High ammonia as a result of scd diet? genetic problem...

[Guest guest]

We have done some genetic testing with Yasko and our results indicated that we

might have a problem with a high protein diet. We just ran a urine amino acids

test and came back with very, very high ammonia which is, as I understand it, a

result of a lot of protein. We ran it after being scd for around 3 weeks. Has

anyone had this problem with the scd diet and their genetics? What can I do?

[Guest guest]

We've never done any genetic stuff, but we frequently do the metabolic analysis

from Genova Diagnostics. iel lab in March and June both came back with

somewhat high amonia levels. The DAN said it is pretty common on SCD, and that

we just need to watch it. We need to push more of the veggies and fruits, and

cut back on the animal protein. For us, that really means to push more veggies.

He loves fruit, but I monitor how much he eats of that because I don't want to

have more yeast problems to contend with. He resists veggies, and I always have

to feed them to him myself to get him to eat them. I just need to be more

persistent in getting a lot of veggies and fruits in him each day.

Meleah

High ammonia as a result of scd diet? genetic problem...

We have done some genetic testing with Yasko and our results indicated that we

might have a problem with a high protein diet. We just ran a urine amino acids

test and came back with very, very high ammonia which is, as I understand it, a

result of a lot of protein. We ran it after being scd for around 3 weeks. Has

anyone had this problem with the scd diet and their genetics? What can I do?

[Guest guest]

Just curious. Would rotating beans, eggs, chicken, buffalo, and beef help with

amonia problems? I have not had my boys tested. Do not have a DAN doctor, but

have wondered because they eat chicken and either beef or buffalo every day. I

am worried it may be too much meat. If I gave them some kind of bean dish and

other veggies and no meat on some of those days, would that help?

Dana

robin wrote:

We've never done any genetic stuff, but we frequently do the metabolic

analysis from Genova Diagnostics. iel lab in March and June both came back

with somewhat high amonia levels. The DAN said it is pretty common on SCD, and

that we just need to watch it. We need to push more of the veggies and fruits,

and cut back on the animal protein. For us, that really means to push more

veggies. He loves fruit, but I monitor how much he eats of that because I don't

want to have more yeast problems to contend with. He resists veggies, and I

always have to feed them to him myself to get him to eat them. I just need to be

more persistent in getting a lot of veggies and fruits in him each day.

Meleah

High ammonia as a result of scd diet? genetic problem...

We have done some genetic testing with Yasko and our results indicated that we

might have a problem with a high protein diet. We just ran a urine amino acids

test and came back with very, very high ammonia which is, as I understand it, a

result of a lot of protein. We ran it after being scd for around 3 weeks. Has

anyone had this problem with the scd diet and their genetics? What can I do?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Why children with high amonia levels may benefit from SCD?

It is now generally accepted that ammonia results from the breakdown

of protein from food, discarded body cells and dead microorganisms.

Reducing the amount of microorganisms in the gut with SCD is very

helpful for lowering the ammonia levels.

A parent once wrote this on our list:

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" It is quite some time ago now, but we had a bunch of tests run before

starting SCD and again after 6 months into it. Ammonia and cholesterol

levels were initially both high. After 6 months of SCD they were both

reduced, ammonia levels came down to the normal range and cholesterol

levels also came down but I can't remember how far. "

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HTH,

Mimi

> We have done some genetic testing with Yasko and our results indicated that

> we might have a problem with a high protein diet. We just ran a urine amino

> acids test and came back with very, very high ammonia which is, as I

> understand it, a result of a lot of protein. We ran it after being scd for

> around 3 weeks. Has anyone had this problem with the scd diet and their

> genetics? What can I do?

[Guest guest]

My suggestion is to get the ammonia levels ran by an actual metabolic

specialist. The autism labs are notorious for indicating high ammonia, when in

all actuality the blood sample was simply not prepared immediately. Ammonia

goes up in a normal sample if it is not processed " critical frozen. " If a child

has actual high ammonia, they should be evaluated by a metabolic specialist

anyway (not a DAN doctor). DAN doctors are not qualified to interpret problems

of metabolism. There is a family in our community who's DAN doctor ran the MAP

on a child for 4 years and never once picked up on the fact that this child had

a life-threatening metabolic disorder. Why? The doctor is a DAN doctor and has

no ability to read a metabolic panel, which is why the MAP is used (it comes

with a commentary, so the doctor just has to read the commentary to the patient

-- doesn't have to actually interpret the labs).

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wrote:

We have done some genetic testing with Yasko and our results indicated

that we might have a problem with a high protein diet. We just ran a urine amino

acids test and came back with very, very high ammonia which is, as I understand

it, a result of a lot of protein. We ran it after being scd for around 3 weeks.

Has anyone had this problem with the scd diet and their genetics? What can I do?