Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 We are currently struggling with making it out of the intro phase. My son's stools were doing well, but we hit a snag and something has caused the really smelly loose stools to come back. Foods that we have added are butternut squash, small zucchini (peeled, deseeded), ripe banana,and green beans. I know for a fact that he had good stools for several days after the introduction of both squash and banana. I have taken out the green beans because I thought it was those, but something is still making the stools really smelly and loose. The day before his bad poop returned, I had introduced green beans, he also had carrot chips that day (fried). He also had 2 bananas that day (previously we had been limiting it to one a day). Since I took the green beans out and haven't seen improvement, I am wondering if it is the method of food prep that could be giving us problems. Is it possible that the fried carrots could have triggered the return of loose smelly stools? I've gone back to only well cooked pureed carrots, but we still are having an issue. Could it now maybe be the squash fries (baked in the oven with lots of oil)???? He hasn't ever had any problems digesting oils/fats/butter etc, but does something about the frying process make it harder for foods to be digested? Or maybe it was the banana and it just took a while for it to be a problem? I didn't notice any change after the zucchini either, but now I'm doubting everything. Ugghh. Any advice would really help. I have no idea what to plan for next week's meals...... What is really making this hard is that my son (who used to poop once a day) is now pooping about every day and a half-two days, so it is not as easy to connect what he has eaten with the stool issues. K in Dayton, Ohio Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!) Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of June 2007 and are taking it SLOW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Hi << We are currently struggling with making it out of the intro phase. My> son's stools were doing well, but we hit a snag and something has > caused the really smelly loose stools to come back. Foods that we have> added are butternut squash, small zucchini (peeled, deseeded), ripe> banana,and green beans. I know for a fact that he had good stools for> several days after the introduction of both squash and banana. I have> taken out the green beans because I thought it was those, but> something is still making the stools really smelly and loose. The day> before his bad poop returned, I had introduced green beans, he also> had carrot chips that day (fried). He also had 2 bananas that day> (previously we had been limiting it to one a day). Since I took the> green beans out and haven't seen improvement, I am wondering if it is> the method of food prep that could be giving us problems. Is it> possible that the fried carrots could have triggered the return of> loose smelly stools? I've gone back to only well cooked pureed> carrots, but we still are having an issue. Could it now maybe be the> squash fries (baked in the oven with lots of oil)???? He hasn't ever> had any problems digesting oils/fats/butter etc, but does something> about the frying process make it harder for foods to be digested? Or > maybe it was the banana and it just took a while for it to be a > problem? I didn't notice any change after the zucchini either, but now> I'm doubting everything. Ugghh. Any advice would really help. I have> no idea what to plan for next week's meals...... What is really making> this hard is that my son (who used to poop once a day) is now pooping> about every day and a half-two days, so it is not as easy to connect> what he has eaten with the stool issues. >> Fats can be harder to digest and the fried carrot chips may have fed some hardy microbes that were still 'hanging about'. If you remove the bananas for a day or two(keeping out the beans and carrot chips but including steamed or boiled/baked mashed squash and cooked pureed carrots) and then retry them he may be fine. If this doesn't clear things out try the intro for a day or two to clear things up . It may be best to wait a while longer before trying green beans again. Some kids do great with them and for others it is an issue until more healing occurs. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Thanks Sheila. We sure are getting tired of mashed carrots and squash around here, LOL!!! I will keep the green beans out for awhile and try taking out the banana for a few days. I keep trying to follow the recommended stages on pecanbread, but there isn't much in stage two that is very substantial as far as carb content goes. I'm also afraid to try anything stage two given our poor success with stage one fruits. (homemade pear sauce also caused a return of loose stools). Once normal poops return, should I be trying to add in more veggies and just skip fruits for a while? Or should I wait for stage one fruits to be tolerated before moving onto stage two stuff? It isn't healthy to eat so few food choices for so long is it? How long can we stay on nothing but meat, eggs, fat/butter/oils, winter squash, carrots, and zucchini? It has been 3 weeks now. :-( I hope the banana turns out okay for him and we will be able to at least add that back. K in Dayton, Ohio Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!) Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of June 2007 and are taking it SLOW) > Fats can be harder to digest and the fried carrot chips may have fed > some hardy microbes that were still 'hanging about'. > If you remove the bananas for a day or two(keeping out the beans and > carrot chips but including steamed or boiled/baked mashed squash and > cooked pureed carrots) and then retry them he may be fine. If this > doesn't clear things out try the intro for a day or two to clear > things up . It may be best to wait a while longer before trying > green beans again. Some kids do great with them and for others it is > an issue until more healing occurs. > > Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs > mom of and > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Hi there, My first thought: Carrots unless cooked soft are all an advanced food. Others might see other errors....but this is the only one I caught. You might want to revisit intro for two days if you can not get this under control My second thought: My daughter would unexplainably go into " flares " where her poop would stink truly awful and would fall back into diarrhea. For her it was pancreatic insufficiency more than the advanced foods. We just recently found this out after eating SCD for over a year. SCD was A God send...but I was always baffled at why we could never feed her more advanced foods. THIS WAS WHY. She was not able to digest them well and they would ferment (allowed carbs on SCD) or putrefy (proteins and fats/turning into bad gut bugs that SCD can not starve out)...and keep the vicious cycle going. Obviously not as bad as when she ate starches and sugars, so we where not going to stop SCD......but consistently so. She is now on prescription strength enzymes. Her GI doctor says that he sees this problem often with autistic kids. They do not know why. Antoinette and family of Five Silly Yaks (SCD 2/06) (List of family problems we cam with: IBD, IBS, CD, Malabsorption, Candida, Bad Gut Flora, Leaky Gut, Food Intolerances, Allergies, Heavy Metals, ADHD, Autism/PDD, Seizures, Sensory Integration Dysfunction, Mental Illness, Slow Growth, Hyperekplexia and more....SCD has helped all of us!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Antoinette, Our pancreatic tests are suposed to be back next month. I'm hoping they also give us answers & a treatment. How do the enzymes taste? Are they hard to get in & how often do they need to be given? - Bunce wrote: Hi there, My first thought: Carrots unless cooked soft are all an advanced food. Others might see other errors....but this is the only one I caught. You might want to revisit intro for two days if you can not get this under control My second thought: My daughter would unexplainably go into " flares " where her poop would stink truly awful and would fall back into diarrhea. For her it was pancreatic insufficiency more than the advanced foods. We just recently found this out after eating SCD for over a year. SCD was A God send...but I was always baffled at why we could never feed her more advanced foods. THIS WAS WHY. She was not able to digest them well and they would ferment (allowed carbs on SCD) or putrefy (proteins and fats/turning into bad gut bugs that SCD can not starve out)...and keep the vicious cycle going. Obviously not as bad as when she ate starches and sugars, so we where not going to stop SCD......but consistently so. She is now on prescription strength enzymes. Her GI doctor says that he sees this problem often with autistic kids. They do not know why. Antoinette and family of Five Silly Yaks (SCD 2/06) (List of family problems we cam with: IBD, IBS, CD, Malabsorption, Candida, Bad Gut Flora, Leaky Gut, Food Intolerances, Allergies, Heavy Metals, ADHD, Autism/PDD, Seizures, Sensory Integration Dysfunction, Mental Illness, Slow Growth, Hyperekplexia and more....SCD has helped all of us!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Thanks for your thoughts Antoinette. My son takes a huge amount of digestive enzymes right now just to get us where we are at. (We use Houston AFp peptizyde and zyme prime). I wonder if prescription strenght would work even better for him. How did you go about testing your daughter for pancreatic insufficiency? We are currently not seeing a doctor and I think most that we could afford (ie on our insurance) would think we were starving our kids to death on this diet. K in Dayton, Ohio Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!) Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of June 2007 and are taking it SLOW) > > Hi there, > > My first thought: Carrots unless cooked soft are all an advanced food. Others might see other errors....but this is the only one I caught. You might want to revisit intro for two days if you can not get this under control > > My second thought: My daughter would unexplainably go into " flares " where her poop would stink truly awful and would fall back into diarrhea. For her it was pancreatic insufficiency more than the advanced foods. We just recently found this out after eating SCD for over a year. SCD was A God send...but I was always baffled at why we could never feed her more advanced foods. THIS WAS WHY. She was not able to digest them well and they would ferment (allowed carbs on SCD) or putrefy (proteins and fats/turning into bad gut bugs that SCD can not starve out)...and keep the vicious cycle going. Obviously not as bad as when she ate starches and sugars, so we where not going to stop SCD......but consistently so. > > She is now on prescription strength enzymes. Her GI doctor says that he sees this problem often with autistic kids. They do not know why. > > > Antoinette and family of Five Silly Yaks (SCD 2/06) > > (List of family problems we cam with: IBD, IBS, CD, Malabsorption, Candida, Bad Gut Flora, Leaky Gut, Food Intolerances, Allergies, Heavy Metals, ADHD, Autism/PDD, Seizures, Sensory Integration Dysfunction, Mental Illness, Slow Growth, Hyperekplexia and more....SCD has helped all of us!) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 You said when I had started SCD how you guys used enzymes for a year and then realized that they were not helping after all. I am wondering, knowing now what you have found out about pancreatic insufficiency and such from Antoinette, can you look back and say definitively that the enzymes didn't help or did help or does it just make you more unsure? Could it have been that you guys just needed such a huge amount of digestive enzymes because of a an insufficiency like that? I'm curious as we are new at this and my son can't hardly tolerate anything (behavior being the issue and not bm's). I too have to figure out how I will go about getting the right tests and to the right doctor to get the enzymes or present it correctly to the pediatrician and help there. We live in " Podunkville " as far as the medical field is concerned. I don't have the experience that you guys have with SCD for a year and a redo of the intro. So, there's nothing I can look back on to judge things. What is your opinion? Bonita > > > > Hi there, > > > > My first thought: Carrots unless cooked soft are all an advanced > food. Others might see other errors....but this is the only one I > caught. You might want to revisit intro for two days if you can not > get this under control > > > > My second thought: My daughter would unexplainably go into " flares " > where her poop would stink truly awful and would fall back into > diarrhea. For her it was pancreatic insufficiency more than the > advanced foods. We just recently found this out after eating SCD for > over a year. SCD was A God send...but I was always baffled at why we > could never feed her more advanced foods. THIS WAS WHY. She was not > able to digest them well and they would ferment (allowed carbs on SCD) > or putrefy (proteins and fats/turning into bad gut bugs that SCD can > not starve out)...and keep the vicious cycle going. Obviously not as > bad as when she ate starches and sugars, so we where not going to stop > SCD......but consistently so. > > > > She is now on prescription strength enzymes. Her GI doctor says > that he sees this problem often with autistic kids. They do not know > why. > > > > > > Antoinette and family of Five Silly Yaks (SCD 2/06) > > > > (List of family problems we cam with: IBD, IBS, CD, Malabsorption, > Candida, Bad Gut Flora, Leaky Gut, Food Intolerances, Allergies, Heavy > Metals, ADHD, Autism/PDD, Seizures, Sensory Integration Dysfunction, > Mental Illness, Slow Growth, Hyperekplexia and more....SCD has helped > all of us!) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 here again, we had our GI doctor do the testing. She ran the following at no cost to us: calprotectin, pancreatic sufficiency, stool for fat and stool for reducing substances. She also ran pathology labs on the stools themselves. These were all done in-network. - Kuykendall wrote: Thanks for your thoughts Antoinette. My son takes a huge amount of digestive enzymes right now just to get us where we are at. (We use Houston AFp peptizyde and zyme prime). I wonder if prescription strenght would work even better for him. How did you go about testing your daughter for pancreatic insufficiency? We are currently not seeing a doctor and I think most that we could afford (ie on our insurance) would think we were starving our kids to death on this diet. K in Dayton, Ohio Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!) Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of June 2007 and are taking it SLOW) > > Hi there, > > My first thought: Carrots unless cooked soft are all an advanced food. Others might see other errors....but this is the only one I caught. You might want to revisit intro for two days if you can not get this under control > > My second thought: My daughter would unexplainably go into " flares " where her poop would stink truly awful and would fall back into diarrhea. For her it was pancreatic insufficiency more than the advanced foods. We just recently found this out after eating SCD for over a year. SCD was A God send...but I was always baffled at why we could never feed her more advanced foods. THIS WAS WHY. She was not able to digest them well and they would ferment (allowed carbs on SCD) or putrefy (proteins and fats/turning into bad gut bugs that SCD can not starve out)...and keep the vicious cycle going. Obviously not as bad as when she ate starches and sugars, so we where not going to stop SCD......but consistently so. > > She is now on prescription strength enzymes. Her GI doctor says that he sees this problem often with autistic kids. They do not know why. > > > Antoinette and family of Five Silly Yaks (SCD 2/06) > > (List of family problems we cam with: IBD, IBS, CD, Malabsorption, Candida, Bad Gut Flora, Leaky Gut, Food Intolerances, Allergies, Heavy Metals, ADHD, Autism/PDD, Seizures, Sensory Integration Dysfunction, Mental Illness, Slow Growth, Hyperekplexia and more....SCD has helped all of us!) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 When I said the enzymes didn't work for him over that year, I meant not enough to go off of SCD like we did. We added in oatmeal, quinoa, rice etc etc. The enzymes did help him to stop having undigested food in his stool, but they remained loose and I felt like they just weren't working enough for him. I did feel that upping the amount might help but at the time I just couldn't afford more enzymes. That is one of the reasons we went back on SCD (that and my hope to fix the salicylate issue that is driving us all insane). After talking to Dr. Houston of Houston enzymes, he suggested that I up the amount of zyme prime he was taking (the carb specific one) and we were finally able to afford that somewhat and it did help firm up his poop a little more, but that was also in combination with doing the intro diet and SCD yogurt. So while I feel like enzymes were a help to us (and especially helped me to heal and have more energy), I think my son would have to take a bottle of zyme prime a day to properly break down his foods. I am now afraid that we will never make it off the intro diet. What seems crazy to me is that my son is not autistic and does not have a lot of the issues that most kids on this spectrum seem to have. He is ADHD with a serious salicylate issue and the chronic diarrhea, that is it. So I find it odd that his digestion issues are so severe without his mental issues being equally as severe. I wish we had a local doctor that was well versed in SCD that could help us navigate through this and figure out what he needs to be able to eat a healthy varied diet. K in Dayton, Ohio Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue(mostly healed!!!) Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of June 2007 and are struggling to find tolerated foods) > > > > You said when I had started SCD how you guys used enzymes for a year > and then realized that they were not helping after all. I am > wondering, knowing now what you have found out about pancreatic > insufficiency and such from Antoinette, can you look back and say > definitively that the enzymes didn't help or did help or does it > just make you more unsure? Could it have been that you guys just > needed such a huge amount of digestive enzymes because of a an > insufficiency like that? I'm curious as we are new at this and my > son can't hardly tolerate anything (behavior being the issue and not > bm's). I too have to figure out how I will go about getting the > right tests and to the right doctor to get the enzymes or present it > correctly to the pediatrician and help there. We live > in " Podunkville " as far as the medical field is concerned. I don't > have the experience that you guys have with SCD for a year and a > redo of the intro. So, there's nothing I can look back on to judge > things. What is your opinion? > > Bonita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Thanks for the clarification. My Aspie self finds it hard to read between the lines sometimes. Sorry for all your trouble. Hope it works out for you. We would love to find a good doctor for my son who is versed in the dietary interventions, but there is no on in hundrends of miles of here. I'll have to go slowly and convince his pediatrician and then there will be at least one sympethetic doc in town. My husband is beginning to hate the word salicylate. It is such a horrible issue here also. They add to my son's spaciness, odd behaviors, hyperactivity and tics (really bad). Bonita Re:Need Help Finding Problem When I said the enzymes didn't work for him over that year, I meant not enough to go off of SCD like we did. We added in oatmeal, quinoa, rice etc etc. The enzymes did help him to stop having undigested food in his stool, but they remained loose and I felt like they just weren't working enough for him. I did feel that upping the amount might help but at the time I just couldn't afford more enzymes. That is one of the reasons we went back on SCD (that and my hope to fix the salicylate issue that is driving us all insane). After talking to Dr. Houston of Houston enzymes, he suggested that I up the amount of zyme prime he was taking (the carb specific one) and we were finally able to afford that somewhat and it did help firm up his poop a little more, but that was also in combination with doing the intro diet and SCD yogurt. So while I feel like enzymes were a help to us (and especially helped me to heal and have more energy), I think my son would have to take a bottle of zyme prime a day to properly break down his foods. I am now afraid that we will never make it off the intro diet. What seems crazy to me is that my son is not autistic and does not have a lot of the issues that most kids on this spectrum seem to have. He is ADHD with a serious salicylate issue and the chronic diarrhea, that is it. So I find it odd that his digestion issues are so severe without his mental issues being equally as severe. I wish we had a local doctor that was well versed in SCD that could help us navigate through this and figure out what he needs to be able to eat a healthy varied diet. K in Dayton, Ohio Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue(mostly healed!!!) Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of June 2007 and are struggling to find tolerated foods) > > > > You said when I had started SCD how you guys used enzymes for a year > and then realized that they were not helping after all. I am > wondering, knowing now what you have found out about pancreatic > insufficiency and such from Antoinette, can you look back and say > definitively that the enzymes didn't help or did help or does it > just make you more unsure? Could it have been that you guys just > needed such a huge amount of digestive enzymes because of a an > insufficiency like that? I'm curious as we are new at this and my > son can't hardly tolerate anything (behavior being the issue and not > bm's). I too have to figure out how I will go about getting the > right tests and to the right doctor to get the enzymes or present it > correctly to the pediatrician and help there. We live > in " Podunkville " as far as the medical field is concerned. I don't > have the experience that you guys have with SCD for a year and a > redo of the intro. So, there's nothing I can look back on to judge > things. What is your opinion? > > Bonita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 > I don't > > have the experience that you guys have with SCD for a year and a > > redo of the intro. So, there's nothing I can look back on to judge > > things. What is your opinion? > > > > Bonita > > > I forgot to mention, but although I've been attempting this SCD thing for a year off and on, I still feel like a fumbling newbie. I feel like I'm just winging things here, trying to find what works. K in Dayton, Ohio Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue(mostly healed!!!) Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of June 2007 and are struggling to find tolerated foods) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 > > > > Thanks for the clarification. My Aspie self finds it hard to read between the lines sometimes. Sorry for all your trouble. Hope it works out for you. We would love to find a good doctor for my son who is versed in the dietary interventions, but there is no on in hundrends of miles of here. I'll have to go slowly and convince his pediatrician and then there will be at least one sympethetic doc in town. My husband is beginning to hate the word salicylate. It is such a horrible issue here also. They add to my son's spaciness, odd behaviors, hyperactivity and tics (really bad). > > Bonita I had to laugh at this, " My Aspie self finds it hard to read between the lines sometimes. " I'm often the same way! I drive my husband crazy sometimes because I am so damn literal and can't see the forest through the trees. LOL! I know what you mean about the word salicylate. I think that is our worst issue and the hardest to deal with. Well we will figure all of this out eventually, right? We just gotta hang in there. K in Dayton, Ohio Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!) Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of June 2007 and are struggling to find tolerated foods) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Hello I have a question for you... How did you realise your kids have salicylate problems? My daughter has been on the diet 5 months and sometimes she does things I can not connect to anything. I hope it's not because of this, since you said it's such a big problem. Thanks for any information Ximena Kuykendall wrote: > > > > Thanks for the clarification. My Aspie self finds it hard to read between the lines sometimes. Sorry for all your trouble. Hope it works out for you. We would love to find a good doctor for my son who is versed in the dietary interventions, but there is no on in hundrends of miles of here. I'll have to go slowly and convince his pediatrician and then there will be at least one sympethetic doc in town. My husband is beginning to hate the word salicylate. It is such a horrible issue here also. They add to my son's spaciness, odd behaviors, hyperactivity and tics (really bad). > > Bonita I had to laugh at this, " My Aspie self finds it hard to read between the lines sometimes. " I'm often the same way! I drive my husband crazy sometimes because I am so damn literal and can't see the forest through the trees. LOL! I know what you mean about the word salicylate. I think that is our worst issue and the hardest to deal with. Well we will figure all of this out eventually, right? We just gotta hang in there. K in Dayton, Ohio Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload, adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!) Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools, yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of June 2007 and are struggling to find tolerated foods) --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Hi <<I keep trying to follow the > recommended stages on pecanbread, but there isn't much in stage two > that is very substantial as far as carb content goes. I'm also afraid> to try anything stage two given our poor success with stage one> fruits. (homemade pear sauce also caused a return of loose stools).>> You may do okay with cooked peeled ripe peaches, ripe avocado. Just start with a small amount to see if it is tolerated. > Once normal poops return, should I be trying to add in more veggies > and just skip fruits for a while? >> You could try adding in veggies first if they seem to be tolerated better. <<Or should I wait for stage one > fruits to be tolerated before moving onto stage two stuff?>> No. You may do better with some of the foods in the later stages. Did you try homemade applesauce? The stages is a just a general guide to help with the general progression of foods. <<It isn't healthy to eat so few food choices for so long is it? How > long can we stay on nothing but meat, eggs, fat/butter/oils, winter > squash, carrots, and zucchini? It has been 3 weeks now. :-( I hope the> banana turns out okay for him and we will be able to at least add that> back. >> If it is only for a short period of time it should be okay. My doctors ran a complete panel after I had been on the diet for three months and were amazed at how good everything was - all blood work, electrolytes etc.. was perfect. This was eating a fairly basic diet. Considering how ill I had been preSCD they expected it to be pretty bad. Once the stools cleared up and I began to absornb nutrients my body became more efficient at absorbing what it needed. If you are still concerned you could consider starting a multi until there is more variety tolerated. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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