Tweaking SCD WAS: Judy's book

June 26, 2007

Dear SCD Pals,

Last message said: " Judy Chinitz urges people to buy her book in her talks. Her

book encourages parents to change SCD. Please do not encourage parents to listen

to her talks until we resolve the differences between us. "

I especially get a little upset by those who suggest the " tweaking " of SCd.

SINCE we know that one does not have to, to get the wonderful benefits of SCD.

~16 months ago we came to SCD with a very long and daunting list of problems.

Pure SCD done by the book and done " fanatically " worked for: Our CD, ibd, ibs,

autism, asd, adhd, add, seizures, gut disbiosis, heavy metal symptoms, and more.

Our " autistic " daughter started SCD right before she turned 2 years old. SCD

has changed her so much that those who don't know the spectrum, might think her

" neruotypical " . SCD also helps with her seizures and helping her heavy metal

symptoms. She has not had a delirium since two months into the diet. All signs

of heavy metals have vanished. She is now talking at a 2 year old level....from

not talking at all. She is now three. This is much healing in such a short

time.

Guys...this was pure SCD. No fancy supplements, No antifungals, no fancy tests,

no chelation or DAN! needed to help us. Just healing her gut with SCD....and

all the benefits that come from this.

All members of my family have benefited from SCD, simply by doing it by the

book.

I think people get carried away with listening to DOCTORS too much and thinking

that the " cure " can come from a pill or doing something else.

WE want so desperately to heal our sick children, or our own sick bodies.

Several of our doctors we have been to has suggested things that Elaine might

have been completely against. One of the worse doctor's for telling us to

" tweak " SCD was our DAN! that I quit going to! If I had followed some of these

suggestions I now know that we would not have had success that we have.

Now...I do realize that we all have to make our choices and have circumstances

that are all different that might lead us to different solution. But one truly

has to be careful changing SCD. WE had to add prescription enzymes due to true

pancreatic insufficiency. Some things are safe to do.

BUT it doesn't take much to change SCD to " Fred's Diet " ....or " Sam's Diet " ...or

" Marsha's Diet " ....when we do things that Elaine did not suggest it is no longer

SCD TM. When we do this and SCD does not work. WE should not blame SCD...but

the " tweaking " of it.

So beware guys. When Elaine suggested " fanatical adherence " she meant it. I

know that this takes FAITH....oh how I know. I wasted much money on " fixes "

before we committed to this degree....but what an outcome!

Antoinette and family of Five

(SCD 2/06)

" To be nobody but yourself in a world that is doing its best to make you

everyone else, is to fight the hardest battle anyone can fight. " E E Cummings

June 26, 2007

Hi Antoinette,

Judy doesn't advocate making any changes to SCD. She merely

encourages parents to get their children to eat more fruits and

vegetables, which many of our kids resist eating. Sid Baker, to this

point, references the China Study which promotes fruits and

vegetables rather than animal protein. This extremely reasonable and

healthy suggestion seems to be misunderstood by some people. Sid

isn't advocating the China Study diet vs. SCD for our kids, and Judy

doesn't " change " Elaine's diet in any way. I know because I actually

read Judy's book.

I did strict SCD, and I do mean, STRICT, for three plus years and I

also saw many benefits from it. My daughter went from a 6:1:2 ABA

class to attending typical first grade with an aide.

Judy's book is awesome. It's a powerful story about her relationship

with Elaine, and how SCD changed her and her very sick son's life.

We're all intelligent people capable of thinking for ourselves. If

you like Judy's book and it helps you to implement SCD for your

child, great. If you want to believe what others say about the book

rather than reading it for yourself that's OK too.

What I do know is that this is an almost impossible journey, and the

only thing that matters is getting as much information as possible to

help heal my child. Personally, I'm not the same gullible person

that I was seven years ago when I trusted the doctors who told me

that vaccines were safe. The only opinions I've come to trust are

those of parents, like Judy, who have sick kids of their own and live

the struggle every day. To check out Judy's book, WE Band of Mothers,

go to http://autismstore.dyndns.org/Books-We_Band_of_Mothers.html

Good luck to everyone,

Kate

>

> Dear SCD Pals,

>

> Last message said: " Judy Chinitz urges people to buy her book in

her talks. Her book encourages parents to change SCD. Please do not

encourage parents to listen to her talks until we resolve the

differences between us. "

>

> I especially get a little upset by those who suggest the " tweaking "

of SCd. SINCE we know that one does not have to, to get the

wonderful benefits of SCD.

>

> ~16 months ago we came to SCD with a very long and daunting list of

problems. Pure SCD done by the book and done " fanatically " worked

for: Our CD, ibd, ibs, autism, asd, adhd, add, seizures, gut

disbiosis, heavy metal symptoms, and more.

>

> Our " autistic " daughter started SCD right before she turned 2 years

old. SCD has changed her so much that those who don't know the

spectrum, might think her " neruotypical " . SCD also helps with her

seizures and helping her heavy metal symptoms. She has not had a

delirium since two months into the diet. All signs of heavy metals

have vanished. She is now talking at a 2 year old level....from not

talking at all. She is now three. This is much healing in such a

short time.

>

> Guys...this was pure SCD. No fancy supplements, No antifungals, no

fancy tests, no chelation or DAN! needed to help us. Just healing

her gut with SCD....and all the benefits that come from this.

>

> All members of my family have benefited from SCD, simply by doing

it by the book.

>

> I think people get carried away with listening to DOCTORS too much

and thinking that the " cure " can come from a pill or doing something

else.

>

> WE want so desperately to heal our sick children, or our own sick

bodies. Several of our doctors we have been to has suggested things

that Elaine might have been completely against. One of the worse

doctor's for telling us to " tweak " SCD was our DAN! that I quit going

to! If I had followed some of these suggestions I now know that we

would not have had success that we have.

>

> Now...I do realize that we all have to make our choices and have

circumstances that are all different that might lead us to different

solution. But one truly has to be careful changing SCD. WE had to

add prescription enzymes due to true pancreatic insufficiency. Some

things are safe to do.

>

> BUT it doesn't take much to change SCD to " Fred's

Diet " ....or " Sam's Diet " ...or " Marsha's Diet " ....when we do things

that Elaine did not suggest it is no longer SCD TM. When we do this

and SCD does not work. WE should not blame SCD...but the " tweaking "

of it.

>

> So beware guys. When Elaine suggested " fanatical adherence " she

meant it. I know that this takes FAITH....oh how I know. I wasted

much money on " fixes " before we committed to this degree....but what

an outcome!

>

> Antoinette and family of Five

> (SCD 2/06)

>

> " To be nobody but yourself in a world that is doing its best to

make you

> everyone else, is to fight the hardest battle anyone can fight. " E

E Cummings

>

June 26, 2007

>

> Hi Antoinette,

> Judy doesn't advocate making any changes to SCD. She merely

> encourages parents to get their children to eat more fruits and

> vegetables, which many of our kids resist eating. Sid Baker, to this

> point, references the China Study which promotes fruits and

> vegetables rather than animal protein. This extremely reasonable and

> healthy suggestion seems to be misunderstood by some people. Sid

> isn't advocating the China Study diet vs. SCD for our kids, and Judy

> doesn't " change " Elaine's diet in any way.

My comment here is going OT, but I would like to politely disagree

that stressing fruits and vegetables RATHER than animal protein is an

" extremely reasonable and healthy suggestion. " I disagree with the

China study. The China Study is extremely pro-vegan and I just can't

agree with that. Meat isn't the bad guy, the way meat is raised

commercially on corn and other grains is the bad guy. Animals raised

eating grass (their natural diet)have a healthy ratio of omega 3 to

omega 6 in them. Those animals force fed corn etc. come out mostly

omega 6, which is bad for you in overabundance. To sum it up ever so

shortly, it is the type of fats found in commercial meat that are so

problematic (along with all the antibiotics and other crap) and not

the healthy fats in grassfed meat. Our diet needs fruits, vegetables

AND animal protein/fat from natural grassfed sources and/or wild

caught fish. I do agree that it is important for kids/adults to get

MORE fruits and vegetables, but not at the exclusion of animal protein

as suggested in the China Study. My viewpoints here go way beyond the

scope of pecanbread, so I won't bring it up here again. In the end

everyone has to make up their own mind about what to feed themselves

and their kids. Luckily on SCD we have plenty of allowable foods that

let us customize the diet to our own particular needs.

And btw, I'm not saying all of the above makes Judy's book not worth

reading. On the contrary, it is definitely on my to order list.

K

June 26, 2007

Can someone clarify what amount of animal protein Elaine says you are supposed

to consume on SCD and what amount Judy says (other than " less than what Elaine

recommended " ). I have never found guidance from Elaine's writings on the amount

of animal protein required in the first place, so I am having a hard time

understanding the nature of this discussion. Is this broken down in to % in

BTVC? -- if so, I missed that part.

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