Help with timeline for introducing foods

[Guest guest]

OK, I've read the book, reviewed the website(s) and I'm still a bit confused. I

printed off the stages of the diet as I think I will need to live by the chart

until I truly get the hang of this. However, in the stages, I don't see if/when

to introduce things like honey, yogurt,goat cheese, vitamins and probiotics? I'm

hoping the honey is pretty early since an occasional sweet treat would probably

do a lot for morale. On the other hand, we are coming to this diet from GFCF

b/c we continue to struggle with yeast and clostridia. I certainly don't want to

add too much honey too soon for fear of feeding yeast and bacteria nor do I want

to undo any of the healing and hard work. Unlike GFCF, this diet seems

unforgiving of mistakes so I just keep checking and rechecking everything. We

are starting dairy free so the honey and yogurt are not included in the Intro

for us. I know all children are different but just for a frame of reference,

when can I start trying to introduce these

things? I'd like to write it in to my chart for future frame of

reference.Thanks in advance.

Mommy to 4 yrs pdd-nos/asd (almost fully recovered)

and 8 months

SCD June 2007

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[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

Honey is allowed on the intro diet. Technically, so is yogurt, but

people coming from CF diets are advised to wait 3 or 4 months before

introducing legal dairy so that the initial die off from this diet is

not confused with a reaction to casein.

After the intro diet, you can add your legal vitamins and legal

probiotics one at a time like foods to watch for reactions.

, mom to

[Guest guest]

Thanks . So you can have honey even though it is not listed on the

pecanbread version of the intro diet? I know it is listed in BTCV, but thought

it was different for ASD kids. Will adding honey in the intro lessen the effect

of killing all the yeast and bacteria we're trying to get rid of?

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julie46250 wrote:

Hi, ,

Honey is allowed on the intro diet. Technically, so is yogurt, but

people coming from CF diets are advised to wait 3 or 4 months before

introducing legal dairy so that the initial die off from this diet is

not confused with a reaction to casein.

After the intro diet, you can add your legal vitamins and legal

probiotics one at a time like foods to watch for reactions.

, mom to

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[Guest guest]

Leaving out dairy (butter, yogurt, DCC, cheese) are the only things

different for kids on the autism spectrum. Honey is fine. You can

search the old messages on the list for posts about honey and find some

good explanations for why honey is ok. Even so, some folks with very

severe yeast problems must restrict honey. After reading the old

posts, if you are still concerned that the honey would be a problem for

your child, try (as a first step) using half the amount of honey that a

recipe calls for.

, mom to

[Guest guest]

Thank again . I have already read about why honey is OK. I think my

confusion is just with how firm the pecanbread Intro diet suggestions are. I

kind of assumed that if it was OK for the Intro, it would be listed? This might

be a dumb question, but if everything is basically the same as the Intro diet in

BTVC except for dairy, then why not just use that book, simply eliminate dairy,

and refer to the BTVC website. I mean if it's just about the dairy, why

pecanbread? I guess I'm looking for a black and white diet plan in a diet that's

not black and white. Perhaps I am complicating things more than need be. I just

don't want to do all this hard work and restrict my families diet (even more

than it already is), then find out I am doing something wrong and it was all for

nothing. That's why I keep hounding everyone with my questions. FYI-I'm

really not a complete idiot...seriously. I just really want to get it right.

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[Guest guest]

, I understand your desire to do things right, so I will bow out

now and let a moderator answer your question. My personal opinion is

that honey slipped through the cracks when the webpage was made and

that the website is there to deal with common questions that parents

who start the diet have.

Best wishes as you start the diet,

, mom to

>

> Thank again . I have already read about why honey is OK. I think

my confusion is just with how firm the pecanbread Intro diet

suggestions are. I kind of assumed that if it was OK for the Intro, it

would be listed? This might be a dumb question, but if everything is

basically the same as the Intro diet in BTVC except for dairy, then why

not just use that book, simply eliminate dairy, and refer to the BTVC

website. I mean if it's just about the dairy, why pecanbread?

[Guest guest]

Thanks again . I hope I didn't offend you with my questions. I'm just

frustrated with myself b/c everyone seems to be able to effectively interpret

the diet but me. I certainly appreciate all of your answers and you are probably

right about honey slipping through the cracks. Thanks so much for taking the

time to respond. I truly appreciate it.

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julie46250 wrote:

, I understand your desire to do things right, so I will bow out

now and let a moderator answer your question. My personal opinion is

that honey slipped through the cracks when the webpage was made and

that the website is there to deal with common questions that parents

who start the diet have.

Best wishes as you start the diet,

, mom to

>

> Thank again . I have already read about why honey is OK. I think

my confusion is just with how firm the pecanbread Intro diet

suggestions are. I kind of assumed that if it was OK for the Intro, it

would be listed? This might be a dumb question, but if everything is

basically the same as the Intro diet in BTVC except for dairy, then why

not just use that book, simply eliminate dairy, and refer to the BTVC

website. I mean if it's just about the dairy, why pecanbread?

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

<<Thanks . So you can have honey even though it is not listed on

the pecanbread version of the intro diet?>>

A little honey is fine for the intro.

<<I know it is listed in BTCV, but thought it was different for ASD

kids. Will adding honey in the intro lessen the effect of killing all

the yeast and bacteria we're trying to get rid of?>>

If you have yeast you may want to at least reduce the amount of honey

that you would use. For example the intro diet uses honey in the

cheesecake if you have yeast issues you should probably reduce the

honey by least 75%.

Sheila, SCD Feb, 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

I am not offended in the least. You are perfectly right to try to get

it all straight.