Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Our DAN has prescribed a round of Diflucan for iel. We've been battling some big yeast issues for about two months now with lots of natural antifungals, Candex, and strict early stage SCD. We still can't shake it, so we're doing the Diflucan to get rid of it now. We're also going to take a chelation break to help. Anyway, does anyone know if I can give Diflucan when I give iel has probiotics and S. boulardi? Should I give it far away from that, or does it matter? Meleah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 hi meleah, we are on our 14th day of treatment right now. you do not give SB because it is a yeast and it is consumed by the diflucan... i did that and was told i was wasting my money! you can give your normal probiotic well away from the diflucan - i give probiotics as soon as audrey wakes and then i do the diflucan with olive leaf extract just before bed. have the sb and other natural antifungals on hand for when treatment is over as i have heard of it flaring up again... im in australia - do you mind me asking what the protocol is there in the usa with dan! for candida? what is your diflucan dose, the frequency and for what period of time? i just went to a conference here in sydney and a couple of doctors from dan! spoke and it would seem like they have a more aggressive approach which is really hard to find here in australia... i feel its what i need to get the candida to a level where i can manage it naturally so im just curious how they treat it over there. you can respond privately if you prefer? roweena x mumma to audrey - almost 4yrs scd july 2006 Diflucan Posted by: " robin " rmcorner@... Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:06 am (PST) Our DAN has prescribed a round of Diflucan for iel. We've been battling some big yeast issues for about two months now with lots of natural antifungals, Candex, and strict early stage SCD. We still can't shake it, so we're doing the Diflucan to get rid of it now. We're also going to take a chelation break to help. Anyway, does anyone know if I can give Diflucan when I give iel has probiotics and S. boulardi? Should I give it far away from that, or does it matter? Meleah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 The dose is dependent upon the child's size. iel is going to be taking 200mgs. for 10 days, and then 100mgs. for the second 10 days. Yes, I have the natural antifungals on hand for follow up work. I hope we can keep it at bay once we kill it off. I am interested to see what happens with him behaviorally once we get this started. He has good stools, no rashes or eczema, ect. So, I am wondering if the way we'll see improvements from getting rid of the yeast will be with things like eye contact, social interaction, language, behavior, ect. I'll keep you posted. Meleah Re:Diflucan hi meleah, we are on our 14th day of treatment right now. you do not give SB because it is a yeast and it is consumed by the diflucan... i did that and was told i was wasting my money! you can give your normal probiotic well away from the diflucan - i give probiotics as soon as audrey wakes and then i do the diflucan with olive leaf extract just before bed. have the sb and other natural antifungals on hand for when treatment is over as i have heard of it flaring up again... im in australia - do you mind me asking what the protocol is there in the usa with dan! for candida? what is your diflucan dose, the frequency and for what period of time? i just went to a conference here in sydney and a couple of doctors from dan! spoke and it would seem like they have a more aggressive approach which is really hard to find here in australia... i feel its what i need to get the candida to a level where i can manage it naturally so im just curious how they treat it over there. you can respond privately if you prefer? roweena x mumma to audrey - almost 4yrs scd july 2006 Diflucan Posted by: " robin " rmcorner@... Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:06 am (PST) Our DAN has prescribed a round of Diflucan for iel. We've been battling some big yeast issues for about two months now with lots of natural antifungals, Candex, and strict early stage SCD. We still can't shake it, so we're doing the Diflucan to get rid of it now. We're also going to take a chelation break to help. Anyway, does anyone know if I can give Diflucan when I give iel has probiotics and S. boulardi? Should I give it far away from that, or does it matter? Meleah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 hi again meleah, how old is nathaniel? audreys candida symptoms - a rashy mouth, bloated belly, silly drunk like behaviour and also red and hot bottom area. in the last 14 days we have not seen any terrible die off like reactions at all which i was a little disappointed about fearing that it might not be a strong enough dose... but we have seen so many positive changes in every aspect of her being this last week!!! she is generally soooo much happier, peaceful, calm and content. her speech has improved out of site along with her imagination and drawing / writing skills. i am pretty sure it is diflucan as the other supps we added were more like 3 or 4 weeks ago (gaba to calm her and then i upped the milk thistle + liver life to cope with the diflucan). i hope you see similar things for nathaniel! i wish we had done it in october of last year as my doctor recommended now that i see how positive the experience has been! on scd i am sure we have had some major gut healing as she tolerated a huge range of foods now with next to no behaviour issues... but her candida has got much worse of late flaring up whenever she has fruit and honey. im really not sure if a child that has a yeast issue can cope with the fruit component of the scd diet??? i guess only time will tell as we will do stool tests again the end of july to see how she has responded. roweena x Re: Diflucan Posted by: " robin " rmcorner@... Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:48 am (PST) The dose is dependent upon the child's size. iel is going to be taking 200mgs. for 10 days, and then 100mgs. for the second 10 days. Yes, I have the natural antifungals on hand for follow up work. I hope we can keep it at bay once we kill it off. I am interested to see what happens with him behaviorally once we get this started. He has good stools, no rashes or eczema, ect. So, I am wondering if the way we'll see improvements from getting rid of the yeast will be with things like eye contact, social interaction, language, behavior, ect. I'll keep you posted. Meleah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 iel turned four years old in May of this year. I hope we do see similar things with him. We always know when something works well for him because his progress is always in the same area...language bursts, social interaction/awareness bursts, ect. It has been that way with each item when it works well for him...DMPS, IV glutathion, B12, ect. It's funny because if we don't see those things in him, the labs also reflect that nothing has changed. When we do see those bursts, the labs also have improved greatly. On a different note, I would ask that all of pecan bread pray for us. We are very, very close to either losing our home, trying to sell it, or declaring bankrupcy. We are also in a serious enough position to be having to discontinue most and perhaps all of iel's biomedical intervention. Something drastic will have to change with my husband's employment situation or all of this will happen in the next couple of weeks. Honestly, I'm not so much concerned about the house and stuff. I just can't accept that iel will have to stop all biomedical and probalby even SCD. I can't bare to watch his go back to the child he was a year ago. Please, please pray for us. Meleah Re: Diflucan hi again meleah, how old is nathaniel? audreys candida symptoms - a rashy mouth, bloated belly, silly drunk like behaviour and also red and hot bottom area. in the last 14 days we have not seen any terrible die off like reactions at all which i was a little disappointed about fearing that it might not be a strong enough dose... but we have seen so many positive changes in every aspect of her being this last week!!! she is generally soooo much happier, peaceful, calm and content. her speech has improved out of site along with her imagination and drawing / writing skills. i am pretty sure it is diflucan as the other supps we added were more like 3 or 4 weeks ago (gaba to calm her and then i upped the milk thistle + liver life to cope with the diflucan). i hope you see similar things for nathaniel! i wish we had done it in october of last year as my doctor recommended now that i see how positive the experience has been! on scd i am sure we have had some major gut healing as she tolerated a huge range of foods now with next to no behaviour issues... but her candida has got much worse of late flaring up whenever she has fruit and honey. im really not sure if a child that has a yeast issue can cope with the fruit component of the scd diet??? i guess only time will tell as we will do stool tests again the end of july to see how she has responded. roweena x Re: Diflucan Posted by: " robin " rmcorner@... Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:48 am (PST) The dose is dependent upon the child's size. iel is going to be taking 200mgs. for 10 days, and then 100mgs. for the second 10 days. Yes, I have the natural antifungals on hand for follow up work. I hope we can keep it at bay once we kill it off. I am interested to see what happens with him behaviorally once we get this started. He has good stools, no rashes or eczema, ect. So, I am wondering if the way we'll see improvements from getting rid of the yeast will be with things like eye contact, social interaction, language, behavior, ect. I'll keep you posted. Meleah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Meleah, I sent you a private mail that you are in my prayers--but for some reason it didn't go through. Did you get any reduction in yeast for iel with the natural anti-fungals? Rhonda Re: Re: Diflucan | iel turned four years old in May of this year. I hope we do see similar things with him. We always know when something works well for him because his progress is always in the same area...language bursts, social interaction/awareness bursts, ect. It has been that way with each item when it works well for him...DMPS, IV glutathion, B12, ect. It's funny because if we don't see those things in him, the labs also reflect that nothing has changed. When we do see those bursts, the labs also have improved greatly. On a different note, I would ask that all of pecan bread pray for us. We are very, very close to either losing our home, trying to sell it, or declaring bankrupcy. We are also in a serious enough position to be having to discontinue most and perhaps all of iel's biomedical intervention. Something drastic will have to change with my husband's employment situation or all of this will happen in the next couple of weeks. Honestly, I'm not so much concerned about the house and stuff. I just can't accept that iel will have to stop all biomedical and probalby even SCD. I can't bare to watch his go back to the child he was a year ago. Please, please pray for us. | Meleah | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 I came down some, but it isn't gone. That's why we're doing a round of Diflucan even though I hate that we have to do it. My big hope is that with taking the chelation break and using the Diflucan, we will be able to kill off the yeast for good. I have a friend who did use prescription antifungals right at first, and now can keep the yeast at bay with her child by using the natural antifungals. Crossing my fingers that we'll see some big changes with iel in the next week or two. Thanks for the prayers. Meleah Re: Re: Diflucan > > > | iel turned four years old in May of this year. I > hope we do see similar things with him. We always know when > something works well for him because his progress is always > in the same area...language bursts, social > interaction/awareness bursts, ect. It has been that way > with each item when it works well for him...DMPS, IV > glutathion, B12, ect. It's funny because if we don't see > those things in him, the labs also reflect that nothing has > changed. When we do see those bursts, the labs also have > improved greatly. On a different note, I would ask that all > of pecan bread pray for us. We are very, very close to > either losing our home, trying to sell it, or declaring > bankrupcy. We are also in a serious enough position to be > having to discontinue most and perhaps all of iel's > biomedical intervention. Something drastic will have to > change with my husband's employment situation or all of this > will happen in the next couple of weeks. Honestly, I'm not > so much concerned about the house and stuff. I just can't > accept that iel will have to stop all biomedical and > probalby even SCD. I can't bare to watch his go back to the > child he was a year ago. Please, please pray for us. > | Meleah > | > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 hi meleah, im so sorry to hear you guys are in such a desperate state... its such a common situation for people with kids like ours because we will go to any length to heal our kids - unfortunately the cost of diet and biomed is soooo high but once youve seen what is possible with these interventions its hard to go back! we spend more money than we make every month (diggin into our house loan) and it will eventually run out but just hoping audrey is recovered by then! i really do understand and feel for you all - sending you positive thoughts from all the way in australia! roweena x > > iel turned four years old in May of this year. I hope we do see similar things with him. We always know when something works well for him because his progress is always in the same area...language bursts, social interaction/awareness bursts, ect. It has been that way with each item when it works well for him...DMPS, IV glutathion, B12, ect. It's funny because if we don't see those things in him, the labs also reflect that nothing has changed. When we do see those bursts, the labs also have improved greatly. On a different note, I would ask that all of pecan bread pray for us. We are very, very close to either losing our home, trying to sell it, or declaring bankrupcy. We are also in a serious enough position to be having to discontinue most and perhaps all of iel's biomedical intervention. Something drastic will have to change with my husband's employment situation or all of this will happen in the next couple of weeks. Honestly, I'm not so much concerned about the house and stuff. I just can't accept that iel will have to stop all biomedical and probalby even SCD. I can't bare to watch his go back to the child he was a year ago. Please, please pray for us. > Meleah > Re: Diflucan > > > hi again meleah, > > how old is nathaniel? > > audreys candida symptoms - a rashy mouth, bloated belly, silly drunk > like behaviour and also red and hot bottom area. in the last 14 days > we have not seen any terrible die off like reactions at all which i > was a little disappointed about fearing that it might not be a strong > enough dose... but we have seen so many positive changes in every > aspect of her being this last week!!! she is generally soooo much > happier, peaceful, calm and content. her speech has improved out of > site along with her imagination and drawing / writing skills. i am > pretty sure it is diflucan as the other supps we added were more like > 3 or 4 weeks ago (gaba to calm her and then i upped the milk thistle > + liver life to cope with the diflucan). i hope you see similar > things for nathaniel! > > i wish we had done it in october of last year as my doctor > recommended now that i see how positive the experience has been! on > scd i am sure we have had some major gut healing as she tolerated a > huge range of foods now with next to no behaviour issues... but her > candida has got much worse of late flaring up whenever she has fruit > and honey. im really not sure if a child that has a yeast issue can > cope with the fruit component of the scd diet??? i guess only time > will tell as we will do stool tests again the end of july to see how > she has responded. > > roweena x > > Re: Diflucan > Posted by: " robin " rmcorner@... > Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:48 am (PST) > > The dose is dependent upon the child's size. iel is going to be > taking 200mgs. for 10 days, and then 100mgs. for the second 10 days. > Yes, I have the natural antifungals on hand for follow up work. I > hope we can keep it at bay once we kill it off. I am interested to > see what happens with him behaviorally once we get this started. He > has good stools, no rashes or eczema, ect. So, I am wondering if the > way we'll see improvements from getting rid of the yeast will be with > things like eye contact, social interaction, language, behavior, ect. > I'll keep you posted. > Meleah > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Thank you so much. I have the same hope...That by the time we truly are out of options iel will be recovered. Meleah Re: Diflucan > > > hi again meleah, > > how old is nathaniel? > > audreys candida symptoms - a rashy mouth, bloated belly, silly drunk > like behaviour and also red and hot bottom area. in the last 14 days > we have not seen any terrible die off like reactions at all which i > was a little disappointed about fearing that it might not be a strong > enough dose... but we have seen so many positive changes in every > aspect of her being this last week!!! she is generally soooo much > happier, peaceful, calm and content. her speech has improved out of > site along with her imagination and drawing / writing skills. i am > pretty sure it is diflucan as the other supps we added were more like > 3 or 4 weeks ago (gaba to calm her and then i upped the milk thistle > + liver life to cope with the diflucan). i hope you see similar > things for nathaniel! > > i wish we had done it in october of last year as my doctor > recommended now that i see how positive the experience has been! on > scd i am sure we have had some major gut healing as she tolerated a > huge range of foods now with next to no behaviour issues... but her > candida has got much worse of late flaring up whenever she has fruit > and honey. im really not sure if a child that has a yeast issue can > cope with the fruit component of the scd diet??? i guess only time > will tell as we will do stool tests again the end of july to see how > she has responded. > > roweena x > > Re: Diflucan > Posted by: " robin " rmcorner@... > Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:48 am (PST) > > The dose is dependent upon the child's size. iel is going to be > taking 200mgs. for 10 days, and then 100mgs. for the second 10 days. > Yes, I have the natural antifungals on hand for follow up work. I > hope we can keep it at bay once we kill it off. I am interested to > see what happens with him behaviorally once we get this started. He > has good stools, no rashes or eczema, ect. So, I am wondering if the > way we'll see improvements from getting rid of the yeast will be with > things like eye contact, social interaction, language, behavior, ect. > I'll keep you posted. > Meleah > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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