublingual preparations are not SCD compliant and contain illegal sugars and starches. It's also important to realize that the operation of vitamin b12 is dependent on sufficient quantities of other vitamins being present in your body so you should take care to get a balanced diet to avoid vitamin b12 deficiency symptoms. This is why a good B complex and a good multi-vitamin is needed. Just taking b12 alone is not a good idea. Remember: Elaine G recognized that this is a big concern with those of us who have a " Vicious cycle " . She tells us that we need to have blood serum levels that are at a " high normal " . Many doctors do not realize that even borderline deficiency can cause significant problems. They may see that it is in range at a " low normal " and think that this is adequate when it is simply not. I also suggest that one does not take their vitamins before having these tests. One could get a false negative, when in reality you are truly suffering from this. I know...my doctor originally missed me! I took my B's before the test. I had to advocate for myself telling her and insisting that she give me B12. I finally got my GI doctor to help me. This is when my mental health began to improve and that horrible burning in my mouth (especially at night) vanished. My energy improved too. I only had to do this therapy for 9 months. Now that my gut is healed I am not having the symptoms any more of B12 deficiency. So I know now that my good gut bugs are making adequate amounts now, and that I am able to utilize it. Hope this helps others! God Bless every ones healing journey! Antoinette and my family of Silly Yaks (SCD 2/06) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Antoinette, Thanks for this info. I actually had my two non autistic children tested, and will find out their results soon. I have asked our DAN doc to test my husband and myself. I am always tired...always have been like that since childhood even though I've never tested possitive for anemia. My husband is epileptic, and also has a lot of GI issues even though he claims he doesn't(gas, bloating, constepation,, ect.). The B12 issue has actually been discussed amongst my sister in law and I because we're wondering if any of our other family members have this deficiency...my brother, herself, or any of their kids. What I wanted to ask you is what kind of test(s) did they run on you to check for the B12 deficiency. Our DAN uses a urine test that is called a metabolic analysis from Genova Diagnostics. I'm guessing that's not what a typical physician would order though, and would like to be able to tell my sister in law what test(s) she could ask her doctor to run. I'm also going to pass this on to two friends. One has multiple sclorosis, and the other has thyroid issues. Thanks. Meleah Fw: B 12 defeciency Here is some helpful information about B12 deficiency. Borderline B12 deficiency can sometimes cause symptoms so dramatic that B12 deficiency may be rejected as a possible cause because it may be thought that such symptoms wouldn't be caused by a mere borderline deficiency. B12 deficiency sometimes goes undiagnosed until the symptoms become moderate to severe, although this is not necessarily the fault of the medical profession. The symptoms often come on so slowly that a B12-deficient individual may become accustomed to them and not complain until the symptoms become severe. An abnormally low level of vitamin B12<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Supp&childId=Vitamin_B12> (cobalamin) is a factor in many disorders. The absorption of dietary vitamin B12 occurs in the small intestine and requires a secretion from the stomach known as intrinsic factor. If intrinsic factor is deficient, absorption of vitamin B12 is severely diminished. Vitamin B12 deficiency impairs the body's ability to make blood, accelerates blood cell destruction, and damages the nervous system. The result is pernicious anemia (PA). In the classical definition, PA refers only to B12 deficiency anemia caused by a lack of intrinsic factor. True PA is probably an autoimmune disease. The immune system<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Immune\ _Function> destroys cells in the stomach that secrete intrinsic factor. Many people with PA have both chronic inflammation of the stomach lining, called atrophic gastritis, and antibodies that fight their intrinsic factor-secreting cells.1 The term pernicious anemia is sometimes used colloquially to refer to any anemia caused by vitamin B12 deficiency. Vitamin B12 deficiency can be due to malabsorption<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId\ =Malabsorption> of dietary B12 despite normal levels of intrinsic factor. For example, celiac disease<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Celia\ c_Disease> and Crohn's disease<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Crohn\ s> may cause B12 malabsorption, which can lead to anemia. Less common causes of B12 deficiency include gastrointestinal surgery, pancreatic disease<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Pancr\ eatic_Insufficiency>, intestinal parasites<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Par\ asites>, and certain drugs. Pregnancy<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Pre\ gnancy>, hyperthyroidism, and advanced stages of cancer<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Cancer\ _Diet> may increase the body's requirement for B12, sometimes leading to a deficiency state. Low stomach acid<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Concern&childId=Indigest\ ion>, known as hypochlorhydria, interferes with the absorption of B12 from food but not from supplements. Aging is associated with a decrease in the normal secretion of stomach acid. As a result, some older people with normal levels of intrinsic factor and with no clear cause for malabsorption will become vitamin B12-deficient unless they take at least a few micrograms per day of vitamin B12<http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=Supp&childId=Vitamin_B12> from supplements. Low stomach acid will resolve with the SCDiet. It is often caused by Candida overgrowth and gut disbiosis. A healthy typical body requires very little vitamin b12 or cobalamin and most of us get sufficient quantities of it in our normal meals to satisfy our daily requirements. Although it's rare to see vitamin b12 deficiency symptoms it can still be useful to be able to recognize them just in case. If you are a typical person and do not have intestinal disease you likely do not have this problem. It is rare. Many doctors will miss you! Normal folk are most vulnerable to vitamin b12 deficiency if you've vegan and don't use the available dietary supplements containing vitamin b12. Infants breast-feeding from vegan mothers can also be at risk. Vitamin b12 supplements are generally regarded as safe because there are few known adverse effects of overdose. The main symptom that arises from vitamin b12 deficiency is a type of anaemia that causes you to feel tired, weak and lethargic. You might also feel nauseous, constipated and become very flatulent (gas). You may also lose your appetite and suffer weight loss. More severe cases can give vitamin b12 deficiency symptoms, which include: a.. Burning sensation of the tongue b.. Numbness or tingling in the hands or feet c.. Insomnia d.. Loss of memory e.. Dizziness f.. Lack of balance g.. Depression h.. Digestive problems i.. Dizziness j.. Liver enlargement k.. Eye problems l.. Headaches m.. Mental Illness and Hallucinations n.. Inflamed tongue o.. Breathing difficulties p.. Loss of memory q.. Palpitations r.. Neurological damage s.. Worsening of autistic symptoms t.. Tinitus or ringing in the ears Vitamin b12 is commonly found in animal products like eggs, dairy, fish, meat and animal organs. B12 is rarely found in vegetables, which is why vegetarians and especially vegans who don't eat dairy products or meat, are especially at risk. If you fall into this category then you should consider using vitamin supplements containing b12. The problem is, only the injections and nasal sprays will be best absorbed. The gut does not absorb the vitamin B12 taken orally that well. Most sublingual preparations are not SCD compliant and contain illegal sugars and starches. It's also important to realize that the operation of vitamin b12 is dependent on sufficient quantities of other vitamins being present in your body so you should take care to get a balanced diet to avoid vitamin b12 deficiency symptoms. This is why a good B complex and a good multi-vitamin is needed. Just taking b12 alone is not a good idea. Remember: Elaine G recognized that this is a big concern with those of us who have a " Vicious cycle " . She tells us that we need to have blood serum levels that are at a " high normal " . Many doctors do not realize that even borderline deficiency can cause significant problems. They may see that it is in range at a " low normal " and think that this is adequate when it is simply not. I also suggest that one does not take their vitamins before having these tests. One could get a false negative, when in reality you are truly suffering from this. I know...my doctor originally missed me! I took my B's before the test. I had to advocate for myself telling her and insisting that she give me B12. I finally got my GI doctor to help me. This is when my mental health began to improve and that horrible burning in my mouth (especially at night) vanished. My energy improved too. I only had to do this therapy for 9 months. Now that my gut is healed I am not having the symptoms any more of B12 deficiency. So I know now that my good gut bugs are making adequate amounts now, and that I am able to utilize it. Hope this helps others! God Bless every ones healing journey! Antoinette and my family of Silly Yaks (SCD 2/06) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 My doctor ran a blood serum level. Again be sure not to take the B12 or B complex the day or days before this test. The levels will not be accurate. NONE of the B12 tests are that accurate. Some doctors go by symptoms and common sense alone. Many people have Candida and gut disbiosis and they do not even know it. Their B12 levels cold be normal. The two go hand in hand...but not always together. So many American's have CANDIDA and bad gut bugs becasue of the SADiet and over use of antibiotics. In the chapter The " Celaic Story " , Eliane explains that it is not just the gluten. That in the human body we just don't digest STARCH that well. So you compound this with antibiotic treatments that kill off the good gut flora that cuases fungus to grow out of control....and before you know it you could have intestinal disease and some of us are truly " asymptomatic " . More people than we can imagine have this condition to some degree or another. Chronic Fatigue is one of the biggest red flags. This unchecked " viscious cycle " no doubt contributes to our auto-immune conditions or seizure disorders. My husband was diagnosed as a " asymptomatic celiac " .....this surprised everyone, because I have CD too. " How could this be? " they asked... " being that Celiac is such a rare disease " . I wanted to know and Elaine explains how. God rest her soul! No doctor could explain it...other say that is was bad luck of the draw...no way! This would be too big of a coincidence considering that our children are both on the autism spectrum and have CD and gut disbiosis also. My husband has never been intestinaly " sick " , yet suffered from bouts of anxiety, insomnia, irritability and ADD..no classic CD symptoms...just symptoms that go hand in hand with gut disbiosis. His EGD and biopsy showed that his intestines where a wreck. The glten free diet did not work...go figure...he kept on feeding the yeasty beasties starch and sugar and could not heal. With SCD his symptoms have vanished. My autistic daughter's siezures are being controlled with SCD too. I am beginining to wonder if CANIDA runs in families. I know that it can be passed on from mother to new born...so why not a sex partner/husband or wife. One thing is for certaint this is much more than gluten! That is why I call us " Silly Yaks " . LOL God Bless your healing journey. Antoinette and my five Silly Yaks 2/07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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