About to redo the intro diet and have questions.....

[Guest guest]

We recently went back to SCD and have been on it about 1 month. We

don't do any dairy besides SCD yogurt and cultured and/or raw butter,

no nuts, no honey, extremely little fruit. We have kind of been going

backwards, cutting out foods and working our way towards the intro

diet. Basically right now my son can eat SCD yogurt, meat/fish, fats,

eggs, winter squash, zucchini, green beans, cooked onions and that is

about it. He can't tolerate many carbs at all, and I don't think he

tolerates carrots well either. Until starting the SCD yogurt and

upping the amount of digestive enzymes he takes (Zyme Prime) he

suffered from constant diarrhea and very loose stools. We are now at

about 50-80% firm with the stools and his behavior is slowly

improving. I am hopeful that doing the intro will really help him keep

progressing.

Is it okay to do the intro diet using winter squash instead of

carrots? Also since we are already doing SCD yogurt successfully can

we keep that and cultured butter in the intro diet? The butter seems

very important to him (keeping the amount of fats he eats up helps

compensate for the fact that he can't tolerate many carbs). In fact,

the raw butter we get from a nearby farm seems to be magic for him. We

saw another big jump in improvement once we added that in.

Also, are white and purple grape juice the only allowed juices on the

intro? What do those of you with severe salicylate intolerance do? The

jello has been very useful to us since the kids need a quick snack and

can't eat fresh fruit anymore, but we have been using pomengranet

which seems to be the only juice I can find so far that doesn't make

them bonkers. Is it okay to keep doing the pomengranet juice on the

intro or should we try white grape?

Thanks in advance for your help. I am so glad that this group is here.

I look forward to the day when I can be the one giving out advice. :-)

K

Hashi's, Fibro, CFS, copper overload, adrenal fatigue etc etc (mostly

healed!!!)

kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, ADHD,

salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues,

salicylate intolerance

SCD take two 1 month (about to redo the intro diet)

[Guest guest]

You can use winter squash instead of carrots. Apple cider is also allowed on

the intro diet, but I think that is high in silicilates, too. I don't see why

you could continue to just use the pommegrant juice instead of the grape, but

Sheila would better be able to advise on that one. What state do you live in?

I've been trying to find raw butter forever, and haven't found it yet.

Meleah

About to redo the intro diet and have questions.....

We recently went back to SCD and have been on it about 1 month. We

don't do any dairy besides SCD yogurt and cultured and/or raw butter,

no nuts, no honey, extremely little fruit. We have kind of been going

backwards, cutting out foods and working our way towards the intro

diet. Basically right now my son can eat SCD yogurt, meat/fish, fats,

eggs, winter squash, zucchini, green beans, cooked onions and that is

about it. He can't tolerate many carbs at all, and I don't think he

tolerates carrots well either. Until starting the SCD yogurt and

upping the amount of digestive enzymes he takes (Zyme Prime) he

suffered from constant diarrhea and very loose stools. We are now at

about 50-80% firm with the stools and his behavior is slowly

improving. I am hopeful that doing the intro will really help him keep

progressing.

Is it okay to do the intro diet using winter squash instead of

carrots? Also since we are already doing SCD yogurt successfully can

we keep that and cultured butter in the intro diet? The butter seems

very important to him (keeping the amount of fats he eats up helps

compensate for the fact that he can't tolerate many carbs). In fact,

the raw butter we get from a nearby farm seems to be magic for him. We

saw another big jump in improvement once we added that in.

Also, are white and purple grape juice the only allowed juices on the

intro? What do those of you with severe salicylate intolerance do? The

jello has been very useful to us since the kids need a quick snack and

can't eat fresh fruit anymore, but we have been using pomengranet

which seems to be the only juice I can find so far that doesn't make

them bonkers. Is it okay to keep doing the pomengranet juice on the

intro or should we try white grape?

Thanks in advance for your help. I am so glad that this group is here.

I look forward to the day when I can be the one giving out advice. :-)

K

Hashi's, Fibro, CFS, copper overload, adrenal fatigue etc etc (mostly

healed!!!)

kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, ADHD,

salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues,

salicylate intolerance

SCD take two 1 month (about to redo the intro diet)

[Guest guest]

Hi

<< We recently went back to SCD and have been on it about 1 month. We

> don't do any dairy besides SCD yogurt and cultured and/or raw

butter,

> no nuts, no honey, extremely little fruit. We have kind of been

going

> backwards, cutting out foods and working our way towards the intro

> diet. Basically right now my son can eat SCD yogurt, meat/fish,

fats,

> eggs, winter squash, zucchini, green beans, cooked onions and that

is

> about it. He can't tolerate many carbs at all, and I don't think he

> tolerates carrots well either.>>

At the beginning carrots should be cooked until very soft (ie cooked

for 4 hours in the chicken soup) and then pureed. Many think they

don't tolerate carrots but aren't cooking them long enough. What I

used to do is cook a huge pot of chicken soup with carrots. Then

freeze the carrots in appropriate portions. Then as needed thaw and

puree them (with either water or chicken broth).

<< Until starting the SCD yogurt and

> upping the amount of digestive enzymes he takes (Zyme Prime) he

> suffered from constant diarrhea and very loose stools. We are now

at> about 50-80% firm with the stools and his behavior is slowly

> improving. I am hopeful that doing the intro will really help him

keep> progressing.>>

It sounds like you are going in the right direction.

<< Is it okay to do the intro diet using winter squash instead of

> carrots?>>

You can use squash but it won't be the " Intro diet " . It will be a

very basic and if that works for you - go for it. What will be

important is to find what basic foods work for you and as you add

*one* food at a time note all bowel and behavioural reactions.

Foods on your list to watch reactions for are the green beans and

onions. (Green beans are fibrous and onions have natural inulin)

<< Also since we are already doing SCD yogurt successfully can

> we keep that and cultured butter in the intro diet? The butter

seems very important to him (keeping the amount of fats he eats up

helps compensate for the fact that he can't tolerate many carbs). In

fact,> the raw butter we get from a nearby farm seems to be magic

for him. We> saw another big jump in improvement once we added that

in.>>

Butter isn't on the intro but like I wrote above it will be a very

basic diet that will help you figure out what he reacts to. So if

the butter helps him you keep giving it to him.

A little yogurt is included in the original " Intro diet " , so that

is fine (I am glad to hear it is helping him).

<< Also, are white and purple grape juice the only allowed juices on

the intro? What do those of you with severe salicylate intolerance

do?>>

Apple cider is also on the intro. I recently suggested for those

with salicylate problems to make their own apple juice at home by

using double peeled apples. I think some varieties of apples are

lesser in salicylates than others.

<< The

> jello has been very useful to us since the kids need a quick snack

and> can't eat fresh fruit anymore, but we have been using

pomengranet> which seems to be the only juice I can find so far that

doesn't make> them bonkers. Is it okay to keep doing the pomengranet

juice on the> intro or should we try white grape? >>

If it is homemade pom juice it isn't on the intro but if it works

for your " basic " diet then use it.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Hi Meleah,

Have you considered making your own butter? I once made my own

cultured butter. Not to hard to do if you have a food processor.

Are you dairy free these days?

Sheila

I've been trying to find raw butter forever, and haven't found it

yet.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Meleah and Sheila! I think we are going to do the actual strict

intro for 2 days and then transition into a basic diet that adds some

raw/cultured butter and winter squash for a few more days, then start

reintroducing foods VERY slowly.

I'm going to do a small test of white grape juice and see how they

react before making a decision on what to use in the jello on the intro.

thanks again for your help. We'll be starting our intro diet on

Monday!!!!!

Meleah, I'm in Ohio. I get my butter from a local farmer that sells at

a farmer's market in downtown Dayton. I feel the raw grassfed butter

is so magical because of the extra nutrients (X factor/vitamin K2, etc

etc) that it contains.

K

Hashi's, Fibro, CFS, copper overload, adrenal fatigue (mostly

healed!!!) Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea, ADHD,

salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues,

salicylate intolerance

SCD take two 1 month (gearing up to redo the intro diet)

>

> Hi

>

> << We recently went back to SCD and have been on it about 1 month. We

> > don't do any dairy besides SCD yogurt and cultured and/or raw

> butter,

> > no nuts, no honey, extremely little fruit. We have kind of been

> going

> > backwards, cutting out foods and working our way towards the intro

> > diet. Basically right now my son can eat SCD yogurt, meat/fish,

> fats,

> > eggs, winter squash, zucchini, green beans, cooked onions and that

> is

> > about it. He can't tolerate many carbs at all, and I don't think he

> > tolerates carrots well either.>>

>

>

> At the beginning carrots should be cooked until very soft (ie cooked

> for 4 hours in the chicken soup) and then pureed. Many think they

> don't tolerate carrots but aren't cooking them long enough. What I

> used to do is cook a huge pot of chicken soup with carrots. Then

> freeze the carrots in appropriate portions. Then as needed thaw and

> puree them (with either water or chicken broth).

>

>

> << Until starting the SCD yogurt and

> > upping the amount of digestive enzymes he takes (Zyme Prime) he

> > suffered from constant diarrhea and very loose stools. We are now

> at> about 50-80% firm with the stools and his behavior is slowly

> > improving. I am hopeful that doing the intro will really help him

> keep> progressing.>>

>

> It sounds like you are going in the right direction.

>

>

> << Is it okay to do the intro diet using winter squash instead of

> > carrots?>>

>

> You can use squash but it won't be the " Intro diet " . It will be a

> very basic and if that works for you - go for it. What will be

> important is to find what basic foods work for you and as you add

> *one* food at a time note all bowel and behavioural reactions.

>

> Foods on your list to watch reactions for are the green beans and

> onions. (Green beans are fibrous and onions have natural inulin)

>

> << Also since we are already doing SCD yogurt successfully can

> > we keep that and cultured butter in the intro diet? The butter

> seems very important to him (keeping the amount of fats he eats up

> helps compensate for the fact that he can't tolerate many carbs). In

> fact,> the raw butter we get from a nearby farm seems to be magic

> for him. We> saw another big jump in improvement once we added that

> in.>>

>

> Butter isn't on the intro but like I wrote above it will be a very

> basic diet that will help you figure out what he reacts to. So if

> the butter helps him you keep giving it to him.

> A little yogurt is included in the original " Intro diet " , so that

> is fine (I am glad to hear it is helping him).

>

> << Also, are white and purple grape juice the only allowed juices on

> the intro? What do those of you with severe salicylate intolerance

> do?>>

>

> Apple cider is also on the intro. I recently suggested for those

> with salicylate problems to make their own apple juice at home by

> using double peeled apples. I think some varieties of apples are

> lesser in salicylates than others.

>

> << The

> > jello has been very useful to us since the kids need a quick snack

> and> can't eat fresh fruit anymore, but we have been using

> pomengranet> which seems to be the only juice I can find so far that

> doesn't make> them bonkers. Is it okay to keep doing the pomengranet

> juice on the> intro or should we try white grape? >>

>

> If it is homemade pom juice it isn't on the intro but if it works

> for your " basic " diet then use it.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

I've never thought of making my own butter. Can you give me instructions? I'd

still have to get raw milk out-of-state. It isn't legal to sell it in our

state, but the state just 30 minutes away allows it. I'd probably have to drive

an hour to get the raw milk. I'd love instructions. iel is fine with

dairy.

Meleah

iel 4yrs. old, ASD DX May, 06, SCD May 06

Ethan 6yrs., 2yrs., both NT

Re: About to redo the intro diet and have questions.....

Hi Meleah,

Have you considered making your own butter? I once made my own

cultured butter. Not to hard to do if you have a food processor.

Are you dairy free these days?

Sheila

I've been trying to find raw butter forever, and haven't found it

yet.

[Guest guest]

It isn't legal in our state either. We do a cow share program. We pay

a " boarding fee " for our share of the cow and then we are entitled to

some of the milk/butter and since we " own " part of the cow we can

decide whether to consume the products raw or not.

K

>

> I've never thought of making my own butter. Can you give me

instructions? I'd still have to get raw milk out-of-state. It isn't

legal to sell it in our state, but the state just 30 minutes away

allows it. I'd probably have to drive an hour to get the raw milk.

I'd love instructions. iel is fine with dairy.

> Meleah

> iel 4yrs. old, ASD DX May, 06, SCD May 06

> Ethan 6yrs., 2yrs., both NT

> Re: About to redo the intro diet and have

questions.....

>

>

> Hi Meleah,

>

> Have you considered making your own butter? I once made my own

> cultured butter. Not to hard to do if you have a food processor.

> Are you dairy free these days?

>

> Sheila

>

> I've been trying to find raw butter forever, and haven't found it

> yet.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Our cow share provides us with raw butter already made, so I don't

have a recipe for it. Perhaps Sheila has a recipe?

>

> Could I get the recipe too for how to make the butter? I do a cow share

> also.

>

>

> SCD 5 months

> eczema, food allergies

>

[Guest guest]

Could I get the recipe too for how to make the butter? I do a cow share

also.

SCD 5 months

eczema, food allergies

-- Re: About to redo the intro diet and have questions...

..

It isn't legal in our state either. We do a cow share program. We pay

a " boarding fee " for our share of the cow and then we are entitled to

some of the milk/butter and since we " own " part of the cow we can

decide whether to consume the products raw or not.

K

>

> I've never thought of making my own butter. Can you give me

instructions? I'd still have to get raw milk out-of-state. It isn't

legal to sell it in our state, but the state just 30 minutes away

allows it. I'd probably have to drive an hour to get the raw milk.

I'd love instructions. iel is fine with dairy.

> Meleah

> iel 4yrs. old, ASD DX May, 06, SCD May 06

> Ethan 6yrs., 2yrs., both NT

> Re: About to redo the intro diet and have

questions.....

>

>

> Hi Meleah,

>

> Have you considered making your own butter? I once made my own

> cultured butter. Not to hard to do if you have a food processor.

> Are you dairy free these days?

>

> Sheila

>

> I've been trying to find raw butter forever, and haven't found it

> yet.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

<<Could I get the recipe too for how to make the butter? I do a cow

share also.>>

I thought I posted it the other day, but I think my computer ate it

(computer problems)

I use the recipe at this link:

http://webexhibits.org/butter/doityourself.html

To culture the cream I used yogurt starter and fermented at room

temperature for about 12 hours

I cleaned the butter a lot. It is important to store it properly. I

didn't add salt but may the next time.

Sheila, SCD Feb, 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

I used organic cream. It is the only stuff I can find without additives. It

was delicious

Sheila

Re: About to redo the intro diet and have questions...

..

Hi ,

<<Could I get the recipe too for how to make the butter? I do a cow

share also.>>

I thought I posted it the other day, but I think my computer ate it

(computer problems)

I use the recipe at this link:

http://webexhibits. org/butter/ doityourself. html

To culture the cream I used yogurt starter and fermented at room

temperature for about 12 hours

I cleaned the butter a lot. It is important to store it properly. I

didn't add salt but may the next time.

Sheila, SCD Feb, 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sheila. I am so excited! What type of cream do you use? I can

t wait to make this.

, SCD 5 months

eczema, food allergies

-- Re: About to redo the intro diet and have questions...

..

Hi ,

<<Could I get the recipe too for how to make the butter? I do a cow

share also.>>

I thought I posted it the other day, but I think my computer ate it

(computer problems)

I use the recipe at this link:

http://webexhibits.org/butter/doityourself.html

To culture the cream I used yogurt starter and fermented at room

temperature for about 12 hours

I cleaned the butter a lot. It is important to store it properly. I

didn't add salt but may the next time.

Sheila, SCD Feb, 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and