Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Well we have been on the scd diet for three weeks now and have continued to see the worst diapers that we have ever seen. Prior to SCD, we had 1-2 stools daily with a mashed potato consistency (light colored kind of yeasty looking) but now they are really brown and runny and look sandy (maybe due to all the nut flours) and often run down his legs...sometimes 1-3 a day. Our current diet consists of: fruits (a lot as he doesn't like many of the prepared foods on this diet) some digestive wellness cookies carrots banana nut muffins chicken nuggets and thats about it, he refuses about everything else, we have tried countless other items as well but he won't eat them we had a great plains lab comprehensive stool test showing a strep imbalance and a staph aureus dysbiotic problem...they gave some natural agents and prescriptive agents to try and we purchased some caprylic acid in capsules that I plan to mix in his applesauce...anyone have any background with this stuff and if we should treat and how? I have two good friends who have had success in about a week on this diet but this has not been our experience. Should we start giving enzymes with every meal?? Probiotics? and if so what kind? I don't want to introduce yogurt yet as we have been gfcf for awhile. My husband and I are so discouraged by all our experimenting with recipes and coaxing food into him only to have a worsened situation. Any help is so much appreciated. p.s. the only time we have ever had formed stools was about a year or so ago...we were gfcf and after daily rounds of nizoral for a couple of weeks, enzymes with all meals and probiotics, we had formed stools. but it only lasted as long as we were on the nizoral, but I became afraid to keep him on the product because of potential liver problems that I had read about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Are you pealing, seeding, and cooking all of the fruit? Too much fruit can make the stools runny also. What ingredients are in your chicken nuggets? How long ago did you introduce nut flour? I would definitely pull that out. Yes, you need to get some probiotics in him if you haven't been giving him yogurt or probiotics. You're giving the yeast and bacteria opportunity to just overgrow again by not replacing what dies off with good bacteria in his gut. You really need to get more veggies in him. Meleah Discouraged and need hope Well we have been on the scd diet for three weeks now and have continued to see the worst diapers that we have ever seen. Prior to SCD, we had 1-2 stools daily with a mashed potato consistency (light colored kind of yeasty looking) but now they are really brown and runny and look sandy (maybe due to all the nut flours) and often run down his legs...sometimes 1-3 a day. Our current diet consists of: fruits (a lot as he doesn't like many of the prepared foods on this diet) some digestive wellness cookies carrots banana nut muffins chicken nuggets and thats about it, he refuses about everything else, we have tried countless other items as well but he won't eat them we had a great plains lab comprehensive stool test showing a strep imbalance and a staph aureus dysbiotic problem...they gave some natural agents and prescriptive agents to try and we purchased some caprylic acid in capsules that I plan to mix in his applesauce...anyone have any background with this stuff and if we should treat and how? I have two good friends who have had success in about a week on this diet but this has not been our experience. Should we start giving enzymes with every meal?? Probiotics? and if so what kind? I don't want to introduce yogurt yet as we have been gfcf for awhile. My husband and I are so discouraged by all our experimenting with recipes and coaxing food into him only to have a worsened situation. Any help is so much appreciated. p.s. the only time we have ever had formed stools was about a year or so ago...we were gfcf and after daily rounds of nizoral for a couple of weeks, enzymes with all meals and probiotics, we had formed stools. but it only lasted as long as we were on the nizoral, but I became afraid to keep him on the product because of potential liver problems that I had read about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 , My boys started off the same way on this diet. All one of them would eat would be pureed food. Every thing had to be sweetened with fruit and honey. Well, the first thing I took out were the carrots. They just were not digesting properly. I replaced carrots with butternut squash fries and mashed cooked butternut squash with minced chicken or ground buffalo or ground beef. I saw improvements. With my one boys who would only eat stuff that was pureed and sweetened with fruit and honey, I had to pull ALL honey and ALL fruit for a couple of days and redo the starter diet. He went on a hunger strike that lasted a couple of days. But when he got hungry he started to eat. Here is what I use in the starter diet: cooked whole chicken in water. Reserve the cooked water (broth) and chill and later use to mix four ounces of broth with about 3 ounces of legal juice. Good way to get minerals and protein. I pull the chicken off the bone, mince it in a food processor and mix with cooked mashed butternut sqaush and form nuggets. Cook at 350 degrees for 30 minutes. This makes chicken nuggets that my boys love. Also make meatballs the same way. That way they get protein from meat and nutrition from veggies. Also make jello cubes with knox gelatine and legal juice mixed half and half with water. I also did not use any nut flours for a long time. Now we still only use a few times per week. It is not easy but if you let him just go on a hunger strike, he will eat when he is hungry and will eat the nutritious foods that are easier to digest. Hope this helps. Dana and Garrett, 3 years old as of Mar 24 SCD One Year!!!!! Celiac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Dear , before you do anythiing else, please do this: go online to www.danwebcast.com and register. The DAN webcast page will send an alpha-numeric code to your email, and then you can access all of the videos they have there, for free. After you have your access code, go to the Washington DAN! conference, and find the video about SCD from Judy Gorman called DAN! = Diets are Non-Negotiable. Watch the entire video, right to the end. I think you will find this video inspiring, reasuring, and that it will answer your questions very clearly. After you watch it, please let me know what you think. Your friend, Kathy wrote: Well we have been on the scd diet for three weeks now and have continued to see the worst diapers that we have ever seen. Prior to SCD, we had 1-2 stools daily with a mashed potato consistency (light colored kind of yeasty looking) but now they are really brown and runny and look sandy (maybe due to all the nut flours) and often run down his legs...sometimes 1-3 a day. Our current diet consists of: fruits (a lot as he doesn't like many of the prepared foods on this diet) some digestive wellness cookies carrots banana nut muffins chicken nuggets and thats about it, he refuses about everything else, we have tried countless other items as well but he won't eat them we had a great plains lab comprehensive stool test showing a strep imbalance and a staph aureus dysbiotic problem...they gave some natural agents and prescriptive agents to try and we purchased some caprylic acid in capsules that I plan to mix in his applesauce...anyone have any background with this stuff and if we should treat and how? I have two good friends who have had success in about a week on this diet but this has not been our experience. Should we start giving enzymes with every meal?? Probiotics? and if so what kind? I don't want to introduce yogurt yet as we have been gfcf for awhile. My husband and I are so discouraged by all our experimenting with recipes and coaxing food into him only to have a worsened situation. Any help is so much appreciated. p.s. the only time we have ever had formed stools was about a year or so ago...we were gfcf and after daily rounds of nizoral for a couple of weeks, enzymes with all meals and probiotics, we had formed stools. but it only lasted as long as we were on the nizoral, but I became afraid to keep him on the product because of potential liver problems that I had read about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Is there illegal food in the house? My son stopped refusing what was put in front of him only when there was nothing else in the house. Suddenly SCD looked appealing to him. I would clear out the house and start over with maybe 1 fruit/day, a different veggie, and none of the baked foods. What really helped my hunger striker was to do a 5-day rotation of his foods to keep it " exciting. " He is no longer stuck on a food until he gets sick of it. We do a turkey day, beef/buffalo day, seafood day, pork day, egg/cheese day. I also rotate the carbs on a 5-day rotation. Don't feel guilty about starving him a bit -- it's not cruel if the outcome is having a child who enjoys a wider variety of foods. That's what happened with my child. For completey new foods (a salmon burger for instance), I expected him to turn it down, but I still served it and then cut it up into sticks, put it in a cup and went somewhere in the car. He would often eat it in his carseat, even though he wouldn't touch it at the table. - wrote: Well we have been on the scd diet for three weeks now and have continued to see the worst diapers that we have ever seen. Prior to SCD, we had 1-2 stools daily with a mashed potato consistency (light colored kind of yeasty looking) but now they are really brown and runny and look sandy (maybe due to all the nut flours) and often run down his legs...sometimes 1-3 a day. Our current diet consists of: fruits (a lot as he doesn't like many of the prepared foods on this diet) some digestive wellness cookies carrots banana nut muffins chicken nuggets and thats about it, he refuses about everything else, we have tried countless other items as well but he won't eat them we had a great plains lab comprehensive stool test showing a strep imbalance and a staph aureus dysbiotic problem...they gave some natural agents and prescriptive agents to try and we purchased some caprylic acid in capsules that I plan to mix in his applesauce...anyone have any background with this stuff and if we should treat and how? I have two good friends who have had success in about a week on this diet but this has not been our experience. Should we start giving enzymes with every meal?? Probiotics? and if so what kind? I don't want to introduce yogurt yet as we have been gfcf for awhile. My husband and I are so discouraged by all our experimenting with recipes and coaxing food into him only to have a worsened situation. Any help is so much appreciated. p.s. the only time we have ever had formed stools was about a year or so ago...we were gfcf and after daily rounds of nizoral for a couple of weeks, enzymes with all meals and probiotics, we had formed stools. but it only lasted as long as we were on the nizoral, but I became afraid to keep him on the product because of potential liver problems that I had read about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Just from looking at what he's been eating and how my son did, I would say you are feeding him too much fruit and nut flour. I would cut out most of the fruit and nut products for a couple of days and see how he does. Push vegetables and also try to hide some veggies in the chicken nuggets. My son was SO incredibly intolerant of different foods and textures at first, but when I held firm and did not allow his favorites, he improved. >>Well we have been on the scd diet for three weeks now and have continued to see the worst diapers that we have ever seen. Prior to SCD, we had 1-2 stools daily with a mashed potato consistency (light colored kind of yeasty looking) but now they are really brown and runny and look sandy (maybe due to all the nut flours) and often run down his legs...sometimes 1-3 a day. Our current diet consists of: fruits (a lot as he doesn't like many of the prepared foods on this diet) some digestive wellness cookies carrots banana nut muffins chicken nuggets>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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