Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I'm going crazy trying to figure out why my little boy's belly is so bloated. It always has been. He has or had C. Diff, but we think that is pretty much cleared up, the last month we suspected that he had yeast issues based solely on behavioral observances so he has been on Diflucan for 9 days. His behavior has been wonderful since we started the Diflucan, but his belly is just as bloated as it ever was. Do you see any suspicious items in his diet? I know some of these things can feed yeast, but he had a bloated belly even back when his tests showed that there wasn't any yeast at all. very ripe Bananas avocados cooked, peeled, seeded apples, pears, peaches cooked, peeled, seeded cucumbers, zucchini, green beans, peas, red pepper, acorn squash, cauliflower ground beef coconut oil filtered orange blossom honey occasional eggs occasional chicken occasional almond flour cookies made with above ingredients Since he hasn't ever NOT been bloated, I just don't know where to look. He has been SCD for 4 months. His bowels have been greenish since he started the diflucan, but good consistency and quite large and once a day. He is also taking several supplements: CLO Folinic Acid TMG B12 shots Magnesium Citrate B Complex Zinc Picolinate Vitamin K PhosChol VSL #3 Melatonin S. Boullardi Epsom Salt baths Are we going to have to do the intro again? He has improved SO MUCH on SCD so I know it is working, but this bloated belly is driving me nuts! I want to know how to fix it. Thank you for any thoughts!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I believe that VSL#3 and melatonin are both illegal. I would suggest you pull these. I don't know about the phos chol. You'd be surprised about him perhaps being able to sleep better now that he's on SCD. He really may not need the melatonin. You'd have to try that out to see. Meleah bloated belly I'm going crazy trying to figure out why my little boy's belly is so bloated. It always has been. He has or had C. Diff, but we think that is pretty much cleared up, the last month we suspected that he had yeast issues based solely on behavioral observances so he has been on Diflucan for 9 days. His behavior has been wonderful since we started the Diflucan, but his belly is just as bloated as it ever was. Do you see any suspicious items in his diet? I know some of these things can feed yeast, but he had a bloated belly even back when his tests showed that there wasn't any yeast at all. very ripe Bananas avocados cooked, peeled, seeded apples, pears, peaches cooked, peeled, seeded cucumbers, zucchini, green beans, peas, red pepper, acorn squash, cauliflower ground beef coconut oil filtered orange blossom honey occasional eggs occasional chicken occasional almond flour cookies made with above ingredients Since he hasn't ever NOT been bloated, I just don't know where to look. He has been SCD for 4 months. His bowels have been greenish since he started the diflucan, but good consistency and quite large and once a day. He is also taking several supplements: CLO Folinic Acid TMG B12 shots Magnesium Citrate B Complex Zinc Picolinate Vitamin K PhosChol VSL #3 Melatonin S. Boullardi Epsom Salt baths Are we going to have to do the intro again? He has improved SO MUCH on SCD so I know it is working, but this bloated belly is driving me nuts! I want to know how to fix it. Thank you for any thoughts!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 It depends on which type of melatonin. I know that the melatonin plus magnesium from Kirkman's is listed as legal, but their other versions are illegal. The VSL#3 is definitely illegal as it contains not only illegal probiotic strains but also illegal fillers depending on which flavor/type you use. K Hashi's, Fibro, CFS, etc etc (mostly healed!) Son Rhowan 5 yrs old: chronic diarrhea, adhd behaviors restarting SCD > > I believe that VSL#3 and melatonin are both illegal. I would suggest you pull these. I don't know about the phos chol. You'd be surprised about him perhaps being able to sleep better now that he's on SCD. He really may not need the melatonin. You'd have to try that out to see. > Meleah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Hi , <<I'm going crazy trying to figure out why my little boy's belly is so > bloated. It always has been. He has or had C. Diff, but we think > that is pretty much cleared up, the last month we suspected that he > had yeast issues based solely on behavioral observances so he has > been on Diflucan for 9 days. His behavior has been wonderful since > we started the Diflucan, but his belly is just as bloated as it ever > was. Do you see any suspicious items in his diet?>> Are you doing epsom salt baths and/or activated charcoal. These may help with the bloating. http://pecanbread.com/new/temporarysymptoms.html << very ripe Bananas > > avocados > > cooked, peeled, seeded apples, pears, peaches > > cooked, peeled, seeded cucumbers, zucchini, green beans, peas, red > pepper, acorn squash, cauliflower > > ground beef > > coconut oil > > filtered orange blossom honey > > occasional eggs > > occasional chicken > > occasional almond flour cookies made with above ingredients > > Since he hasn't ever NOT been bloated, I just don't know where to > look. He has been SCD for 4 months. His bowels have been greenish > since he started the diflucan, but good consistency and quite large > and once a day.>> << He is also taking several supplements: > CLO > Folinic Acid > TMG > B12 shots > Magnesium Citrate > B Complex > Zinc Picolinate > Vitamin K > PhosChol > VSL #3>> VSL#3 is SCD illegal because it contains bifidum bacteria. > Melatonin > S. Boullardi > Epsom Salt baths > > Are we going to have to do the intro again? He has improved SO MUCH > on SCD so I know it is working, but this bloated belly is driving me > nuts! I want to know how to fix it. If the bloat doesn't improve with activated charcoal/epsom salts you could redo the intro. Restarting the intro and then add food in this order (You can start with veggies and then fruit criss crosssing back and forth to acheive some balance and sufficient calories): One at a time if possible: Fruit: cooked, peeled, seeded apples, pears, peaches coconut oil very ripe Bananas avocados Veggie: cooked, peeled, seeded cucumbers, zucchini, green beans, acorn squash red pepper peas cauliflower (cautiously, since this is a memeber of the cabbage family) Meats NO particular order necessary, but boiled, broiled first then baked fried. Less fat and skin at the beginning - since they are harder to digest for a damaged gut. > ground beef > > occasional eggs > > occasional chicken Start with a little to see if there is a change: occasional almond flour cookies made with above ingredients With yeast honey may need to be reduced to avoid feeding the ittle critters: filtered orange blossom honey Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 By process of elimination, we have ruled out a food issue as the cause and now I am suspicious of the S. Boullardi. Has anyone had this cause bloating? He is taking it to fight bacterial issues, but we think that is nearly resolved and our DAN said to stop the S. Boullardi for a while and see if the bloating changes. His behavior has severely deterioated the past 3 days, to the point of regressing back to his behavior of 5 months ago. It's almost unbelievable how much he has regressed. His therapist was at a loss today to understand or explain the VERY significant changes since last Wednesday. I had removed all supplements except CLO, Vitamin K, and Mag Citrate. Around noon today I gave him VSL and PhosChol and by the time Dad got home, he was a different child. If I had not witnessed it, I would not have believed it. We have had ZERO eye contact for 3 days straight, etc, etc. This evening he was looking at us, playing with us, responding to his name, happy, etc, etc and his belly was significantly less bloated. I am curious if the bifidum that I do know is illegal on SCD, may actually be a good thing for younger children. My son is 2 1/2 by the way and breastfed until 22 months old at which point, now that I look back, he started losing his words and descending in his ASD world. Anyway, we'll see what tomorrow brings.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 mamanme2 wrote: I am curious if the bifidum that I do know is illegal on SCD, may actually be a good thing for younger children. Recent Activity 10 New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Hi , Did you stop the S. boulardii yet? Was he getting other probiotics (before you started the VSL?)? What supplements did you stop and when did you stop them? Sheila > By process of elimination, we have ruled out a food issue as the > cause and now I am suspicious of the S. Boullardi. Has anyone had > this cause bloating? He is taking it to fight bacterial issues, but > we think that is nearly resolved and our DAN said to stop the S. > Boullardi for a while and see if the bloating changes. > > His behavior has severely deterioated the past 3 days, to the point > of regressing back to his behavior of 5 months ago. It's almost > unbelievable how much he has regressed. His therapist was at a loss > today to understand or explain the VERY significant changes since > last Wednesday. > > I had removed all supplements except CLO, Vitamin K, and Mag > Citrate. Around noon today I gave him VSL and PhosChol and by the > time Dad got home, he was a different child. If I had not witnessed > it, I would not have believed it. We have had ZERO eye contact for > 3 days straight, etc, etc. This evening he was looking at us, > playing with us, responding to his name, happy, etc, etc and his > belly was significantly less bloated. I am curious if the bifidum > that I do know is illegal on SCD, may actually be a good thing for > younger children. My son is 2 1/2 by the way and breastfed until 22 > months old at which point, now that I look back, he started losing > his words and descending in his ASD world. > > Anyway, we'll see what tomorrow brings.... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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