Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Hello all, I just wanted to add a short version of my story regarding elevated pancreas enzymes and pancreatitis. My first 'documented' attack of acute pancreatitis was in Jan 2000, about 18 months after my gallbladder was removed. The gallbladder needed to go as it had stones, sludge, and was only functioning at 13% of normal according to the HIDA scan. I assumed that the pain I had under my right rib for at least 5 years prior to having my gallbladder removed was simply from my gallbladder. I'd had at least 2 previous ultrasounds and HIDA scans over the years prior to having my gallbladder removed. The tests failed to show anything going on with my gallbladder until May 98. Though the pain was bad enough to stop me in my tracks about 3-4 times a year, it never lasted long enough to warrant an ER visit. When I had more of the horrible pain under my right rib after my gallbladder was removed I figured it must just be bad gas pain or something like that. Again, the severe pain never lasted long enough to warrant an ER visit, that is until Jan 8, 2000. That time the pain hit and didn't stop and I began puking within a minute or so. My amylase was elevated, thus the diagnosis of acute pancreatitis. I had numerous attacks during 2000 and was hospitalized several times. However, my amylase (nor lipase the time or two that it was checked) were elevated during any other than the first attack in 2000. From that point on I pretty much always had at least a small amount of pain under my right rib which varied in intensity from a mere nagging sort of pain to the worst pain imaginable. In 2000, I had 3 ERCPs, 2 with sphincterotomies because there was 'sludge' in the common bile duct. I was supposed to be cured but that obviously wasn't the case. Things did get much better by Feb 01 and my GI insisted my panc was fine, attacks were a fluke, would never happen again. I even had an endoscopy and MRCP in Apr 02 because I had begun having the 'stop you in your tracks' attacks of pain under my right rib. They lasted about 20-40 minutes and were horrible but still not long lasting enough to send me to the ER. The MRCP and endoscopy were fine and though the GI had no explanations for the pain, he was sure it could not possibly be the pancreas. In Jul 02, while in VA on a business trip, I had another attack of acute pancreatitis, complete with elevated amylase, lipase, and liver enzymes. I spent 4 days in the hospital, flew home, then landed in my local hospital just a few days later with amylase and liver enzymes more than twice as high as in VA. Don't know what my lipase was because at that time my small local hospital could not check the lipase in house so they didn't ever bother checking it. I had a few more attacks after that with an elevated amylase but most of the time my amylase was totally normal. My liver enzymes were typically significantly elevated but occasionally they were normal or near normal. After many months of elevated liver enzymes my GI did a liver biopsy and found that I have autoimmune hepatitis (AIH). He then insisted that all my pain, nausea, elevated liver enzymes, and even the elevated panc enzymes were from the liver disease. The liver disease stabilized quickly with medication (prednisone and imuran to supress my immune system) but I still kept having the same pain under my right rib. The doctors all insisted it could not possibly be my pancreas since my amylase was normal. Even though my AIH was under control with the medication, my liver enzymes would shoot up every time I had an episode of the horrible pain. After almost a year of attacks and over 20 hospitalizations and too many ER visits to count, I looked over my labs and wondered if maybe my lipase was elevating along with my liver enzymes when I had the flare ups of severe pain, often with nausea and vomiting. I decided with the next attack I would go to the next town, which has larger hospitals and they could check the lipase in house. I only had to wait a few hours after making that decision as that very night I had a major attack. The hour long drive was tough but well worth it. My amylase was dead center normal (it is almost always about 42-52) but my lipase and liver enzymes were very elevated. This was May 2003. I spent a total of 12 days in the hospital with 36 hours home sooner than my internal med doc wanted to release me because I begged him to let me out of the hospital. Just 36 hours after he let me go I was back with my lipase and liver enzymes about twice as high as they had been when he admitted me the first time. This time he called in my current GI/hepatologist who diagnosed me with chronic pancreatitis in addition to the AIH. Since then (Jun 03), I've had too many attacks to count. For a while, my lipase elevated with almost every attack. However, after a few months, even my lipase didn't elevate with most attacks. I'd say that my lipase probably elevates with about 1 out of 10 attacks now. Since Nov 02, my amylase has only elevated once and that was this May. My liver enzymes still elevate with about 25% or so of my attacks. The doctors who don't believe the pancreas can possibly be the problem if the panc enzymes aren't elevated try to insist that my liver enzymes are only elevated because of the AIH. However, my AIH is very well under control with just Imuran currently. My liver enzymes spike during a panc flare and then when I have nothing by mouth for 24 hours or so they begin to return to normal. As my pain improves, my liver enzymes return to normal, but if I push the diet too soon, my liver enzymes will often spike back up. Thankfully my wonderful GI totally understands and has explained to me that when you have chronic pancreatitis you can have episodes of very severe pain with totally normal panc enzymes because the nerves surrounding the panc have been damaged and also because the panc no longer has enough function to produce elevated panc enzymes. Oh, in addition to the ALT and AST liver enzymes, my alkaline phosphatate is very often elevated during an attack. Again, some doctors try to blame this on my AIH, but AIH typically does not cause the alk phos to elevate and my alk phos has NEVER been elevated at times I've it checked when I'm not having a flare of the pain under my right rib. I have some level of abdominal pain at all times and I take medication daily for it. Most days my pain med at home (prescribed by my pain mgmt doc) controls the pain well. However, when the pain gets to a level 8 or above, the oral meds are worthless, not to mention the fact that I am often puking at that point. I have quit arguing with ER doctors about whether my pain can be caused by the pancreas at times when my panc enzymes are normal. I really don't care what they think. Both my GI and my pcp are on the same sheet of music. They don't base my care on what the labs do or do not show, with the exception of the fact that if my lipase is even slightly elevated, I'm not allowed anything by mouth until it is back down to normal. Of course, that's really not a problem because during a flare the last thing I want is anything by mouth. Well,I said this would be short, but those who know me probably laughed when they read this. Anyway, this is my story and I'm sticking to it. The thing is that the attacks that have been the worst, as far as pain level and puking, have not been the ones where the labs looked the worst. Try to tell this to an ER doctor! I told my pcp recently that if I could check my labs at home I would do so. At least then I'd know whether the ER doctors were going to believe my pain was real! Oh, I forgot to mention that we don't really know for sure what caused my cp. Most of my doctors think it is at least partially autoimmune in nature because I have so many autoimmune diseases - AIH, lupus, IgG deficiency, antiphospholipid syndrome (an autoimmune clotting disorder). W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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