Re: About Sperb!--Sperb's reply

[Guest guest]

Poor Philly Jude--pick, pick, pick, pick, pick!!!! LOL

Love,

me

>>> comic@... 12/11/00 10:53AM >>>

Trust me, Sperb

You don't want her to sing!!!!

Trude

Re: About Sperb!--Sperb's reply

Sperb,

Trust me, you don't want me to sing to you!!!

But, I will give you the gift of NOT singing, and wish the very best birthday

ever. Fondly, PhillyJude

[Guest guest]

Lynette,

My daughter's birthday is the day after Christmas. That day used to be so

anticlimactic before she was born. The presents were open. The adrenaline

was down. Now we just extend our celebrating !! I'll be thinking of you

and Jesus on your joint birthday.

Tarri in Missouri

MGB 09-29-00

329/275

Re: About Sperb!--Sperb's reply

> Happy belated birthday Sperb!! I am a christmas baby myself.... Hope you

> had a wonderful day......and many more to follow!

>

> Lynnette

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lynette,

My daughter's birthday is the day after Christmas. That day used to be so

anticlimactic before she was born. The presents were open. The adrenaline

was down. Now we just extend our celebrating !! I'll be thinking of you

and Jesus on your joint birthday.

Tarri in Missouri

MGB 09-29-00

329/275

Re: About Sperb!--Sperb's reply

> Happy belated birthday Sperb!! I am a christmas baby myself.... Hope you

> had a wonderful day......and many more to follow!

>

> Lynnette

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ditto.

T.

Re: About Sperb!--Sperb's reply

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR

SPERBBBBBBB, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUU, AND MANYYYYYYY MOOOOOOOORE!!!

GREAT!!!! THAT IS THE FIRST TIME NO ONE NOTICED THAT I CAN'T SING, I

think.....

:-)sbb

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:57:27 -0800 " Sperber "

writes:

> Thank you, Jen, for your kind and thoughtful post.

>

> I want to say this:

>

> I appreciate being able to come to this forum and express my

> concerns. This group is the ONLY group who can understand my

> situation. Everyone here knows what it's like to obsess about not

> losing enough weight. Other people do not. Everyone here knows

> what it means to be " lacking in will power " when others who are

> naturally thin don't understand how someone could " get so big. " And

> each person brings unique perspective.

>

> I welcome the varied responses. The wide range of these responses

> helps give me a framework within which to discover a balance. The

> reminder that better results will come with better food choices and

> exercise reminds me that I have more control over the situation than

> I may think. And, the thought that some people are different and

> may not have the scintillating results of others reminds me not to

> be too hard on myself.

>

> Because I tend to be obsessive and paranoid and feel that if

> something bad is going to happen, it will happen to me, the

> responses that have been the most encouraging to me are the ones

> reminding me to " give it time " and that I will " be okay in the end "

> and to " cross that bridge when I come to it. "

>

> For me, knowing that someone cares and understands is important.

> Please keep sharing--all of you--your experience and your hope. I'm

> sure that there will be things I won't like hearing (and yet may

> benefit from); things I think are insensitive; and things I think

> are useful, encouraging and wise. I want to hear you all. I need

> you all. Thank you for being there.

>

> Love,

> Sperb

> 11/9/2000

> 236/220/???

>

> P.S.---Today's my birthday, so I want you all to sing happy birthday

> to me!!!!! LOL!

>

>

>

> >>> ibcamille@... 11/30/00 05:27AM >>>

> Hi everyone,

> I really should be walking out the door to go to work, but I just

> felt

> compelled to

> respond to some of the things I've been reading on the list the last

> few

> weeks.

> Sperb had her surgery and since then has had concerns regarding the

> size of

> her stomach, the fact that she still has the same cravings etc as

> she did

> before the surgery. I guess what bothers me about this is that:

> Most of the responses I have seen, I think, have not be exactly

> understanding

> and

> compassionate. Not that anyone has been unkind, but think about it

> like this:

> We have all lived thru years of being told that we don't have enough

> will

> power, that there is something wrong with us if we want to be thin,

> but

> continue to eat and not exercise. We have always known we were

> different and

> that others who didn't have this problem really didn't understand

> us, nor did

> they have any real compassion for how it felt to be us. I feel like

> some MGB

> post-ops are now responding the same way to her. " this is only a

> tool " , " we

> still have to make wise choices " , " we need to exercise " . I think

> that what

> might be being overlooked is the fact that if that was all it took

> to make us

> thin and healthy, most post-ops would not be succeeding at this

> anymore than

> they did at regular diets. Isn't it possible that Sperb has gotten

> different

> results than most, maybe she will need a revision or something down

> the road?

> Maybe it is just as much of a struggle for her now, as it was for

> many

> post-ops BEFORE the surgery--- and what is she getting???? The same

> answers

> we have all gotten from the " thin world " for most of our lives. If

> it was all

> about choices, and exercise, and the surgery being a " tool " , none of

> us would

> have ever arrived at the place we are. Those things weren't enough.

> Ok, I feel better, Now i can get on with my day! We should have more

>

> understanding for each other.. I would expect that more from those

> who have

> never been in our shoes...

> Hang in there sperb, it will all work out!

> Jen

> Ft Wayne

>

>

[Guest guest]

ditto.

T.

Re: About Sperb!--Sperb's reply

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR

SPERBBBBBBB, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUU, AND MANYYYYYYY MOOOOOOOORE!!!

GREAT!!!! THAT IS THE FIRST TIME NO ONE NOTICED THAT I CAN'T SING, I

think.....

:-)sbb

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:57:27 -0800 " Sperber "

writes:

> Thank you, Jen, for your kind and thoughtful post.

>

> I want to say this:

>

> I appreciate being able to come to this forum and express my

> concerns. This group is the ONLY group who can understand my

> situation. Everyone here knows what it's like to obsess about not

> losing enough weight. Other people do not. Everyone here knows

> what it means to be " lacking in will power " when others who are

> naturally thin don't understand how someone could " get so big. " And

> each person brings unique perspective.

>

> I welcome the varied responses. The wide range of these responses

> helps give me a framework within which to discover a balance. The

> reminder that better results will come with better food choices and

> exercise reminds me that I have more control over the situation than

> I may think. And, the thought that some people are different and

> may not have the scintillating results of others reminds me not to

> be too hard on myself.

>

> Because I tend to be obsessive and paranoid and feel that if

> something bad is going to happen, it will happen to me, the

> responses that have been the most encouraging to me are the ones

> reminding me to " give it time " and that I will " be okay in the end "

> and to " cross that bridge when I come to it. "

>

> For me, knowing that someone cares and understands is important.

> Please keep sharing--all of you--your experience and your hope. I'm

> sure that there will be things I won't like hearing (and yet may

> benefit from); things I think are insensitive; and things I think

> are useful, encouraging and wise. I want to hear you all. I need

> you all. Thank you for being there.

>

> Love,

> Sperb

> 11/9/2000

> 236/220/???

>

> P.S.---Today's my birthday, so I want you all to sing happy birthday

> to me!!!!! LOL!

>

>

>

> >>> ibcamille@... 11/30/00 05:27AM >>>

> Hi everyone,

> I really should be walking out the door to go to work, but I just

> felt

> compelled to

> respond to some of the things I've been reading on the list the last

> few

> weeks.

> Sperb had her surgery and since then has had concerns regarding the

> size of

> her stomach, the fact that she still has the same cravings etc as

> she did

> before the surgery. I guess what bothers me about this is that:

> Most of the responses I have seen, I think, have not be exactly

> understanding

> and

> compassionate. Not that anyone has been unkind, but think about it

> like this:

> We have all lived thru years of being told that we don't have enough

> will

> power, that there is something wrong with us if we want to be thin,

> but

> continue to eat and not exercise. We have always known we were

> different and

> that others who didn't have this problem really didn't understand

> us, nor did

> they have any real compassion for how it felt to be us. I feel like

> some MGB

> post-ops are now responding the same way to her. " this is only a

> tool " , " we

> still have to make wise choices " , " we need to exercise " . I think

> that what

> might be being overlooked is the fact that if that was all it took

> to make us

> thin and healthy, most post-ops would not be succeeding at this

> anymore than

> they did at regular diets. Isn't it possible that Sperb has gotten

> different

> results than most, maybe she will need a revision or something down

> the road?

> Maybe it is just as much of a struggle for her now, as it was for

> many

> post-ops BEFORE the surgery--- and what is she getting???? The same

> answers

> we have all gotten from the " thin world " for most of our lives. If

> it was all

> about choices, and exercise, and the surgery being a " tool " , none of

> us would

> have ever arrived at the place we are. Those things weren't enough.

> Ok, I feel better, Now i can get on with my day! We should have more

>

> understanding for each other.. I would expect that more from those

> who have

> never been in our shoes...

> Hang in there sperb, it will all work out!

> Jen

> Ft Wayne

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're sooooo cute!

sperb

>>> comic@... 12/12/00 07:39AM >>>

ditto.

T.

Re: About Sperb!--Sperb's reply

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR

SPERBBBBBBB, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUU, AND MANYYYYYYY MOOOOOOOORE!!!

GREAT!!!! THAT IS THE FIRST TIME NO ONE NOTICED THAT I CAN'T SING, I

think.....

:-)sbb

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:57:27 -0800 " Sperber "

writes:

> Thank you, Jen, for your kind and thoughtful post.

>

> I want to say this:

>

> I appreciate being able to come to this forum and express my

> concerns. This group is the ONLY group who can understand my

> situation. Everyone here knows what it's like to obsess about not

> losing enough weight. Other people do not. Everyone here knows

> what it means to be " lacking in will power " when others who are

> naturally thin don't understand how someone could " get so big. " And

> each person brings unique perspective.

>

> I welcome the varied responses. The wide range of these responses

> helps give me a framework within which to discover a balance. The

> reminder that better results will come with better food choices and

> exercise reminds me that I have more control over the situation than

> I may think. And, the thought that some people are different and

> may not have the scintillating results of others reminds me not to

> be too hard on myself.

>

> Because I tend to be obsessive and paranoid and feel that if

> something bad is going to happen, it will happen to me, the

> responses that have been the most encouraging to me are the ones

> reminding me to " give it time " and that I will " be okay in the end "

> and to " cross that bridge when I come to it. "

>

> For me, knowing that someone cares and understands is important.

> Please keep sharing--all of you--your experience and your hope. I'm

> sure that there will be things I won't like hearing (and yet may

> benefit from); things I think are insensitive; and things I think

> are useful, encouraging and wise. I want to hear you all. I need

> you all. Thank you for being there.

>

> Love,

> Sperb

> 11/9/2000

> 236/220/???

>

> P.S.---Today's my birthday, so I want you all to sing happy birthday

> to me!!!!! LOL!

>

>

>

> >>> ibcamille@... 11/30/00 05:27AM >>>

> Hi everyone,

> I really should be walking out the door to go to work, but I just

> felt

> compelled to

> respond to some of the things I've been reading on the list the last

> few

> weeks.

> Sperb had her surgery and since then has had concerns regarding the

> size of

> her stomach, the fact that she still has the same cravings etc as

> she did

> before the surgery. I guess what bothers me about this is that:

> Most of the responses I have seen, I think, have not be exactly

> understanding

> and

> compassionate. Not that anyone has been unkind, but think about it

> like this:

> We have all lived thru years of being told that we don't have enough

> will

> power, that there is something wrong with us if we want to be thin,

> but

> continue to eat and not exercise. We have always known we were

> different and

> that others who didn't have this problem really didn't understand

> us, nor did

> they have any real compassion for how it felt to be us. I feel like

> some MGB

> post-ops are now responding the same way to her. " this is only a

> tool " , " we

> still have to make wise choices " , " we need to exercise " . I think

> that what

> might be being overlooked is the fact that if that was all it took

> to make us

> thin and healthy, most post-ops would not be succeeding at this

> anymore than

> they did at regular diets. Isn't it possible that Sperb has gotten

> different

> results than most, maybe she will need a revision or something down

> the road?

> Maybe it is just as much of a struggle for her now, as it was for

> many

> post-ops BEFORE the surgery--- and what is she getting???? The same

> answers

> we have all gotten from the " thin world " for most of our lives. If

> it was all

> about choices, and exercise, and the surgery being a " tool " , none of

> us would

> have ever arrived at the place we are. Those things weren't enough.

> Ok, I feel better, Now i can get on with my day! We should have more

>

> understanding for each other.. I would expect that more from those

> who have

> never been in our shoes...

> Hang in there sperb, it will all work out!

> Jen

> Ft Wayne

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're sooooo cute!

sperb

>>> comic@... 12/12/00 07:39AM >>>

ditto.

T.

Re: About Sperb!--Sperb's reply

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR

SPERBBBBBBB, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUU, AND MANYYYYYYY MOOOOOOOORE!!!

GREAT!!!! THAT IS THE FIRST TIME NO ONE NOTICED THAT I CAN'T SING, I

think.....

:-)sbb

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:57:27 -0800 " Sperber "

writes:

> Thank you, Jen, for your kind and thoughtful post.

>

> I want to say this:

>

> I appreciate being able to come to this forum and express my

> concerns. This group is the ONLY group who can understand my

> situation. Everyone here knows what it's like to obsess about not

> losing enough weight. Other people do not. Everyone here knows

> what it means to be " lacking in will power " when others who are

> naturally thin don't understand how someone could " get so big. " And

> each person brings unique perspective.

>

> I welcome the varied responses. The wide range of these responses

> helps give me a framework within which to discover a balance. The

> reminder that better results will come with better food choices and

> exercise reminds me that I have more control over the situation than

> I may think. And, the thought that some people are different and

> may not have the scintillating results of others reminds me not to

> be too hard on myself.

>

> Because I tend to be obsessive and paranoid and feel that if

> something bad is going to happen, it will happen to me, the

> responses that have been the most encouraging to me are the ones

> reminding me to " give it time " and that I will " be okay in the end "

> and to " cross that bridge when I come to it. "

>

> For me, knowing that someone cares and understands is important.

> Please keep sharing--all of you--your experience and your hope. I'm

> sure that there will be things I won't like hearing (and yet may

> benefit from); things I think are insensitive; and things I think

> are useful, encouraging and wise. I want to hear you all. I need

> you all. Thank you for being there.

>

> Love,

> Sperb

> 11/9/2000

> 236/220/???

>

> P.S.---Today's my birthday, so I want you all to sing happy birthday

> to me!!!!! LOL!

>

>

>

> >>> ibcamille@... 11/30/00 05:27AM >>>

> Hi everyone,

> I really should be walking out the door to go to work, but I just

> felt

> compelled to

> respond to some of the things I've been reading on the list the last

> few

> weeks.

> Sperb had her surgery and since then has had concerns regarding the

> size of

> her stomach, the fact that she still has the same cravings etc as

> she did

> before the surgery. I guess what bothers me about this is that:

> Most of the responses I have seen, I think, have not be exactly

> understanding

> and

> compassionate. Not that anyone has been unkind, but think about it

> like this:

> We have all lived thru years of being told that we don't have enough

> will

> power, that there is something wrong with us if we want to be thin,

> but

> continue to eat and not exercise. We have always known we were

> different and

> that others who didn't have this problem really didn't understand

> us, nor did

> they have any real compassion for how it felt to be us. I feel like

> some MGB

> post-ops are now responding the same way to her. " this is only a

> tool " , " we

> still have to make wise choices " , " we need to exercise " . I think

> that what

> might be being overlooked is the fact that if that was all it took

> to make us

> thin and healthy, most post-ops would not be succeeding at this

> anymore than

> they did at regular diets. Isn't it possible that Sperb has gotten

> different

> results than most, maybe she will need a revision or something down

> the road?

> Maybe it is just as much of a struggle for her now, as it was for

> many

> post-ops BEFORE the surgery--- and what is she getting???? The same

> answers

> we have all gotten from the " thin world " for most of our lives. If

> it was all

> about choices, and exercise, and the surgery being a " tool " , none of

> us would

> have ever arrived at the place we are. Those things weren't enough.

> Ok, I feel better, Now i can get on with my day! We should have more

>

> understanding for each other.. I would expect that more from those

> who have

> never been in our shoes...

> Hang in there sperb, it will all work out!

> Jen

> Ft Wayne

>

>