NEW - NEED HELP w/food striker

[Guest guest]

Hello-

We are brand new to SCD, day 3 to be exact. I have two sons on the

autistic spectrum who initially responded well to GFCF, then regressed,

so after reading about SCD am anxious to give it a try. We started on

Sunday with the intro diet listed on pecanbread. One son (11 yrs old,

PDD-NOS)has done great, after some intial fussing and fit-throwing gave

in and has been eating the meats and diluted grape juice from the

intro. Today after 2 days of intro he went on to eat some of the ripe

banana.

My other son (9 yrs, Autism)however is a different story! And he is

where my concerns lie: He refused to eat anything until the evening of

the second day when he ate a small amount of roasted chicken and now

again has not eaten anything since. He refuses the diluted juices as

well(in any form: popsicles,jello,etc), so we have been making him take

some water throughout the day just to keep some kind of fluids going

in. He has been vomiting all day today and has huge dark circles under

both eyes to the point it looks like two black eyes. He is not running

fever, and no one else is sick, so I am pretty sure the vomiting is

related to the dietary changes. I have read the die-off symptoms and

realize this could be the cause. (But it also says vomiting is rare!)

We are not doing chelation or probiotics or any other intervention,

just the dietary change and I did take 2-3 weeks to try " weaning " them

off a lot of their typical sugar/starch foods. What do I do??? My son

literally looks like death!! He is used to drinking fruit punch type

drinks. Can I try giving him homemade lemonade with honey this early

on?? I know other children went days without eating, but were they at

least taking the fluids and not vomiting?? Any advice, suggestions, or

even just moral support would be SOOO appreciated! I am very worried

about him and do NOT want to end up in the hospital with dehydration

where I am sure the general consensus among the docs would be " his

crazy momma did this to him! "

Also, Regarding the suggested remedies on pecanbread we are trying the

epsom salt baths. I have not tried the charcoal capsules as I really

do not know how in the world I would get them in him???

Again any advice at all would be so very appreciated!

Thanks-

Sheri

mom to Cody,11yo PDD-NOS & ,9yo ASD

SCD 3 days

[Guest guest]

Sheri,

Welcome to the group. This does sound like die off symptoms. You can give him

some homemade lemonade(freshly squeezed lemon juice, water, and honey) to get

fluids in him. It is not uncommong for kids to refuse to eat when their diet is

completely changed, and there is no longer food available that will feed the

cravings of all of that yeast. You can buy activated charcoal in a powdered

form that has no other ingredients. Go to your local pharmacy, and ask them to

show you where it is on the shelf. They should carry capsule and powder forms.

While vomitting doesn't seem to be very common, it does happen as well. I would

not be alarmed at this point, but you do have to keep pushing the fluids in him.

He is technically past the intro diet now, so you can give him water, diluted

legal juice that are store bought, or home juiced juices. Keep us posted.

Meleah

iel 4yrs., ASD, SCD May, 2006

Ethan 6yrs., Mark 2yrs., baby due Oct. 07

NEW - NEED HELP w/food striker

Hello-

We are brand new to SCD, day 3 to be exact. I have two sons on the

autistic spectrum who initially responded well to GFCF, then regressed,

so after reading about SCD am anxious to give it a try. We started on

Sunday with the intro diet listed on pecanbread. One son (11 yrs old,

PDD-NOS)has done great, after some intial fussing and fit-throwing gave

in and has been eating the meats and diluted grape juice from the

intro. Today after 2 days of intro he went on to eat some of the ripe

banana.

My other son (9 yrs, Autism)however is a different story! And he is

where my concerns lie: He refused to eat anything until the evening of

the second day when he ate a small amount of roasted chicken and now

again has not eaten anything since. He refuses the diluted juices as

well(in any form: popsicles,jello,etc), so we have been making him take

some water throughout the day just to keep some kind of fluids going

in. He has been vomiting all day today and has huge dark circles under

both eyes to the point it looks like two black eyes. He is not running

fever, and no one else is sick, so I am pretty sure the vomiting is

related to the dietary changes. I have read the die-off symptoms and

realize this could be the cause. (But it also says vomiting is rare!)

We are not doing chelation or probiotics or any other intervention,

just the dietary change and I did take 2-3 weeks to try " weaning " them

off a lot of their typical sugar/starch foods. What do I do??? My son

literally looks like death!! He is used to drinking fruit punch type

drinks. Can I try giving him homemade lemonade with honey this early

on?? I know other children went days without eating, but were they at

least taking the fluids and not vomiting?? Any advice, suggestions, or

even just moral support would be SOOO appreciated! I am very worried

about him and do NOT want to end up in the hospital with dehydration

where I am sure the general consensus among the docs would be " his

crazy momma did this to him! "

Also, Regarding the suggested remedies on pecanbread we are trying the

epsom salt baths. I have not tried the charcoal capsules as I really

do not know how in the world I would get them in him???

Again any advice at all would be so very appreciated!

Thanks-

Sheri

mom to Cody,11yo PDD-NOS & ,9yo ASD

SCD 3 days

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheri. I just wanted to share that both myself and my son vomitted

during our recoveries (though at different periods of time). When it

happened to me I was very ill for about 18 hours. I threw up the most

horrible yeasty looking stuff. No one else got sick so I am pretty

sure it was die off related. When it happened to my son, he was just

very fatigued, threw up some yeasty looking stuff once or twice, and

then was fine.

K

Hashi's, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue

(mostly healed!!!)

kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

candida/yeast, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for a while, now back on SCD

1 month, today is DAY THREE of our intro diet

>

> Hello-

> We are brand new to SCD, day 3 to be exact. I have two sons on the

> autistic spectrum who initially responded well to GFCF, then regressed,

> so after reading about SCD am anxious to give it a try. We started on

> Sunday with the intro diet listed on pecanbread. One son (11 yrs old,

> PDD-NOS)has done great, after some intial fussing and fit-throwing gave

> in and has been eating the meats and diluted grape juice from the

> intro. Today after 2 days of intro he went on to eat some of the ripe

> banana.

> My other son (9 yrs, Autism)however is a different story! And he is

> where my concerns lie: He refused to eat anything until the evening of

> the second day when he ate a small amount of roasted chicken and now

> again has not eaten anything since. He refuses the diluted juices as

> well(in any form: popsicles,jello,etc), so we have been making him take

> some water throughout the day just to keep some kind of fluids going

> in. He has been vomiting all day today and has huge dark circles under

> both eyes to the point it looks like two black eyes. He is not running

> fever, and no one else is sick, so I am pretty sure the vomiting is

> related to the dietary changes. I have read the die-off symptoms and

> realize this could be the cause. (But it also says vomiting is rare!)

> We are not doing chelation or probiotics or any other intervention,

> just the dietary change and I did take 2-3 weeks to try " weaning " them

> off a lot of their typical sugar/starch foods. What do I do??? My son

> literally looks like death!! He is used to drinking fruit punch type

> drinks. Can I try giving him homemade lemonade with honey this early

> on?? I know other children went days without eating, but were they at

> least taking the fluids and not vomiting?? Any advice, suggestions, or

> even just moral support would be SOOO appreciated! I am very worried

> about him and do NOT want to end up in the hospital with dehydration

> where I am sure the general consensus among the docs would be " his

> crazy momma did this to him! "

> Also, Regarding the suggested remedies on pecanbread we are trying the

> epsom salt baths. I have not tried the charcoal capsules as I really

> do not know how in the world I would get them in him???

> Again any advice at all would be so very appreciated!

> Thanks-

>

> Sheri

> mom to Cody,11yo PDD-NOS & ,9yo ASD

> SCD 3 days

>

[Guest guest]

This sounds like my daughter's reaction. She vomited for three days, had the

dark circles under her eyes, etc. We were scared to death, but she started

getting better soon after that. Be encouraged; it won't last forever.

NEW - NEED HELP w/food striker

Hello-

We are brand new to SCD, day 3 to be exact. I have two sons on the

autistic spectrum who initially responded well to GFCF, then regressed,

so after reading about SCD am anxious to give it a try. We started on

Sunday with the intro diet listed on pecanbread. One son (11 yrs old,

PDD-NOS)has done great, after some intial fussing and fit-throwing gave

in and has been eating the meats and diluted grape juice from the

intro. Today after 2 days of intro he went on to eat some of the ripe

banana.

My other son (9 yrs, Autism)however is a different story! And he is

where my concerns lie: He refused to eat anything until the evening of

the second day when he ate a small amount of roasted chicken and now

again has not eaten anything since. He refuses the diluted juices as

well(in any form: popsicles,jello,etc), so we have been making him take

some water throughout the day just to keep some kind of fluids going

in. He has been vomiting all day today and has huge dark circles under

both eyes to the point it looks like two black eyes. He is not running

fever, and no one else is sick, so I am pretty sure the vomiting is

related to the dietary changes. I have read the die-off symptoms and

realize this could be the cause. (But it also says vomiting is rare!)

We are not doing chelation or probiotics or any other intervention,

just the dietary change and I did take 2-3 weeks to try " weaning " them

off a lot of their typical sugar/starch foods. What do I do??? My son

literally looks like death!! He is used to drinking fruit punch type

drinks. Can I try giving him homemade lemonade with honey this early

on?? I know other children went days without eating, but were they at

least taking the fluids and not vomiting?? Any advice, suggestions, or

even just moral support would be SOOO appreciated! I am very worried

about him and do NOT want to end up in the hospital with dehydration

where I am sure the general consensus among the docs would be " his

crazy momma did this to him! "

Also, Regarding the suggested remedies on pecanbread we are trying the

epsom salt baths. I have not tried the charcoal capsules as I really

do not know how in the world I would get them in him???

Again any advice at all would be so very appreciated!

Thanks-

Sheri

mom to Cody,11yo PDD-NOS & ,9yo ASD

SCD 3 days

[Guest guest]

I'd like to emphasize that I'm not an expert on this, so please listen to others

on the list who are more experienced, but I can share that for my 16-year-old

son who has autism, I started with a wide range of foods for him, did not follow

the exact intro stages, and still have had good results -- but that's just for

him. But I'm thinking if you are really worried about your son, why not try a

few of the slightly more advanced legal foods if he would find them appetizing?

The only food my son still can't handle without diarrhea is nut flour.

Surprisingly, he's fine with whole nuts that he chews, but not with nut flour.

I've gotten quite good at making substitute recipes of foods he likes with legal

ingredients. There are many appetizing recipes and so many different foods on

the legal lists. I hope you will be able to tempt your son to eat and drink. I

believe that even with my more gradual approach, my son still had die off,

mainly in the form of diarrhea and some

very odd yeasty looking stools. He's mainly over the die off now though, and

someday when we are both ready, I may do the intro diet with him just to see

what happens and whether we can make even more improvements. Good luck with it.

mother of Virya, age 16, autism and LKS

Kuykendall wrote:

Hi Sheri. I just wanted to share that both myself and my son vomitted

during our recoveries (though at different periods of time). When it

happened to me I was very ill for about 18 hours. I threw up the most

horrible yeasty looking stuff. No one else got sick so I am pretty

sure it was die off related. When it happened to my son, he was just

very fatigued, threw up some yeasty looking stuff once or twice, and

then was fine.

K

Hashi's, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue

(mostly healed!!!)

kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

candida/yeast, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for a while, now back on SCD

1 month, today is DAY THREE of our intro diet

>

> Hello-

> We are brand new to SCD, day 3 to be exact. I have two sons on the

> autistic spectrum who initially responded well to GFCF, then regressed,

> so after reading about SCD am anxious to give it a try. We started on

> Sunday with the intro diet listed on pecanbread. One son (11 yrs old,

> PDD-NOS)has done great, after some intial fussing and fit-throwing gave

> in and has been eating the meats and diluted grape juice from the

> intro. Today after 2 days of intro he went on to eat some of the ripe

> banana.

> My other son (9 yrs, Autism)however is a different story! And he is

> where my concerns lie: He refused to eat anything until the evening of

> the second day when he ate a small amount of roasted chicken and now

> again has not eaten anything since. He refuses the diluted juices as

> well(in any form: popsicles,jello,etc), so we have been making him take

> some water throughout the day just to keep some kind of fluids going

> in. He has been vomiting all day today and has huge dark circles under

> both eyes to the point it looks like two black eyes. He is not running

> fever, and no one else is sick, so I am pretty sure the vomiting is

> related to the dietary changes. I have read the die-off symptoms and

> realize this could be the cause. (But it also says vomiting is rare!)

> We are not doing chelation or probiotics or any other intervention,

> just the dietary change and I did take 2-3 weeks to try " weaning " them

> off a lot of their typical sugar/starch foods. What do I do??? My son

> literally looks like death!! He is used to drinking fruit punch type

> drinks. Can I try giving him homemade lemonade with honey this early

> on?? I know other children went days without eating, but were they at

> least taking the fluids and not vomiting?? Any advice, suggestions, or

> even just moral support would be SOOO appreciated! I am very worried

> about him and do NOT want to end up in the hospital with dehydration

> where I am sure the general consensus among the docs would be " his

> crazy momma did this to him! "

> Also, Regarding the suggested remedies on pecanbread we are trying the

> epsom salt baths. I have not tried the charcoal capsules as I really

> do not know how in the world I would get them in him???

> Again any advice at all would be so very appreciated!

> Thanks-

>

> Sheri

> mom to Cody,11yo PDD-NOS & ,9yo ASD

> SCD 3 days

>

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