Diet ?

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If anyone knows the proper diet for CP would you please email me?

Thanks

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Basically a proper diet for CP is no alcohol, no fried foods and low fat items.

Some people can not eat red meat nor tolerate dairy. Some people can. Fat grams

should be limited to under 25-30 grams per day. It is also advised that you

" graze " the whole day through rather than eat a large meal. 6 small meals is

advisable.

Some of us can get away with " indulging " a little on their diet but we know we

will be paying for it with pain at some point. I believe that you need to start

keeping a food diary so you know what bothers you and what doesn't. Some people

just can not tolerate much of anything at all in the way of food. I feel so very

bad for them. I am not at that point yet. I have found out what I can eat and

what I DEFIANTLY should stay away from. When eating out, I can order grilled

chicken...grilled dry...or even order from fast food a grilled chicken

sandwich...again dry. Then I add ketchup to it. I am a french fry nut but have

learned to throw most all of them away except about 7-10 and that way I can

still have them but not have such a hard time with it. I eat reduced fat ice

cream when the urge strikes and I drink fat free milk. All dairy is either

reduced fat or fat free. Don't be afraid to ask for items made with no oil at

restaurants. They will be most happy to accommodate you if you ask nicely. I

also stay away from eggs and use egg substitute and instead of oil when baking,

I use applesauce. That way my family stills gets low fat muffins, brownies or

even a cake now and again.

I have learned to bake foods that taste fried rather than frying. On occasion I

will get my family fried foods, but for the most part, they eat as I do

because...truly...it is the way a body should eat in the first place. As far a

soda goes, again some people can handle it and some can't. I drink C2 or Coke

2. It's a lower sugar content soda. I do not like diet drinks. I do find that

VERY COLD drinks help when I am having pain. Sugar bothers some people but not

others. I am also one of those people that have CP and SOD and a under active

thyroid problem and am still overweight despite diet and exercise. I have spoke

with others on this board in that same boat with me as far as weight issue is

concerned. I have had it said to me, by family no less, " if you're so sick how

come you're not really skinny? " Can't answer that one. It's just the roll of

the dice I suppose with CP.

I think you get the point of a food diary by now. Hopefully you will be able to

tolerate more food than you think. And yes, at special occasions I will have a

bite or 2 of cake but I limit it to that. Much more than that and I know I am in

trouble. I also have found out with me that when I get that VERY FIRST inkling

that I may be getting full while eating, I need to stop right then and there. If

I continue because I think I am still hungry or it just tastes good and I feel

alright at the moment, I know there will be trouble for me down the road.

One last thing. Again this is a personal thing. Some people's pancreas' are so

sensitive that they will react to the alcohol in mouthwash. I don't but you may

want to watch that. DO NOT use Vanilla straight from the container. Make sure it

is cooked first. And yes, some people react to the wine flavoring in foods that

have been cooked with it even though the alcohol content has been cooked away.

This is alot of trial and error.

Avoid OTC meds that contain alcohol as well.

I know others will write to speak of more of which I haven't. Find out what

bothers you and then stay away from it. You can live a good full life with CP!

:-)

Sandy in Ca

Diet ?

If anyone knows the proper diet for CP would you please email me?

Thanks

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A Sharing and Education Group

for People with Pancreatitis

Pancreatitis and Your Diet

Your diet dsould contain 30g fat per day. Your doctor may advise you to

take MCT oil (to prevent fat malabsorption).

Here are some tips on how to read food labels and count fat grams:

a.. Look at the total number of fat grams on the nutrition label to

determine how much fat you will be eating.

b.. Be careful: Don't forget to look at the portion size per serving.

The number of fat grams listed on the label, might only be for a very small

amount of food.

c.. Learn the different food label claims. Read the FDA Specifications

for Health Claims and Descriptive Terms below.

d.. Use low-fat or fat free products, and count the total fat grams that

you eat. Low-fat and fat free products will help you achieve a 30g fat diet. On

a 30g fat diet, you should consume no more than 4oz of lean meat per day. (4oz

of lean has 12 g of fat. This would leave 18g of fat from other foods like

breads, grains etc) (30g-12g =18g)

e.. Don't forget! The regular foods you eat (grains, breads, meat) in

your diet will add up to 30g of fat easily. For example, 1 slice of bread has

about 1-2g fat. So, you probably will not have any room for the pure fat

exchanges listed below.

Common Myths

a.. You don't need fat in your diet

b.. Fat free foods are low in calories

c.. Vitamins give you energy

d.. You need extra vitamins during emotional stress

5 Grams Fat Exchanges (one serving)

1 tsp oil 1 Tbsp red-fat mayonaise

1 Tbsp regular salad dressing 2 Tbsp chitterlings, boiled

2 Tbsp red-fat salad dressing 2 Tbsp coconut, sweetened, shredded

1 tsp margarine: stick, tub, sqeeze 1 Tbsp cream cheese: regular

Butter:

1 tsp stick

1 tsp whipped

2 tsp red-fat 2 Tbsp cream cheese: reduced fat

1 tsp shortening or lard

2 Tbsp sour cream: regular

3 Tbsp reduced fat sour cream

1 tsp mayonaise Olives: 8 large black

10 green stuffed

1 Tbsp red-fat mayonaise

1 Tbsp regular salad dressing 2 tsp peanut butter, smooth or crunchy

2 Tbsp red-fat salad dressing 1 Tbsp seseame seeds

Nuts:

6 almonds 10 peanuts

4 pecan halves 6 mixed nuts 1 Tbsp pumpkin or sunflower

seeds

FDA Specifications for Health

Claims and Descriptive Terms

The FDA also provides guidelines about the claims and descriptions

manufacturers may use to promote their products:

Claim Requirements that must be met before using the claim

Fat-Free Less than 0.5 grams of fat per serving, with no added fat

or oil

Low fat 3 grams or less of fat per serving

Less fat 25% or less fat than the comparison food

Saturated Fat Free Less than 0.5 grams of saturated fat and 0.5

grams of trans-fatty acids per serving

Cholesterol-Free Less than 2 mg cholesterol per serving, and 2 grams

or less saturated fat per serving

Low Cholesterol 20 mg or less cholesterol per serving and 2 grams or

less saturated fat per serving

Reduced Calorie At least 25% fewer calories per serving than the

comparison food

Low Calorie 40 calories or less per serving

Extra Lean Less than 5 grams of fat, 2 grams of saturated fat, and

95 mg of cholesterol per (100 gram) serving of meat, poultry or seafood

Lean Less than 10 grams of fat, 4.5 g of saturated fat, and 95 mg of

cholesterol per (100 gram) serving of meat, poultry or seafood

Light (fat) 50% or less of the fat than in the comparison food (ex:

50% less fat than our regular cheese)

Light (calories) 1/3 fewer calories than the comparison food

High-Fiber 5 grams or more fiber per serving

Sugar-Free Less than 0.5 grams of sugar per serving

Sodium-Free or Salt-Free Less than 5 mg of sodium per serving

Low Sodium 140 mg or less per serving

Very Low Sodium 35 mg or less per serving

Healthy A food low in fat, saturated fat, cholesterol and sodium,

and contains at least 10% of the Daily Values for vitamin A, vitamin C, iron,

calcium, protein or fiber.

" High, " " Rich in " or " Excellent Source " 20% or more of the Daily

Value for a given nutrient per serving

" Less, " " Fewer " or

" Reduced " At least 25% less of a given nutrient or calories than the

comparison food

" Low, " " Little, " " Few, " or " Low Source of " An amount that would

allow frequent consumption of the food without exceeding the Daily Value for the

nutrient - but can only make the claim as it applies to all similar foods

" Good Source Of, " " More, " or " Added " The food provides 10% more of

the Daily Value for a given nutrient than the comparison food

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There is a bunch more info at the top5plus5 website. I hope this finds you

and yours well......Mark

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Hi ,

While your question is a good one, I don't know the answer. But, I think

there are at least two things that if ingested, they really never make it to the

GI tract. One is alcohol, it gets absorbed through the soft tissues of the

palet, espigophus (sp) and stomach. The other is honey, same thing in that it is

metabolized and hits the liver and blood stream in seconds after being eaten.

Why alcohol is so bad on the Panc. is a good question. Of course alcohol

goes into the blood as alcohol and stays as alcohol and then slowly gets

metabolized into some kind of sugar by the liver. The metabolic rate varies by

the

individual but can be estimated at about one ounce per hour.

Best wishes, Poncho - GA

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Does anyone know what it is about the metabolism of alcohol that upsets the

pancreas so much? I'm not looking for an excuse to go back to my glass of wine

w/ dinner, but I'm just curious about the physiology behind it all.

Thanks,

Falsone

polis, MD, where I've been feeling really great until this morning, when it

felt like someone took the area behind my sternum and squeezed it with a vice.

This was before I had anything to eat or drink. It's bothered me all day, but

weirdly enough, is fine now...after I ate some grilled vegetables (used Pam

instead of olive oil) and rice for dinner.

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Are you saying that honey is not good for the pancreas like alcohol? I have a

friend who works for a honey farm and she is always pushing honey on me to make

my pancreas better, but in all honesty, straight honey makes my pancreas hurt

almost immeadiatly. Does that happen to anyone else or is this just my

imagination?

Sandy in Ca

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.. The other is honey, same thing in that it is

metabolized and hits the liver and blood stream in seconds after being eaten.

[Guest guest]

Sandy, I would think maybe it is because of the sugar content and how

difficult it is for the pancreas to breakdown concentrated sugars. DEb

[Guest guest]

Sandy, In regard to honey, I used to have it every morning. One day my doc said

honey was the main reason for my reoccurring kidney stones. Wether it was or was

not, I stopped the homey and the kidney stones stopped as well. It has never

hurt my pancreas...I say that but I have Botox, I don't feel my pancreas most of

the time...I am also a diabetic but I seemed to process the honey ok. In fact it

was the one sugar I could actuaaly have and be fine with. Hope this helps,

Kathleen

TazLady21@... wrote:

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.. The other is honey, same thing in that it is

metabolized and hits the liver and blood stream in seconds after being eaten.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy,

I didn't mean to imply that honey is bad for Panc. I have heard that

diabetics need to be careful of honey as it gets to the bloos stream so fast and

so

completely. I'm sorry that you have a problem with honey. I think that in small

amounts I don't have any problem with it.

Best wishes, Poncho - GA

[Guest guest]

Thanks Poncho, maybe I'll try and research it on the web. It has me intrigued.

, in polis, where at least the weird pain I had yesterday is gone...

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