Bigtime newbie. pulling info together to see if I can do this.

[Guest guest]

Hi all! I found out about SCD in the last month or so. This is my

situation. This is really for my son (7 y/o). My husband could

really benefit from this, but don't know that I could get him to

follow this with all his issues.

My son has (offically diagnosed) ADHD, Asperger's Syndrome (on the

Autism Spectrum), OCD and more than likely Dyslexia (undiagnosed

still as yet). We've tried all the ADHD meds and hate the side

effects. So, we found the Feingold Diet and have been doing it for

3 months or so. In addition my son is CF, very low sugar, allergic

to almonds (I know that is a big downer with SCD) and peanuts. He

seems to be highly sensitive to salicylates, MSG and possiblly some

form of CS. Removing milk has been the LARGEST improvement. He

still has trouble with hyperactivity and lack of self control and

somewhat spacey even on Feingold. I'm having a large amount of

trouble figuring out what all triggers him.

Question #1 Is the IgG testing especially beneficial. I

understand the long haired explanation of how it tends to show many

false positives due to laboratory protocols, etc. We were planning

on getting it done, but waiting on the dr's office to set it

up/approve it. Any of you have positive or negative experience with

it?

Question #2 My son has an unbelievable metabolism. He eats HUGE

amounts. The largest problem I see with SCD is potatoes and rice.

A typical dinner for him is 2 cups of rice/potatoes, whole chicken

breast (or fish, meat in equal portions), whole can or fresh and

boiled green beans or carrots and maybe a roll. There's not a

metabolism problem as that is normal for my family. I am trying to

figure out how to make it work without starving him. He went

through a time last year where he did not grow for the whole year

and was sick the entire winter due to appetite suppressing effects

of ADHD meds. The pediatrician had to give him an appetite

stimulant and his weight picked up and he stopped being sick all the

time. I don't want to go through that again. Any advice or

experience or words of knowledge? I'm really concerned about getting

enough food in his body. All my friends are amazed at how much he

and I both eat.

Question #3 I am stretched to the end and under a doc's care due

to stress from all our family has been through. I spend huge

amounts of time in the kitchen already due to Feingold and making

just about everything that he puts in his mouth. How much more time

will be involved with SCD?

I love the idea of healing the gut so that maybe later he could

tolerate more. I like the whole idea of how SCD works and what it

does, but I am trying to figure out how I could accomplish this. He

is not on any supplements yet. I couldn't find any fish oils he

could tolerate. I think it is because there is rosemary extract in

all of them and he is highly sensitive to salicylates. I am

interested in trying one the the enzyme formulas, but haven't gotten

that far yet. Any advice would be helpful. I'm so overwhelmed, but

know we can't keep living this way.

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list bftodd,

<<My son has (offically diagnosed) ADHD, Asperger's Syndrome (on the

> Autism Spectrum), OCD and more than likely Dyslexia (undiagnosed

> still as yet). We've tried all the ADHD meds and hate the side

> effects. So, we found the Feingold Diet and have been doing it for

> 3 months or so. In addition my son is CF, very low sugar, allergic

> to almonds (I know that is a big downer with SCD) and peanuts. He

> seems to be highly sensitive to salicylates, MSG and possiblly some

> form of CS. Removing milk has been the LARGEST improvement. He

> still has trouble with hyperactivity and lack of self control and

> somewhat spacey even on Feingold. I'm having a large amount of

> trouble figuring out what all triggers him.

>

Question #2 My son has an unbelievable metabolism. He eats HUGE

> amounts. The largest problem I see with SCD is potatoes and rice.

> A typical dinner for him is 2 cups of rice/potatoes, whole chicken

> breast (or fish, meat in equal portions), whole can or fresh and

> boiled green beans or carrots and maybe a roll. There's not a

> metabolism problem as that is normal for my family. I am trying to

> figure out how to make it work without starving him. He went

> through a time last year where he did not grow for the whole year

> and was sick the entire winter due to appetite suppressing effects

> of ADHD meds. The pediatrician had to give him an appetite

> stimulant and his weight picked up and he stopped being sick all

the

> time. I don't want to go through that again. Any advice or

> experience or words of knowledge? I'm really concerned about

getting

> enough food in his body. All my friends are amazed at how much he

> and I both eat.>>

I used to eat huge amounts preSCD. When I started the diet I was

underweight and continued to have a large appetite. But once I came

to a good weight for my height and build my appetite normalized.

Many others have reported this. You may see an increase in appetitie

at the beginning of the diet beacsue children need the extra calories

for healing and if there has been any delay in growth (if it was

supressed because he was ill) once his body has started healing he

may go through growth spurts - also a very commonly reported finding

by parents of SCD kids. Once they start to heal there body

plays " catch up " .

<< Question #3 I am stretched to the end and under a doc's care

due to stress from all our family has been through. I spend huge

> amounts of time in the kitchen already due to Feingold and making

> just about everything that he puts in his mouth. How much more time

> will be involved with SCD?>>

A number of people have said that they find this easier than feingold

beacuse you just use basic simple foods. If you make a lot of SCD

breads and cookies and fancy recipes it may take more time. I find I

spend less time overall because I skip the processed foods in the

grocery store, I cook and prepare in bulk and freeze a lot of foods

in usable portion sizes and tend to cook simply.

Some people get help from church organizations, volunteer groups,

family etc to lessen the burden.

<<I love the idea of healing the gut so that maybe later he could

> tolerate more. I like the whole idea of how SCD works and what it

> does, but I am trying to figure out how I could accomplish this.

He

> is not on any supplements yet. I couldn't find any fish oils he

> could tolerate. I think it is because there is rosemary extract in

> all of them and he is highly sensitive to salicylates.>>

I believe Nordic Naturals makes some plain ones. I use a plain CLO

with omega 3's from Carlsons. It has a good fish taste (i have

tasted a few nasty fish oils over the years)

<< I am interested in trying one the the enzyme formulas, but

haven't gotten that far yet. Any advice would be helpful. I'm so

overwhelmed, but know we can't keep living this way.>>

There are a kazillion different enzyme types. Others may write in

about the enzymes they use for phenol/salicylates/enzymes in

general. If not are you looking for specific enzyme types?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Hi. We have some things in common so I thought I would respond to your

post. :-) We originally started SCD over year ago to treat my health

issues. It did help me tremendously. I started taking digestive

enzymes also and then decided we could go off the SCD some (added back

in rice, oatmeal, corn, sweet potatoes, etc) with the enzymes. Big

mistake. The enzymes did help a lot, but we weren't healed enough to

go off the SCD! Within a year I had picked up a new sensitivity to

rice, and I was beginning to notice my son having major ADHD symptoms.

I also came to terms with the fact that my sons chronic loose stools

and diarrhea were just not normal. We have been back on SCD for one

month now, and are at day one of the intro diet today (we waited a bit

to redo the intro diet).

>My husband could

> really benefit from this, but don't know that I could get him to

> follow this with all his issues.

My husband could really benefit as well, he has major GI issues, but

he is addicted to carbs and sugar. I keep hoping one day he will see

the changes in me and the kids and decide to give this thing a try. He

is a firefighter, so eats all his meals at the fire house every third

day (and it is a big social thing for them), so it would be tough for

him though. :-)

> My son has (offically diagnosed) ADHD, Asperger's Syndrome (on the

> Autism Spectrum), OCD and more than likely Dyslexia (undiagnosed

> still as yet). We've tried all the ADHD meds and hate the side

> effects. So, we found the Feingold Diet and have been doing it for

> 3 months or so. In addition my son is CF, very low sugar, allergic

> to almonds (I know that is a big downer with SCD) and peanuts. He

> seems to be highly sensitive to salicylates, MSG and possiblly some

> form of CS. Removing milk has been the LARGEST improvement. He

> still has trouble with hyperactivity and lack of self control and

> somewhat spacey even on Feingold. I'm having a large amount of

> trouble figuring out what all triggers him.

We tried Feingold previously as well. My kids behavior got worse and

worse. We had already eliminated all artificals, CS, etc etc and ate a

strict whole foods diet before coming to feingold, so all we changed

was taking out the natural salicylates. We made it about 10 weeks or

so and things were still not improving. In fact, they seemed to be

picking up more and more sensitivities to things. (ascorbic acid in

the vit. C supplement, etc etc) I then started hearing from some moms

on the board that had been stage .5 (eliminating even more than stage

1) for years and years without improvement. I thought to myself. There

has got to be a better way! Then I started looking at SCD again and

found mention of being able to tolerate more sals once gut healing had

occurred. Today my kids remain super sensitive to salicylates and it

really drives me crazy. It is still way worse than before we went on

feingold. I'm hopeful that once we've been SCD for awhile that they

will be able to tolerate more and more.

> Question #2 My son has an unbelievable metabolism. He eats HUGE

> amounts.

We eat 6 times a day. 3 meals and 3 snacks. This seems to really help

our metabolism and our blood sugar issues. My kids also graze on the

jello throughout the day if they get hungry in between meals/snacks.

I've found it is helpful to have a few staple snacks that are always

ready in the fridge for when they come saying, " I'm hungry! "

> Question #3 I am stretched to the end and under a doc's care due

> to stress from all our family has been through. I spend huge

> amounts of time in the kitchen already due to Feingold and making

> just about everything that he puts in his mouth. How much more time

> will be involved with SCD?

I agree with the previous responder who said SCD was a simple way of

cooking. Especially in the beginning when you are only eating a few

different foods. Our meals our very simple and basic, but still yummy.

I bake snacks (we like the pumpkin pie filling recipe made without

honey) and make yogurt about once or twice a week.

> I love the idea of healing the gut so that maybe later he could

> tolerate more. I like the whole idea of how SCD works and what it

> does, but I am trying to figure out how I could accomplish this. He

> is not on any supplements yet. I couldn't find any fish oils he

> could tolerate. I think it is because there is rosemary extract in

> all of them and he is highly sensitive to salicylates.

My son is highly sensitive to sals and he can tolerate the unflavored

therapeutic cod liver oil/butter oil blend at greenpasture.org. He

could not tolerate the same brand's regular cod liver oil in the

cinnamon flavor, maybe it had more rosemary in it, I don't know, but

the unflavored therapeutic blend has been the only fish oil he could

tolerate even though it too does contain some rosemary. I saw

improvement in his behavior once we started taking this blend, whereas

before every other fish oil had made him super hyper and crazy. The

dosing on the blend is a smaller amount than the regular version, (but

has the same nutrient values because it is more concentrated) so

perhaps the smaller dose (less rosemary) was what made the difference.

My son takes 2ml (a little less than 1/2 tsp) of the blend for the

same nutrient levels as 1 tsp of the regular cod liver oil. Plus the

blend contains butter oil. The butter oil has additional stuff in it

that is good for gut healing (X factor/vitamin K2).

>I am

> interested in trying one the the enzyme formulas, but haven't gotten

> that far yet. Any advice would be helpful. I'm so overwhelmed, but

> know we can't keep living this way.

We use the enzymes from Houston (http://www.houstonni.com). We take

AFP Peptizyde and Zyme Prime. We had been taking No Fenol, but Dr.

Houston felt it might be contributing to my son's loose stools, so we

pulled that out and saw more progress. The enzymes have made a huge

impact in my energy levels! In fact, without the healing I found from

them, there is no way I could do everything that I do to heal my son

these days. They did help my son's stools somewhat. We stopped seeing

undigested food. But they remained very loose until we went back on

SCD recently, started the SCD yogurt (magic stuff!!!!), and upped is

dosage of the Zyme PRime enzyme (it works on carbs).

Well, good luck to you. This group is awesome. I've found lots of help

and support here. Hope you find the same. :-)

K

Hashi's, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue

(mostly healed!!!!)

kids: son Rhowan, 5 yrs old, chronic loose stools/diarrhea, ADHD,

yeast/candida, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old,

mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

SCD take two 1 month (just started redoing the intro diet today!)

[Guest guest]

Here is a link to the specific cod liver oil blend that I was talking

about if you are interested.....

http://www.greenpasture.org/node/36

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

Is CLO cod liver oil? When you say plain, what all is in it? Would

it be a good option and still help with the Omega 3's? I tried

Nordic Naturals and they have rosemary extract.

I thought about Peptizyde and Zyme Prime (SCD and no fruit

versions). I've heard a lot of mother's say No Phenol gives their

children horrible reactions, but I'm thinking it my help my son if

he can tolerate it. I've eliminated so many things, but he still

has some problems and intermittent zone-out times and difficulty

reading times also, but not constantly. He doesn't consume any

casein at all, he does some gluten (it doesn't really seem to be a

problem) however. So, would there be any use for the Peptizyde. My

understanding is that it helps with the gluten and casein. I think

really think something to help process salicylates and a good

general enzyme. I'm wondering if he is having problems with

specific foods.

I'm looking into the IgG food allergy panel. I'm not sure the lab

protocols are totally efficient. It could give more false

positives, but I wondered if there would be some value in it to

steer me away from certain foods that could be an issue.

Sorry of this is not in the right format. I'm getting used to this

group.

Bonita

mom to - Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Feingold 3 months, few food

allergies

>

> Welcome to the list bftodd,

>

> <<My son has (offically diagnosed) ADHD, Asperger's Syndrome (on

the

> > Autism Spectrum), OCD and more than likely Dyslexia (undiagnosed

> > still as yet). We've tried all the ADHD meds and hate the side

> > effects. So, we found the Feingold Diet and have been doing it

for

> > 3 months or so. In addition my son is CF, very low sugar,

allergic

> > to almonds (I know that is a big downer with SCD) and peanuts.

He

> > seems to be highly sensitive to salicylates, MSG and possiblly

some

> > form of CS. Removing milk has been the LARGEST improvement. He

> > still has trouble with hyperactivity and lack of self control

and

> > somewhat spacey even on Feingold. I'm having a large amount of

> > trouble figuring out what all triggers him.

> >

>

> Question #2 My son has an unbelievable metabolism. He eats

HUGE

> > amounts. The largest problem I see with SCD is potatoes and

rice.

> > A typical dinner for him is 2 cups of rice/potatoes, whole

chicken

> > breast (or fish, meat in equal portions), whole can or fresh and

> > boiled green beans or carrots and maybe a roll. There's not a

> > metabolism problem as that is normal for my family. I am trying

to

> > figure out how to make it work without starving him. He went

> > through a time last year where he did not grow for the whole

year

> > and was sick the entire winter due to appetite suppressing

effects

> > of ADHD meds. The pediatrician had to give him an appetite

> > stimulant and his weight picked up and he stopped being sick all

> the

> > time. I don't want to go through that again. Any advice or

> > experience or words of knowledge? I'm really concerned about

> getting

> > enough food in his body. All my friends are amazed at how much

he

> > and I both eat.>>

>

> I used to eat huge amounts preSCD. When I started the diet I was

> underweight and continued to have a large appetite. But once I

came

> to a good weight for my height and build my appetite normalized.

> Many others have reported this. You may see an increase in

appetitie

> at the beginning of the diet beacsue children need the extra

calories

> for healing and if there has been any delay in growth (if it was

> supressed because he was ill) once his body has started healing he

> may go through growth spurts - also a very commonly reported

finding

> by parents of SCD kids. Once they start to heal there body

> plays " catch up " .

>

>

> << Question #3 I am stretched to the end and under a doc's care

> due to stress from all our family has been through. I spend huge

> > amounts of time in the kitchen already due to Feingold and

making

> > just about everything that he puts in his mouth. How much more

time

> > will be involved with SCD?>>

>

> A number of people have said that they find this easier than

feingold

> beacuse you just use basic simple foods. If you make a lot of SCD

> breads and cookies and fancy recipes it may take more time. I

find I

> spend less time overall because I skip the processed foods in the

> grocery store, I cook and prepare in bulk and freeze a lot of

foods

> in usable portion sizes and tend to cook simply.

>

> Some people get help from church organizations, volunteer groups,

> family etc to lessen the burden.

>

> <<I love the idea of healing the gut so that maybe later he could

> > tolerate more. I like the whole idea of how SCD works and what

it

> > does, but I am trying to figure out how I could accomplish

this.

> He

> > is not on any supplements yet. I couldn't find any fish oils he

> > could tolerate. I think it is because there is rosemary extract

in

> > all of them and he is highly sensitive to salicylates.>>

>

> I believe Nordic Naturals makes some plain ones. I use a plain

CLO

> with omega 3's from Carlsons. It has a good fish taste (i have

> tasted a few nasty fish oils over the years)

>

> << I am interested in trying one the the enzyme formulas, but

> haven't gotten that far yet. Any advice would be helpful. I'm

so

> overwhelmed, but know we can't keep living this way.>>

>

> There are a kazillion different enzyme types. Others may write in

> about the enzymes they use for phenol/salicylates/enzymes in

> general. If not are you looking for specific enzyme types?

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

K,

Thanks for the link. Thanks for the post. It is nice to know you

are not alone. My husband has horrendous gut issues, some

heridetary and some from 9 years of heavy narcotics, muscle relaxers

and nerve meds due to an auto accident. The meds and all their side

effects in addition to the deterioration of general health and

infections/antibiotic use due to chronic pain has ruin his insides.

He works hard in spite of it all to support our family in a fast

paced travel all day job.

Do you make the goat yogurt? Do you get raw goat yogurt from some

farm or something? My local health food coop store has some goat

milk in the fridge section that says on it in bold that it is for

animals not human consumption, I didn't know if that would work.

The tolerance of it would be a thing of concern for my son since he

is highly reactive to casein. Do you flavor it or can you?

I'm wondering how long you would have to do SCD to see a good

improvement in tolerating sal's. Is this SCD thing a life thing.

My son has never had trouble with his stools at all - no loose

stools, no undigested food, etc. The only indication of digesting

issues would be his incredible hyperactivity, spaciness, bizarre

behaviors and over-stimulation, etc.

Thanks again! Hope I can get this together and see a difference.

I've got to get some menus together before I start. Sounds more

limiting to me because he has additional food issues and requires so

much food. Are there any menu idea resources here as with Feingold?

Bonita

son, - ADHD, Asperger's, OCD, highly salicylate sensitive

>

> Hi. We have some things in common so I thought I would respond to

your

> post. :-) We originally started SCD over year ago to treat my

health

> issues. It did help me tremendously. I started taking digestive

> enzymes also and then decided we could go off the SCD some (added

back

> in rice, oatmeal, corn, sweet potatoes, etc) with the enzymes. Big

> mistake. The enzymes did help a lot, but we weren't healed enough

to

> go off the SCD! Within a year I had picked up a new sensitivity to

> rice, and I was beginning to notice my son having major ADHD

symptoms.

> I also came to terms with the fact that my sons chronic loose

stools

> and diarrhea were just not normal. We have been back on SCD for one

> month now, and are at day one of the intro diet today (we waited a

bit

> to redo the intro diet).

>

> >My husband could

> > really benefit from this, but don't know that I could get him to

> > follow this with all his issues.

>

> My husband could really benefit as well, he has major GI issues,

but

> he is addicted to carbs and sugar. I keep hoping one day he will

see

> the changes in me and the kids and decide to give this thing a

try. He

> is a firefighter, so eats all his meals at the fire house every

third

> day (and it is a big social thing for them), so it would be tough

for

> him though. :-)

>

> > My son has (offically diagnosed) ADHD, Asperger's Syndrome (on

the

> > Autism Spectrum), OCD and more than likely Dyslexia (undiagnosed

> > still as yet). We've tried all the ADHD meds and hate the side

> > effects. So, we found the Feingold Diet and have been doing it

for

> > 3 months or so. In addition my son is CF, very low sugar,

allergic

> > to almonds (I know that is a big downer with SCD) and peanuts.

He

> > seems to be highly sensitive to salicylates, MSG and possiblly

some

> > form of CS. Removing milk has been the LARGEST improvement. He

> > still has trouble with hyperactivity and lack of self control

and

> > somewhat spacey even on Feingold. I'm having a large amount of

> > trouble figuring out what all triggers him.

>

> We tried Feingold previously as well. My kids behavior got worse

and

> worse. We had already eliminated all artificals, CS, etc etc and

ate a

> strict whole foods diet before coming to feingold, so all we

changed

> was taking out the natural salicylates. We made it about 10 weeks

or

> so and things were still not improving. In fact, they seemed to be

> picking up more and more sensitivities to things. (ascorbic acid in

> the vit. C supplement, etc etc) I then started hearing from some

moms

> on the board that had been stage .5 (eliminating even more than

stage

> 1) for years and years without improvement. I thought to myself.

There

> has got to be a better way! Then I started looking at SCD again and

> found mention of being able to tolerate more sals once gut healing

had

> occurred. Today my kids remain super sensitive to salicylates and

it

> really drives me crazy. It is still way worse than before we went

on

> feingold. I'm hopeful that once we've been SCD for awhile that they

> will be able to tolerate more and more.

>

> > Question #2 My son has an unbelievable metabolism. He eats

HUGE

> > amounts.

>

> We eat 6 times a day. 3 meals and 3 snacks. This seems to really

help

> our metabolism and our blood sugar issues. My kids also graze on

the

> jello throughout the day if they get hungry in between

meals/snacks.

> I've found it is helpful to have a few staple snacks that are

always

> ready in the fridge for when they come saying, " I'm hungry! "

>

> > Question #3 I am stretched to the end and under a doc's care

due

> > to stress from all our family has been through. I spend huge

> > amounts of time in the kitchen already due to Feingold and

making

> > just about everything that he puts in his mouth. How much more

time

> > will be involved with SCD?

>

> I agree with the previous responder who said SCD was a simple way

of

> cooking. Especially in the beginning when you are only eating a few

> different foods. Our meals our very simple and basic, but still

yummy.

> I bake snacks (we like the pumpkin pie filling recipe made without

> honey) and make yogurt about once or twice a week.

>

> > I love the idea of healing the gut so that maybe later he could

> > tolerate more. I like the whole idea of how SCD works and what

it

> > does, but I am trying to figure out how I could accomplish

this. He

> > is not on any supplements yet. I couldn't find any fish oils he

> > could tolerate. I think it is because there is rosemary extract

in

> > all of them and he is highly sensitive to salicylates.

>

> My son is highly sensitive to sals and he can tolerate the

unflavored

> therapeutic cod liver oil/butter oil blend at greenpasture.org. He

> could not tolerate the same brand's regular cod liver oil in the

> cinnamon flavor, maybe it had more rosemary in it, I don't know,

but

> the unflavored therapeutic blend has been the only fish oil he

could

> tolerate even though it too does contain some rosemary. I saw

> improvement in his behavior once we started taking this blend,

whereas

> before every other fish oil had made him super hyper and crazy. The

> dosing on the blend is a smaller amount than the regular version,

(but

> has the same nutrient values because it is more concentrated) so

> perhaps the smaller dose (less rosemary) was what made the

difference.

> My son takes 2ml (a little less than 1/2 tsp) of the blend for the

> same nutrient levels as 1 tsp of the regular cod liver oil. Plus

the

> blend contains butter oil. The butter oil has additional stuff in

it

> that is good for gut healing (X factor/vitamin K2).

>

> >I am

> > interested in trying one the the enzyme formulas, but haven't

gotten

> > that far yet. Any advice would be helpful. I'm so overwhelmed,

but

> > know we can't keep living this way.

>

> We use the enzymes from Houston (http://www.houstonni.com). We take

> AFP Peptizyde and Zyme Prime. We had been taking No Fenol, but Dr.

> Houston felt it might be contributing to my son's loose stools, so

we

> pulled that out and saw more progress. The enzymes have made a huge

> impact in my energy levels! In fact, without the healing I found

from

> them, there is no way I could do everything that I do to heal my

son

> these days. They did help my son's stools somewhat. We stopped

seeing

> undigested food. But they remained very loose until we went back on

> SCD recently, started the SCD yogurt (magic stuff!!!!), and upped

is

> dosage of the Zyme PRime enzyme (it works on carbs).

>

> Well, good luck to you. This group is awesome. I've found lots of

help

> and support here. Hope you find the same. :-)

>

> K

> Hashi's, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal

fatigue

> (mostly healed!!!!)

> kids: son Rhowan, 5 yrs old, chronic loose stools/diarrhea, ADHD,

> yeast/candida, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old,

> mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

> SCD take two 1 month (just started redoing the intro diet today!)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonita,

<<Is CLO cod liver oil? When you say plain, what all is in it?

Would > it be a good option and still help with the Omega 3's? I

tried > Nordic Naturals and they have rosemary extract.>>

Have you looked at the Nordic Naturals " Professionals page " ; it lists

some unflavoured oils:

http://www.nordicnaturals.com/professional/products.asp

http://www.nordicnaturals.com/images/pdfs/SupplementFactsPro.pdf

If you contact them let them know you can't have any trace of

rosemary to see if any are really 100% unflavoured.

The Carlson's bottle I have is a newer product and I couldn't find it

listed on their website. The ingredients listed for the Carlson's

Cod liver Oil Super 100mg:

Vit A 2000 IU

Vit D 250 IU

Vit E Natural (d-Alpha Tocopherol) 10 IU

Omega 3 fatty acids: 240 mg:

consisting of EPA 90 mg

DHA 120 mg

ALA 20 mg

DPA 10 mg

Other ingredients: Soft Gel Shell: Beef Gelatin, glycerin, water

I squeeze the oil out of the gel and toss the shell; I take 2-3 /day.

The Shell ingredients are legal, but I prefer to skip the beef

gelatin and glycerin.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonita. Yes, it is always nice to know you are not alone. I could

not have survived without all the wonderful other parents out there

trying to do the same thing I'm doing with my kids.

I do not currently use goat yogurt, although that is the recommended

source for kids on the autism spectrum. We have been using

non-homogenized, lightly pasteurized cow milk from a local farm. We do

not seem to have a problem with the cow casein as long as it has been

denatured by the yogurt making process.

The goat milk you describe from your health food coop would work just

fine. They just label it that way to get around laws that forbid the

sale of raw milk in certain states. Many parents of kids that are

highly reactive to casein have given great reports of their tolerance

to the goat yogurt. If you haven't yet, check out

http://www.pecanbread.com there is tons of information there on how to

start out, including recipes, how to make the yogurt, information on

tolerance of the yogurt, etc etc.

There is also some interesting info on dairy and the SCD

here:http://www.enzymestuff.com/discussiondairy.htm#6

As for how long you have to be SCD to see improvement on sal

tolerance, I think that would depend on how damaged the gut and body

chemisty are. Many that I contacted for advice when deciding to go

back to SCD reported that within a few months they were able to

tolerate more and more sals.

I don't believe that SCD is a life long thing, but maybe a moderator

can comment more on this, since I'm technically still a newbie. Once

the gut heals (after a year or two or more in some cases) many people

are able to add in non-SCD foods as long as they are healthy and

wholesome. And many are also capable of enjoying the occasional " bad "

treat. I think the intent of the diet is to restore gut health so that

one can properly digest any and all healthy foods and not that one

would have to remain strictly SCD forever.

Not everyone has overt digestive symptoms. I didn't when I first

started the diet. I began my journey by discovering that gluten

triggered my joint pain and fatigue and then I went to SCD to cure

that. SCD helped me greatly even though I didn't realize I had gut

problems.

Yes, definitely get menu items and things planned out before you

start. It is a little more limiting in the beginning because on the

intro diet you will only be eating a couple of different foods, but

then you can start adding things in one by one and see what he

tolerates. So initially yes, it is very restrictive, but that doesn't

last long. You can find recipes at http://www.pecanbread.com There are

also recipes at http://www.scdrecipe.com

K

Hashi's, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal

fatigue(mostly healed!!!!)

kids: son Rhowan, 5 yrs old, chronic loose stools/diarrhea, ADHD,

yeast/candida, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old,

mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

SCD take two 1 month (today is day two of our intro diet)

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

Thanks for the info.

Bonita

>

> Hi Bonita,

>

> <<Is CLO cod liver oil? When you say plain, what all is in it?

> Would > it be a good option and still help with the Omega 3's? I

> tried > Nordic Naturals and they have rosemary extract.>>

>

> Have you looked at the Nordic Naturals " Professionals page " ; it

lists

> some unflavoured oils:

> http://www.nordicnaturals.com/professional/products.asp

> http://www.nordicnaturals.com/images/pdfs/SupplementFactsPro.pdf

>

> If you contact them let them know you can't have any trace of

> rosemary to see if any are really 100% unflavoured.

>

> The Carlson's bottle I have is a newer product and I couldn't find

it

> listed on their website. The ingredients listed for the Carlson's

> Cod liver Oil Super 100mg:

> Vit A 2000 IU

> Vit D 250 IU

> Vit E Natural (d-Alpha Tocopherol) 10 IU

>

> Omega 3 fatty acids: 240 mg:

> consisting of EPA 90 mg

> DHA 120 mg

> ALA 20 mg

> DPA 10 mg

> Other ingredients: Soft Gel Shell: Beef Gelatin, glycerin, water

>

> I squeeze the oil out of the gel and toss the shell; I take 2-

3 /day.

>

> The Shell ingredients are legal, but I prefer to skip the beef

> gelatin and glycerin.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

> mom of and

>