Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 I've been reading the posts for a couple of months now. This is my first post. My son was diagonosed PDD NOS Sept 06. He'll be 4 this Sept. He's been Gluten/Dairy Free for 9 months. Started SCD end of April. Saw Dr. Krigsman middle of May and stool labs show elevated lactoferrin indicating inflammatory bowel disease. He is recommending a diagnostic upper and lower endoscopy / colonoscopy. My son vomited last Saturday from late afternoon thru evening (about 8 or 9 times), was tired and not to hungry the next day and seemed fine the rest of the week. Here it is Saturday a week later and about the same time we're repeating last Saturday. These are the first times vomiting since starting SCD. He used to vomit once a week like clockwork for about the 2 months prior to starting any special diets. I'm trying to reread Elaine's book trying to find a reference I think I remember refering to something of this nature. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks for your hep. Kathy son, SCD 10 weeks, GFCS 9 months, PDD NOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Hi Kathy, <<My son vomited last Saturday from late afternoon thru evening (about 8 or 9 times), was tired and not to hungry the next day and seemed fine the rest of the week. Here it is Saturday a week later and about the same time we're repeating last Saturday. These are the first times vomiting since starting SCD. He used to vomit once a week like clockwork for about the 2 months prior to starting any special diets. I'm trying to reread Elaine's book trying to find a reference I think I remember refering to something of this nature. Any input would be appreciated. > Thanks for your hep. > Kathy > son, SCD 10 weeks, GFCS 9 months, PDD NOS>> It is possible that he is going through the 3 month flare (which mostly refers to a regular flare up of microbes, not necessarily at three months; could be at 2 mos, 4 mos etc..) Does he vomit on the same day; is there some place or activity he is doing before these episodes occur? Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Hi Sheila, Could it be the flare up? Why would he only be vomiting on Saturdays. He has vomited the past 2 Saturdays around late afternoon each time. On both occasions we were just hanging out. He is doing more screeching than normal. I guess it is a good idea to start the intro diet again? Thanks, Kathy son, SCD 10weeks, gfcf 9month, PDD -------------- Original message from " Sheila Trenholm " : -------------- Hi Kathy, <<My son vomited last Saturday from late afternoon thru evening (about 8 or 9 times), was tired and not to hungry the next day and seemed fine the rest of the week. Here it is Saturday a week later and about the same time we're repeating last Saturday. These are the first times vomiting since starting SCD. He used to vomit once a week like clockwork for about the 2 months prior to starting any special diets. I'm trying to reread Elaine's book trying to find a reference I think I remember refering to something of this nature. Any input would be appreciated. > Thanks for your hep. > Kathy > son, SCD 10 weeks, GFCS 9 months, PDD NOS>> It is possible that he is going through the 3 month flare (which mostly refers to a regular flare up of microbes, not necessarily at three months; could be at 2 mos, 4 mos etc..) Does he vomit on the same day; is there some place or activity he is doing before these episodes occur? Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Sheila, Can you explain the microbe flare? Does this mean the heartier of the microbes are able to survive on the later stage foods and they start to flourish? - Sheila Trenholm wrote: Hi Kathy, <<My son vomited last Saturday from late afternoon thru evening (about 8 or 9 times), was tired and not to hungry the next day and seemed fine the rest of the week. Here it is Saturday a week later and about the same time we're repeating last Saturday. These are the first times vomiting since starting SCD. He used to vomit once a week like clockwork for about the 2 months prior to starting any special diets. I'm trying to reread Elaine's book trying to find a reference I think I remember refering to something of this nature. Any input would be appreciated. > Thanks for your hep. > Kathy > son, SCD 10 weeks, GFCS 9 months, PDD NOS>> It is possible that he is going through the 3 month flare (which mostly refers to a regular flare up of microbes, not necessarily at three months; could be at 2 mos, 4 mos etc..) Does he vomit on the same day; is there some place or activity he is doing before these episodes occur? Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Hi Kathy, << Could it be the flare up? Why would he only be vomiting on Saturdays.>> It could be something cyclic (?). Have you changed anything in his environment lately - new carpets etc..? <<He has vomited the past 2 Saturdays around late afternoon each time. On both occasions we were just hanging out. He is doing more screeching than normal.>> " screeching " ? Do you mean crying? <<I guess it is a good idea to start the intro diet again?>> It may help eliminate possible problems. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and > Thanks, > Kathy > son, SCD 10weeks, gfcf 9month, PDD > > -------------- Original message from " Sheila Trenholm " : -------------- > > Hi Kathy, > > <<My son vomited last Saturday from late afternoon thru evening > (about 8 or 9 times), was tired and not to hungry the next day and > seemed fine the rest of the week. Here it is Saturday a week later > and about the same time we're repeating last Saturday. These are the > first times vomiting since starting SCD. He used to vomit once a > week like clockwork for about the 2 months prior to starting any > special diets. I'm trying to reread Elaine's book trying to find a > reference I think I remember refering to something of this nature. > Any input would be appreciated. > > Thanks for your hep. > > Kathy > > son, SCD 10 weeks, GFCS 9 months, PDD NOS>> > > It is possible that he is going through the 3 month flare (which > mostly refers to a regular flare up of microbes, not necessarily at > three months; could be at 2 mos, 4 mos etc..) > > Does he vomit on the same day; is there some place or activity he is > doing before these episodes occur? > > Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs > mom of and > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Hi , <<Sheila, Can you explain the microbe flare? Does this mean the heartier of the microbes are able to survive on the later stage foods and they start to flourish? >> Not quite. Elaine wasn't sure but it may be caused by some microbes that survive in the biofilm becoming active and multiplying . It might be from sporeformers that have been in the spore stage and are now going through a reproductive phase. It could be some hardy microbes that are existing at low numbers and for some reason (?) they go through a surge of growth. The foods eaten play a part- not depending on the stage of the food but on the digestability of the host. Namely if you aren't able to digest it these microbes will. In other words , if the conditions are right the microbes will increase. Going a bit more basic (or intro) should starve them out in most cases. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 We have not had any changes in our environment. Maybe it's more like whining. I feel bad because I know he wants to tell me what's wrong but can't. We are traveling to Florida on Sunday for his appointment with Dr. Levinson (DAN Dr.) on Monday. Maybe he'll have some input. Thanks! Kathy son 4yrs, PDD-NOS, SCD 11 weeks, GFCF 9 months -------------- Original message from " Sheila Trenholm " : -------------- Hi Kathy, << Could it be the flare up? Why would he only be vomiting on Saturdays.>> It could be something cyclic (?). Have you changed anything in his environment lately - new carpets etc..? <<He has vomited the past 2 Saturdays around late afternoon each time. On both occasions we were just hanging out. He is doing more screeching than normal.>> " screeching " ? Do you mean crying? <<I guess it is a good idea to start the intro diet again?>> It may help eliminate possible problems. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and > Thanks, > Kathy > son, SCD 10weeks, gfcf 9month, PDD > > -------------- Original message from " Sheila Trenholm " : -------------- > > Hi Kathy, > > <<My son vomited last Saturday from late afternoon thru evening > (about 8 or 9 times), was tired and not to hungry the next day and > seemed fine the rest of the week. Here it is Saturday a week later > and about the same time we're repeating last Saturday. These are the > first times vomiting since starting SCD. He used to vomit once a > week like clockwork for about the 2 months prior to starting any > special diets. I'm trying to reread Elaine's book trying to find a > reference I think I remember refering to something of this nature. > Any input would be appreciated. > > Thanks for your hep. > > Kathy > > son, SCD 10 weeks, GFCS 9 months, PDD NOS>> > > It is possible that he is going through the 3 month flare (which > mostly refers to a regular flare up of microbes, not necessarily at > three months; could be at 2 mos, 4 mos etc..) > > Does he vomit on the same day; is there some place or activity he is > doing before these episodes occur? > > Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs > mom of and > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I'll go back to the intro & see what happens. Thanks You! Kathy son, 4yrs, PDD-NOS, SCD, 11 weeks, GF/CF 9 months -------------- Original message from " Sheila Trenholm " : -------------- Hi , <<Sheila, Can you explain the microbe flare? Does this mean the heartier of the microbes are able to survive on the later stage foods and they start to flourish? >> Not quite. Elaine wasn't sure but it may be caused by some microbes that survive in the biofilm becoming active and multiplying . It might be from sporeformers that have been in the spore stage and are now going through a reproductive phase. It could be some hardy microbes that are existing at low numbers and for some reason (?) they go through a surge of growth. The foods eaten play a part- not depending on the stage of the food but on the digestability of the host. Namely if you aren't able to digest it these microbes will. In other words , if the conditions are right the microbes will increase. Going a bit more basic (or intro) should starve them out in most cases. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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