Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hi any chance anyone could advise on the current understanding of aerobic bacterial dysbiosis. e.g. Klebsiella, citrobacter etc. From what I have read these have an LPS coating that is difficult to get past to kill them but there are a few points that I am unsure about 1. Why does this happen in the first place, high starch diet, post antibiotic infection, or immune dysfunction caused by something like mercury. Maybe all of the above but why does everyone not get this if its diet? I could barely walk up stairs when eating illegals. 2. Treatment, some say antibiotics or natural herbs, some say SCD, some chelate mercury. For myself I tried the SCD diet for a yr and symptoms improved a lot but still had all the nasty reactions to illegals and I had low energy, constipation and endocrine issues. I then chelated for a yr and a half and constipation cleared and energy improved in the first 3 months, 3 months later I tolerated sulpur foods, 3 months after that rice and now anything like potatoes. Remaining issues are cow based dairy and gluten grains. I still think I have this issue with aerobic bacteria but I am trying to work out what is the best approach. Does more mercury need to be removed, if the immune system worked properly after this would I be like everyone else and the body would control levels. From what I have read these are all normal inhabitants anyway but for some up us we get over growths Any thoughts, advice Thanks Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 What about high pressure hyperbaric oxygen therapy? Meleah LPS & Aerobic bacteria Hi any chance anyone could advise on the current understanding of aerobic bacterial dysbiosis. e.g. Klebsiella, citrobacter etc. From what I have read these have an LPS coating that is difficult to get past to kill them but there are a few points that I am unsure about 1. Why does this happen in the first place, high starch diet, post antibiotic infection, or immune dysfunction caused by something like mercury. Maybe all of the above but why does everyone not get this if its diet? I could barely walk up stairs when eating illegals. 2. Treatment, some say antibiotics or natural herbs, some say SCD, some chelate mercury. For myself I tried the SCD diet for a yr and symptoms improved a lot but still had all the nasty reactions to illegals and I had low energy, constipation and endocrine issues. I then chelated for a yr and a half and constipation cleared and energy improved in the first 3 months, 3 months later I tolerated sulpur foods, 3 months after that rice and now anything like potatoes. Remaining issues are cow based dairy and gluten grains. I still think I have this issue with aerobic bacteria but I am trying to work out what is the best approach. Does more mercury need to be removed, if the immune system worked properly after this would I be like everyone else and the body would control levels. From what I have read these are all normal inhabitants anyway but for some up us we get over growths Any thoughts, advice Thanks Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Phil, I hope that the following webpages are helpful. http://www.microbialinfluence.com/ One explanation for why symptoms of mercury are so similar to the symptoms of LPS could be the fact that mercury inhibits carbohydrate absorption in the gut. Unabsorbed food does not get into the blood stream quickly; when it remains in the gut, it becomes available as a food supply for bacteria. Consequently, gram negative bacteria multiply and produce LPS. [3] This raises a strong suspicion that some of the symptoms commonly attributed to mercury could be directly caused by LPS and only indirectly by mercury. LPS also renders toxins from Candida Albicans more damaging.[4] The poisonous effects of LPS are so potent that they produce symptoms of autism even without the help of Candida Albicans and heavy metals. LPS and detoxification: http://www.microbialinfluence.com/det.html LPS and heavy metals: http://www.microbialinfluence.com/HG.html LPS and the Immune System: http://www.microbialinfluence.com/Immune.html LPS and ASD and SCD: http://www.microbialinfluence.com/SCD.html I think that the best way to kill those bacteria would be to go on a diet that eliminates unabsorbed carbs. And be fanatical. Even a small amount of LPS can be damaging for individual who have a strong reaction to LPS. Mimi > Hi any chance anyone could advise on the current understanding of > aerobic bacterial dysbiosis. e.g. Klebsiella, citrobacter etc. From > what I have read these have an LPS coating that is difficult to get > past to kill them but there are a few points that I am unsure about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Thanks for the post that information is very interesting. I will keep an eye on that website I think its spot on. Phil > > Phil, > > I hope that the following webpages are helpful. > > http://www.microbialinfluence.com/ > > One explanation for why symptoms of mercury are so similar to the > symptoms of LPS could be the fact that mercury inhibits carbohydrate > absorption in the gut. Unabsorbed food does not get into the blood > stream quickly; when it remains in the gut, it becomes available as a > food supply for bacteria. Consequently, gram negative bacteria > multiply and produce LPS. [3] This raises a strong suspicion that some > of the symptoms commonly attributed to mercury could be directly > caused by LPS and only indirectly by mercury. > > LPS also renders toxins from Candida Albicans more damaging.[4] The > poisonous effects of LPS are so potent that they produce symptoms of > autism even without the help of Candida Albicans and heavy metals. > > LPS and detoxification: > http://www.microbialinfluence.com/det.html > > LPS and heavy metals: > http://www.microbialinfluence.com/HG.html > > LPS and the Immune System: > http://www.microbialinfluence.com/Immune.html > > LPS and ASD and SCD: > http://www.microbialinfluence.com/SCD.html > > I think that the best way to kill those bacteria would be to go on a > diet that eliminates unabsorbed carbs. And be fanatical. Even a small > amount of LPS can be damaging for individual who have a strong > reaction to LPS. > > Mimi > > Hi any chance anyone could advise on the current understanding of > > aerobic bacterial dysbiosis. e.g. Klebsiella, citrobacter etc. From > > what I have read these have an LPS coating that is difficult to get > > past to kill them but there are a few points that I am unsure about > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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