Surgery and SCD, doctor´s assistance and Vit C?

[Guest guest]

HISTORY OF MY PROGRESS: I have been SCD since April. I started out

eating everything on the diet. I realized the end of May that that

wasn´t working. I started with intro but then progressed too rapidly

through. About 2 weeks ago started intro again and have stuck to

pretty much only meat. I began introducing very very cooked carrots

last week, very very cooked green beans and zucchini/cucumber. I have

had formed stools for about a week now (For the first time in years,

something halfway decent!) I tried banana cautiously two days ago, and

my stools became too mushy. So will avoid sweet stuff and fruit for a

little bit longer.

1. My obgyn thinks I might have endometriosis (I have dealt with

intense pain for circa 12 years now). I have an appointment for

laproscopy in a few weeks so they can confirm the diagnosis. (They

will just make a little incision in my belly-button and stick a camera

in.) My question: does anyone have experience with how surgery will

affect my progress? I will be under anesthesia and will probably have

pills (with starch no doubt) for a few days and maybe antibiotics...

not sure? If I keep on the intro diet with goat yogurt, will that

maybe minimize damage?

2. I made the mistake of mentioning to my mother-in-law that I haven´t

been able to tolerate fruits or vegetables lately. She really really

wants me to go to a doctor because she says something isn´t working

right if I cant eat fruit/veggies. Well, yes, that I am sure of.

Something isn´t right. I am just not sure how much help doctors

here can give me since SCD isn´t very well-known in Norway (where I

live). I CAN consult a doctor who knows a lot about food intolerances,

but in yall´s experience, would it be helpful to consult a specialist

or dietician who might be able to help me through this? I seem to be a

very clear-cut BTVC case with no health-effects of a bad gut except

for diarrhea when I eat something too advanced. Should I just stay the

course for a few more weeks and hope I can advance to fruits/veggies

soon? How long should I stay on intro/stage 1 before I seek help from

a doctor?

3. Vit C: It is difficult to find legal vit c in Norway. (especially

Vit C that my husband can tolerate since he seems to be intolerant to

citrus). If I still cant eat raw bananas and cooked apples, would it

be stupid to try to make some fresh veggie/fruit juice to get Vit C?

Anyone know what veggies or fruits would have lots of Vit C but

minimum acid?

Thanks so much!!

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'll let others answer your questions, but I just wanted to let you know there

is a very good book on sauna therapy I have read that explains why sauna is an

ideal treatment for endometriosis. If you get that diagnosis & are interested,

let me know and I'll send you the amazon link.

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wrote:

HISTORY OF MY PROGRESS: I have been SCD since April. I started out

eating everything on the diet. I realized the end of May that that

wasn´t working. I started with intro but then progressed too rapidly

through. About 2 weeks ago started intro again and have stuck to

pretty much only meat. I began introducing very very cooked carrots

last week, very very cooked green beans and zucchini/cucumber. I have

had formed stools for about a week now (For the first time in years,

something halfway decent!) I tried banana cautiously two days ago, and

my stools became too mushy. So will avoid sweet stuff and fruit for a

little bit longer.

1. My obgyn thinks I might have endometriosis (I have dealt with

intense pain for circa 12 years now). I have an appointment for

laproscopy in a few weeks so they can confirm the diagnosis. (They

will just make a little incision in my belly-button and stick a camera

in.) My question: does anyone have experience with how surgery will

affect my progress? I will be under anesthesia and will probably have

pills (with starch no doubt) for a few days and maybe antibiotics...

not sure? If I keep on the intro diet with goat yogurt, will that

maybe minimize damage?

2. I made the mistake of mentioning to my mother-in-law that I haven´t

been able to tolerate fruits or vegetables lately. She really really

wants me to go to a doctor because she says something isn´t working

right if I cant eat fruit/veggies. Well, yes, that I am sure of.

Something isn´t right. I am just not sure how much help doctors

here can give me since SCD isn´t very well-known in Norway (where I

live). I CAN consult a doctor who knows a lot about food intolerances,

but in yall´s experience, would it be helpful to consult a specialist

or dietician who might be able to help me through this? I seem to be a

very clear-cut BTVC case with no health-effects of a bad gut except

for diarrhea when I eat something too advanced. Should I just stay the

course for a few more weeks and hope I can advance to fruits/veggies

soon? How long should I stay on intro/stage 1 before I seek help from

a doctor?

3. Vit C: It is difficult to find legal vit c in Norway. (especially

Vit C that my husband can tolerate since he seems to be intolerant to

citrus). If I still cant eat raw bananas and cooked apples, would it

be stupid to try to make some fresh veggie/fruit juice to get Vit C?

Anyone know what veggies or fruits would have lots of Vit C but

minimum acid?

Thanks so much!!

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[Guest guest]

Hi I cured my endimetriosis by staying on this diet and taking primal

defense and colostrums.. I only now break it on special occasions, and when

I went back to the Dr. three months later, she said your cured, what did you

do, I told her and she said I’m very proud of you, and I have been pain free

for 4 yrs. Now…Funny she never told me about a diet, I Learned this from an

attendant at Whole Foods health food store, when I asked the dr. about this

she said she couldn’t tell me because diets are considered alternative, can

you imagine., hope this helps…

Corinne

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From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Rob or Sunseri

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:28 AM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: Surgery and SCD, doctor´s assistance and Vit C?

Hi ,

I'll let others answer your questions, but I just wanted to let you know

there is a very good book on sauna therapy I have read that explains why

sauna is an ideal treatment for endometriosis. If you get that diagnosis &

are interested, let me know and I'll send you the amazon link.

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<kosovokelly@ <mailto:kosovokelly%40gmail.com> gmail.com> wrote:

HISTORY OF MY PROGRESS: I have been SCD since April. I started out

eating everything on the diet. I realized the end of May that that

wasn´t working. I started with intro but then progressed too rapidly

through. About 2 weeks ago started intro again and have stuck to

pretty much only meat. I began introducing very very cooked carrots

last week, very very cooked green beans and zucchini/cucumber. I have

had formed stools for about a week now (For the first time in years,

something halfway decent!) I tried banana cautiously two days ago, and

my stools became too mushy. So will avoid sweet stuff and fruit for a

little bit longer.

1. My obgyn thinks I might have endometriosis (I have dealt with

intense pain for circa 12 years now). I have an appointment for

laproscopy in a few weeks so they can confirm the diagnosis. (They

will just make a little incision in my belly-button and stick a camera

in.) My question: does anyone have experience with how surgery will

affect my progress? I will be under anesthesia and will probably have

pills (with starch no doubt) for a few days and maybe antibiotics...

not sure? If I keep on the intro diet with goat yogurt, will that

maybe minimize damage?

2. I made the mistake of mentioning to my mother-in-law that I haven´t

been able to tolerate fruits or vegetables lately. She really really

wants me to go to a doctor because she says something isn´t working

right if I cant eat fruit/veggies. Well, yes, that I am sure of.

Something isn´t right. I am just not sure how much help doctors

here can give me since SCD isn´t very well-known in Norway (where I

live). I CAN consult a doctor who knows a lot about food intolerances,

but in yall´s experience, would it be helpful to consult a specialist

or dietician who might be able to help me through this? I seem to be a

very clear-cut BTVC case with no health-effects of a bad gut except

for diarrhea when I eat something too advanced. Should I just stay the

course for a few more weeks and hope I can advance to fruits/veggies

soon? How long should I stay on intro/stage 1 before I seek help from

a doctor?

3. Vit C: It is difficult to find legal vit c in Norway. (especially

Vit C that my husband can tolerate since he seems to be intolerant to

citrus). If I still cant eat raw bananas and cooked apples, would it

be stupid to try to make some fresh veggie/fruit juice to get Vit C?

Anyone know what veggies or fruits would have lots of Vit C but

minimum acid?

Thanks so much!!

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[Guest guest]

A week or two ago, I began to notice that I am not experiencing the

same endometrial symptoms as I did 3-6 months ago. I was wondering if

it was possible to cure endometriosis with SCD. Thus, I want to have

the laproscopi to prove that I indeed have endometriosis... then I

hope diet will cure it. And if my Endo. clears up, then I can have

this silly hormonal IUD removed. I dont really love having

plastic/nylon inside me. haha. A little too holistic/organic/eco-

loving.

Thanks so much for the advice and confirmation regarding endo!

Anyone had any experience with how anesthesia and antibiotics

affected them while on SCD? Any juice ideas?

Thanks!

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>

> Hi I cured my endimetriosis by staying on this diet and taking

primal

> defense and colostrums.. I only now break it on special occasions,

and when

> I went back to the Dr. three months later, she said your cured,

what did you

> do, I told her and she said I'm very proud of you, and I have been

pain free

> for 4 yrs. Now…Funny she never told me about a diet, I Learned this

from an

> attendant at Whole Foods health food store, when I asked the dr.

about this

> she said she couldn't tell me because diets are considered

alternative, can

> you imagine., hope this helps…

>

>

>

> Corinne

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

<<...I began introducing very very cooked carrots

> last week, very very cooked green beans and zucchini/cucumber. I

have

> had formed stools for about a week now (For the first time in years,

> something halfway decent!) ...

1. My obgyn thinks I might have endometriosis (I have dealt with

> intense pain for circa 12 years now). I have an appointment for

> laproscopy in a few weeks so they can confirm the diagnosis. (They

> will just make a little incision in my belly-button and stick a

camera> in.) My question: does anyone have experience with how

surgery will> affect my progress?>>

Constipation is not uncommon after surgery. Anaesthesia/meds used

can trigger this. Increased fluids and legal sources of fiber

(fruits and veggies) may help if it happens to you.

<<I will be under anesthesia and will probably have> pills (with

starch no doubt) for a few days and maybe antibiotics...

> not sure? If I keep on the intro diet with goat yogurt, will that

> maybe minimize damage?>>

If you have to take antibiotics, taking legal yogurt and/or

probiotics (some people do both) between doses of antibiotics, may

help with the GI upset that often accompanies antibiotics.

It is imortant to take the antibiotics in between doses as the

antibiotics can kill the good bacteria. S. boulardii is lauded as a

great help against the diarrhea that can occur with antibiotics.

Since it is a good yeast the antibiotics don't harm it and the S.

boulardii prevents strong harmful microbes from overgrowing. You can

take S. boulardii at the same time as antibiotics.

I have found S. boulardii very helpful for me and keep some on hand

in case I ever *have* to take antibiotics again.

<<2. I made the mistake of mentioning to my mother-in-law that I

haven´t> been able to tolerate fruits or vegetables lately. She

really really> wants me to go to a doctor because she says something

isn´t working> right if I cant eat fruit/veggies. Well, yes, that I

am sure of.> Something isn´t right. I am just not sure how much

help doctors> here can give me since SCD isn´t very well-known in

Norway (where I> live). I CAN consult a doctor who knows a lot about

food intolerances,> but in yall´s experience, would it be helpful to

consult a specialist> or dietician who might be able to help me

through this?>>

If they are versed in SCD they may be helpful. If they are open

minded enough to consider SCD they may be able to help. I think that

you are already seeing positive results since you reported your first

solid stool in years (Yay!!) - so it sounds as if you are on the

right path. It may just mean you need more time for your body to

heal to be able to tolerate fruits.

Do you have any yeast symptoms? Thrush, itchy rashes, vaginal yeast

infections etc.. Yeast overgrowth is pretty common with hormonal

imbalances.

PreSCD I was diagnosed with cervical dysplaysia. The specialist was

very concerned because it seemed to be progressing rapidly. I asked

about on the SCD lists for some advice and was advised to have my B

vitamin levels checked (blood draw). My B levels were out of

balance. When I fixed it (by diet alone) I started having regular

periods and my next appointment showed that the dysplaysia had

dissapeared. My specialist was amazed. Both her and her surgical

nurse took all the info about the diet.

I have also had Polycystic Ovarian Disease (PCOD) for years. My

symptoms included very irregular periods, cystic acne and

infertility. With the diet I now have regular periods. It may sound

funny to some people but I am grateful to finally have a " monthly

visitor " .

<< I seem to be a> very clear-cut BTVC case with no health-effects of

a bad gut except> for diarrhea when I eat something too advanced.

Should I just stay the> course for a few more weeks and hope I can

advance to fruits/veggies> soon? How long should I stay on

intro/stage 1 before I seek help from> a doctor? >>

As above since you have had your first good solid bm in years it

sounds as if you are on the right path. It just may take some time

before you can tolerate fruits.

<< 3. Vit C: It is difficult to find legal vit c in Norway.

(especially> Vit C that my husband can tolerate since he seems to be

intolerant to > citrus).>>

Here is some info Elaine posted years ago about vitamin C:

" Re: Legal Supplements List 2003-09-14 14:49:00 <Elaine

Gottschall>

If buffered Vitamin C is in the form of calcium ascorbate and sodium

ascorbate, it is LEGAL. What is not legal is time released vitamins.

Buffered Vitamin C (as above) can prevent some people, especially the

Irish,from getting tummy aches with unbuffered Vitamin C. " from

http://lyris.dundee.net/read/messages?id=238522#238522

<< If I still cant eat raw bananas and cooked apples, would it> be

stupid to try to make some fresh veggie/fruit juice to get Vit C?>>

It is okay to begin juiced fruits and veggies after the intro as long

as it is diluted. If still having symptoms make sure the pulp is

removed. I have a cheap juicer and when I began juicing I put the

homemade juice through a coffee filter. Since you have been having

problems with fruits it may be best to start with only a small amount

of (raw) juice from peeled fruit and have it heavily diluted. If you

tolerate it okay gradually reduce the dilution.

<< Anyone know what veggies or fruits would have lots of Vit C but

> minimum acid?>>

Red fuji apples, red delicious and redwell apples are low acid and

have some vit C. Cantaloupe.

Do you have a problem with fruit acids?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and