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Carol Said: " I am very concerned for you and troubled by your recent spate of

posts about Kiki. What concerns me is that you praise SCD to the roof and when

things don't go well for you speak about giving up. Is this giving up

SCD for Kiki, for you, for the family? Am I correct that the mito is a

completely separate issue? If so does it do harm to keep on with SCD? What other

foods would you give her to get in more calories? never mind your loyalty, you

must do what is best for your girl!.......You have fought so hard, come so far,

contributed so much and won the hearts of the entire list serve............You

are very much in my thoughts and are a brave and caring person. "

Dear List serves, and those who I have won the hearts over,

Mitochondrial disease affects myself, daughter and son. I now know why this is

why are list of problems was so long. www.umdf.org<http://www.umdf.org/>. This

is the case with mito people. Autism and digestion issues are just one part of

it. Due to mitochondrial disease, at this time we are going to be experimenting

with things that are not SCD legal. In the last weeks I have been going through

much turmoil around this. I am not giving into cravings of candy and

cake...this is not what my family will be eating.

I Have reread Dr. Haas's book, have reviewed everything in Elaine's archives,

and have come to the conclusion that this is the best option. AS many know, WE

have done FANATICAL SCD for a year and a half, prior to this we where Starch and

sugar free for over a year, just not " SCD fanatical " , so some do not count it.

Regardless, I say that this has been 2 and one half years for us, healing and

having much success....but we are at a wall and a cross roads.

The results that we have had are so note worthy I am writing a book (not to help

others, but to tell our story), and have committed to helping others often in

the last year, because I was so impressed by SCD TM.

Yet, we are ready to take the plunge into the unknown, to see if we can some how

get to the next level of bringing up our quality of life even a bit more. Dr.

Haas, and even Elaine said that after a while on SCD this might be possible. So

we will see. With mitochondrial disease we are dealing with the unknown.

The latest cherry on the almond cakes is that our son has recently shown early

warning that he could be loosing vision in his left eye due to Mitochondrial

disease (just one year ago his vision was normal). It is frightening to me,

that my son could go blind, and that my daughter might die. My daughter has yet

to sleep through the night due to metabolic disorder and hunger, eating 300+

calories a day, and summer heat threatens to dehydrate her often...I am ragged

and full of worry. It is obvious that this condition has stood undiagnosed for

generations in my family. Many before us have died young from mito

complications, but did not know it, and many have gone blind and deaf in my

family tree. We are lucky to know the name of this " family " monster.

We have come to conclusion that it is time to try something new. What is

suggested is not SCD legal. With the United Mitochondrial Foundations

suggestions, it could blow up in our face, or good things could result. I do

not know. One thing is for certain, anything we do will be built on the

FOUNDATION of SCDiet TM. WE will never, ever eat the Sadiet again. Yet...we

will be altering it so much, I will have to call it " Kiki's diet " and will no

longer be following strict guidelines in the BTVC book.

Some act as if I have now become a " trader " , and I do not feel welcomed to SCD

anymore. When in reality, I am doing what is best for my family....even if I

crawl back to SCD intro....... if this does not work for us.

Helping out on the serve, and teaching those who need it " fanatical SCD " has

been a God send to me, because it has distracted me from my troubles. This year

has not been easy. Receiving the hundreds of " thank yous " for " talking too

much " and pouring out my soul to show that others that SCD works....has been the

best thing that has happened to me during this crises.

Yet, now I do not know if I am welcomed to continue to help...if we are no

longer " fanatical " SCD. I know in the past that Pecan Bread has hired

moderators that don't even practice SCD themselves, doing it just for their

children. I was never hired...I just volunteered. I do not know If this would

put me in this category or not. I would not confuse anyone with talk about

" illegal " suggestions. Nor talk about our experiment with straying from SCD, or

confuse others with " Kiki's diet " . I will assume, until told otherwise to fly

the SCD TM coup.

It is up to others response today, if I will continue to volunteer on the serves

or not. I have truly enjoyed helping others to receive the returned health that

SCD has granted my family. Feel free to contact me at:

ajbunce@... if I do not respond on the serves.

For those who are new to SCD, and have read this....give it your all....do it

" fanatically " and see. It is truly amazing where we are today compared to when

we had but gut bugs. I never lied about the successes we had. Recently, when

I saw my daughters recent CDSA that was normal...and biopsy and EGD that showed

her intestines healed...I had only ONE thing to thank. 100% SCD convictions.

For some of us SCD is for a life time, for others it might not be. WE all have

a journey...one thing is for certain...if what we are about to do doesn't

work.....the family of yaks will be back to 100% SCD convictions!!

Please pray for us. Mitochondrial conditions can be progressive. It is like we

are constantly taming the Monster within...and this is for life...and NOTHING is

certain. Until stem cell research is allowed to progress....there is NO CURE

for us....and people like us. So when the time comes...make your vote to stop

one of the CAUSES for autism and much suffering. What a journey!

Sincerely, Antoinette and family of Five Silly Yaks.

My favorite quotes:

" To be nobody but yourself in a world that is doing its best to make you

everyone else, is to fight the hardest battle anyone can fight. " E E Cummings

" Be the change you want to see in the world " Mohandas Gandhi

" The important thing is never to stop questioning. "

-Albert Einstein

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Antionette,

I will say a prayer for you and your silly yaks. Thank you for your

email in July 2006 that led The Bond Family to the scd.

I believe the scd is just the beginning of a journey for my family.

Thank you and God Bless,

Cathy

Mom to celicas ,

P.S. help as much as you want..but take care of yourself and your

family first...that's my opinion

>

> Carol Said: " I am very concerned for you and troubled by your

recent spate of posts about Kiki. What concerns me is that you praise

SCD to the roof and when things don't go well for you speak

about giving up. Is this giving up SCD for Kiki, for you, for the

family? Am I correct that the mito is a completely separate issue? If

so does it do harm to keep on with SCD? What other foods would you

give her to get in more calories? never mind your loyalty, you must

do what is best for your girl!.......You have fought so hard, come so

far, contributed so much and won the hearts of the entire list

serve............You are very much in my thoughts and are a brave and

caring person. "

>

> Dear List serves, and those who I have won the hearts over,

>

> Mitochondrial disease affects myself, daughter and son. I now

know why this is why are list of problems was so long.

www.umdf.org<http://www.umdf.org/>. This is the case with mito

people. Autism and digestion issues are just one part of it. Due to

mitochondrial disease, at this time we are going to be experimenting

with things that are not SCD legal. In the last weeks I have been

going through much turmoil around this. I am not giving into

cravings of candy and cake...this is not what my family will be

eating.

>

> I Have reread Dr. Haas's book, have reviewed everything in Elaine's

archives, and have come to the conclusion that this is the best

option. AS many know, WE have done FANATICAL SCD for a year and a

half, prior to this we where Starch and sugar free for over a year,

just not " SCD fanatical " , so some do not count it. Regardless, I

say that this has been 2 and one half years for us, healing and

having much success....but we are at a wall and a cross roads.

>

> The results that we have had are so note worthy I am writing a book

(not to help others, but to tell our story), and have committed to

helping others often in the last year, because I was so impressed by

SCD TM.

>

> Yet, we are ready to take the plunge into the unknown, to see if we

can some how get to the next level of bringing up our quality of life

even a bit more. Dr. Haas, and even Elaine said that after a while

on SCD this might be possible. So we will see. With mitochondrial

disease we are dealing with the unknown.

>

> The latest cherry on the almond cakes is that our son has recently

shown early warning that he could be loosing vision in his left eye

due to Mitochondrial disease (just one year ago his vision was

normal). It is frightening to me, that my son could go blind, and

that my daughter might die. My daughter has yet to sleep through the

night due to metabolic disorder and hunger, eating 300+ calories a

day, and summer heat threatens to dehydrate her often...I am ragged

and full of worry. It is obvious that this condition has stood

undiagnosed for generations in my family. Many before us have died

young from mito complications, but did not know it, and many have

gone blind and deaf in my family tree. We are lucky to know the name

of this " family " monster.

>

> We have come to conclusion that it is time to try something new.

What is suggested is not SCD legal. With the United Mitochondrial

Foundations suggestions, it could blow up in our face, or good things

could result. I do not know. One thing is for certain, anything we

do will be built on the FOUNDATION of SCDiet TM. WE will never, ever

eat the Sadiet again. Yet...we will be altering it so much, I will

have to call it " Kiki's diet " and will no longer be following strict

guidelines in the BTVC book.

>

> Some act as if I have now become a " trader " , and I do not feel

welcomed to SCD anymore. When in reality, I am doing what is best

for my family....even if I crawl back to SCD intro....... if this

does not work for us.

>

> Helping out on the serve, and teaching those who need it " fanatical

SCD " has been a God send to me, because it has distracted me from my

troubles. This year has not been easy. Receiving the hundreds

of " thank yous " for " talking too much " and pouring out my soul to

show that others that SCD works....has been the best thing that has

happened to me during this crises.

>

> Yet, now I do not know if I am welcomed to continue to help...if we

are no longer " fanatical " SCD. I know in the past that Pecan Bread

has hired moderators that don't even practice SCD themselves, doing

it just for their children. I was never hired...I just

volunteered. I do not know If this would put me in this category or

not. I would not confuse anyone with talk about " illegal "

suggestions. Nor talk about our experiment with straying from SCD,

or confuse others with " Kiki's diet " . I will assume, until told

otherwise to fly the SCD TM coup.

>

> It is up to others response today, if I will continue to volunteer

on the serves or not. I have truly enjoyed helping others to receive

the returned health that SCD has granted my family. Feel free to

contact me at: ajbunce@... if I do not respond on

the serves.

>

> For those who are new to SCD, and have read this....give it your

all....do it " fanatically " and see. It is truly amazing where we are

today compared to when we had but gut bugs. I never lied about the

successes we had. Recently, when I saw my daughters recent CDSA

that was normal...and biopsy and EGD that showed her intestines

healed...I had only ONE thing to thank. 100% SCD convictions. For

some of us SCD is for a life time, for others it might not be. WE

all have a journey...one thing is for certain...if what we are about

to do doesn't work.....the family of yaks will be back to 100% SCD

convictions!!

>

> Please pray for us. Mitochondrial conditions can be progressive.

It is like we are constantly taming the Monster within...and this is

for life...and NOTHING is certain. Until stem cell research is

allowed to progress....there is NO CURE for us....and people like

us. So when the time comes...make your vote to stop one of the

CAUSES for autism and much suffering. What a journey!

>

>

> Sincerely, Antoinette and family of Five Silly Yaks.

>

> My favorite quotes:

>

> " To be nobody but yourself in a world that is doing its best to

make you

> everyone else, is to fight the hardest battle anyone can fight. " E

E Cummings

>

> " Be the change you want to see in the world " Mohandas Gandhi

>

> " The important thing is never to stop questioning. "

> -Albert Einstein

>

>

>

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I think you are thinking only in terms of diet, when the answer

might be found in another direction. Have you tried MB12?

>

> Carol Said: " I am very concerned for you and troubled by your

recent spate of posts about Kiki. What concerns me is that you

praise SCD to the roof and when things don't go well for

you speak about giving up. Is this giving up SCD for Kiki, for you,

for the family? Am I correct that the mito is a completely separate

issue? If so does it do harm to keep on with SCD? What other foods

would you give her to get in more calories? never mind your loyalty,

you must do what is best for your girl!.......You have fought so

hard, come so far, contributed so much and won the hearts of the

entire list serve............You are very much in my thoughts and

are a brave and caring person. "

>

> Dear List serves, and those who I have won the hearts over,

>

> Mitochondrial disease affects myself, daughter and son. I now

know why this is why are list of problems was so long.

www.umdf.org<http://www.umdf.org/>. This is the case with mito

people. Autism and digestion issues are just one part of it. Due

to mitochondrial disease, at this time we are going to be

experimenting with things that are not SCD legal. In the last weeks

I have been going through much turmoil around this. I am not giving

into cravings of candy and cake...this is not what my family will be

eating.

>

> I Have reread Dr. Haas's book, have reviewed everything in

Elaine's archives, and have come to the conclusion that this is the

best option. AS many know, WE have done FANATICAL SCD for a year

and a half, prior to this we where Starch and sugar free for over a

year, just not " SCD fanatical " , so some do not count it.

Regardless, I say that this has been 2 and one half years for us,

healing and having much success....but we are at a wall and a cross

roads.

>

> The results that we have had are so note worthy I am writing a

book (not to help others, but to tell our story), and have committed

to helping others often in the last year, because I was so impressed

by SCD TM.

>

> Yet, we are ready to take the plunge into the unknown, to see if

we can some how get to the next level of bringing up our quality of

life even a bit more. Dr. Haas, and even Elaine said that after a

while on SCD this might be possible. So we will see. With

mitochondrial disease we are dealing with the unknown.

>

> The latest cherry on the almond cakes is that our son has recently

shown early warning that he could be loosing vision in his left eye

due to Mitochondrial disease (just one year ago his vision was

normal). It is frightening to me, that my son could go blind, and

that my daughter might die. My daughter has yet to sleep through the

night due to metabolic disorder and hunger, eating 300+ calories a

day, and summer heat threatens to dehydrate her often...I am ragged

and full of worry. It is obvious that this condition has stood

undiagnosed for generations in my family. Many before us have died

young from mito complications, but did not know it, and many have

gone blind and deaf in my family tree. We are lucky to know the

name of this " family " monster.

>

> We have come to conclusion that it is time to try something new.

What is suggested is not SCD legal. With the United Mitochondrial

Foundations suggestions, it could blow up in our face, or good

things could result. I do not know. One thing is for certain,

anything we do will be built on the FOUNDATION of SCDiet TM. WE

will never, ever eat the Sadiet again. Yet...we will be altering it

so much, I will have to call it " Kiki's diet " and will no longer be

following strict guidelines in the BTVC book.

>

> Some act as if I have now become a " trader " , and I do not feel

welcomed to SCD anymore. When in reality, I am doing what is best

for my family....even if I crawl back to SCD intro....... if this

does not work for us.

>

> Helping out on the serve, and teaching those who need

it " fanatical SCD " has been a God send to me, because it has

distracted me from my troubles. This year has not been easy.

Receiving the hundreds of " thank yous " for " talking too much " and

pouring out my soul to show that others that SCD works....has been

the best thing that has happened to me during this crises.

>

> Yet, now I do not know if I am welcomed to continue to help...if

we are no longer " fanatical " SCD. I know in the past that Pecan

Bread has hired moderators that don't even practice SCD themselves,

doing it just for their children. I was never hired...I just

volunteered. I do not know If this would put me in this category

or not. I would not confuse anyone with talk about " illegal "

suggestions. Nor talk about our experiment with straying from SCD,

or confuse others with " Kiki's diet " . I will assume, until told

otherwise to fly the SCD TM coup.

>

> It is up to others response today, if I will continue to volunteer

on the serves or not. I have truly enjoyed helping others to

receive the returned health that SCD has granted my family. Feel

free to contact me at: ajbunce@... if I do not

respond on the serves.

>

> For those who are new to SCD, and have read this....give it your

all....do it " fanatically " and see. It is truly amazing where we

are today compared to when we had but gut bugs. I never lied about

the successes we had. Recently, when I saw my daughters recent

CDSA that was normal...and biopsy and EGD that showed her intestines

healed...I had only ONE thing to thank. 100% SCD convictions. For

some of us SCD is for a life time, for others it might not be. WE

all have a journey...one thing is for certain...if what we are about

to do doesn't work.....the family of yaks will be back to 100% SCD

convictions!!

>

> Please pray for us. Mitochondrial conditions can be progressive.

It is like we are constantly taming the Monster within...and this is

for life...and NOTHING is certain. Until stem cell research is

allowed to progress....there is NO CURE for us....and people like

us. So when the time comes...make your vote to stop one of the

CAUSES for autism and much suffering. What a journey!

>

>

> Sincerely, Antoinette and family of Five Silly Yaks.

>

> My favorite quotes:

>

> " To be nobody but yourself in a world that is doing its best to

make you

> everyone else, is to fight the hardest battle anyone can fight. " E

E Cummings

>

> " Be the change you want to see in the world " Mohandas Gandhi

>

> " The important thing is never to stop questioning. "

> -Albert Einstein

>

>

>

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Thanks Antoinette,

I loved the quotes. Your family is just one more reason

for me to vote for stem cell research. I've been lurking

for a very long time. (Mainly because I've been reading

'pecanbread' so much its been ruining my eyesight...)

One comment I wanted to add to your excellent post....

We started our boy out on the casein/glutin free diet,

and noticed positive changes. We kept track of all the

foods he was eating, and were sensitive to reactions he

was having, and noticed that soy was also getting him

'high.' So we cut soy out. (There went all the soy based

substitutions...) We were making progress, but still feeling

like we were up against another wall. We stumbled across

the 'pecanbread' site, and decided it was worth a try. (It

made sense to not only eliminate the addictive substances

that were leaking through, but also eliminate the cause of

the leaks as well. Gem is now a mainstreamed 2nd grader

in our local elementary school, and has been cf/gf scd for

almost five years. We cant believe the difference! We still

have a long way to go, and minor infractions still cause

reactions, so we know that this lifestyle will probably be for

a very long time.... but we have hope now, where as before

we couldn't really even communicate with him.

What am I trying to say? I guess its that we all need to

look at our children, and be sensitive to 'undesired' behavior,

keep a food log, and tailor the program to our kids.

I personally recommend gf/cf together with scd for our

kids, but each child has different issues. (For instance, our

Gen can do fine with one apple a day, but anything over

one and a half, and it comes out the other end in undigested

bite sized chunks. Luckily, it seems to go away over night.)

Our prayers are with you Antoinette. You are working with

a very complicated assortment of issues which all domino into

each other. Good Luck! -Allan.

away overnight without long term side effects.)

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Mimi, has asked me to stay! I a honored.

I am so glad that others are seeing the importance of Stem Cell

therapy. It truly could be the answers to many horrible diseases.

Until then we will just have to " hang in there " and do our best....all

of us.

Thank you for all the love and support I have received...on and off

serve. It is amazing how sweet everyone has been.

Antoinette and house of Silly Yaks!

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